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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. Wizardman 01:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Ward (pitcher)

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As much as I hate to AfD those that have played a professional game of baseball, after getting a PROD tag I scoured old newspaper sources and was unable to find anything whatsoever on this person trying every combination I could think of. Even the game logs for September 1885 turn up empty to the point that I'm questioning if he ever played at all (he does but it took Peter Morris to find anything and even then it's only primary source stuff). Literally the only thing I found of his existence is the Courier-Journal on Sep. 20, 1885, but even then it's only a sentence and goes more on a tangent involving the far superior John Ward baseball player. Wizardman 00:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawing thanks to the finding of sources, not sure how you found some of those but happy to see it. Wizardman 01:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Providence Grays all-time roster. He has an entry at Baseball-reference.com for the time being which is good enough to prevent deletion. Looks like we're going to need a List of MLB players who don't meet NSPORTS. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 02:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per BX. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC, prong 5: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." This source (which doesn't even give a first name for pitcher "Ward") is not SIGCOV. The search is complicated by the fact that this player and John Montgomery Ward (sometimes referred to as "John Ward", e.g., here) were both pitchers for Providence in the 1880s. Cbl62 (talk) 02:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Further note: His death announcements include some further biographical details. See here, here and here. Cbl62 (talk) 02:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I expanded it a bit this morning, and given the difficulty of finding sources from the 1880s (for example, the Providence newspaper is not avaialable online from that era), I think the sourcing is now strong enough to keep under WP:NBASIC ("If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability."). Cbl62 (talk) 17:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes NBASIC per Cbl62. Literally no MLB player whose full name is known has ever been deleted in the 20-plus year history of Wikipedia (see also List of 19th-century Major League Baseball players with unidentified given names) WP:NSPORTS is just a guideline, not a policy. Baseball players were never a problem with NSPORTS. The baby (WP:NBASEBALL) was just thrown out with the bathwater (WP:NSPORTS2022). I think it's silly modern minor leaguers can get articles by passing GNG without ever actually playing in MLB and old-timers like this can get deleted. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep after expansion - a decent amount of news sources now. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 00:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 01:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uladzislau Palkhouski

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, has exactly the same competition results as Kalehanova (AfD below), so also doesn't meet NSKATE. Searching for sources under romanized and cyrillic names only turned up non-sigcov [1][2]. Toadspike [Talk] 12:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emiliya Kalehanova

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, does not meet NSKATE, web searches for romanized and cyrillic names did not turn up any secondary sources. Toadspike [Talk] 12:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Nom.Canary757 (talk) 15:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 01:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nelli Ioffe

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, does not meet NSKATE and could not find any sigcov with a quick web search. Toadspike [Talk] 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 22:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mansur Alavi

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Fails notability, I checked the refs, two of them are completely fake. and in other 3 he is just mentioned as the assistant coach of the national team and/or the para-table tennis junior team coach. that's far from being notable. Sports2021 (talk) 20:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete as per nom.
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Delete - YJC has some decent coverage but it's far from enough on its own. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zahra Alavi

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Fails notability, this is just one line of article and then throwing lots of not-really-related references to trick wikipedia. for example one of the sources is about District 8 Championships! (and not even the national youth championship) Sports2021 (talk) 20:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete as per nom.
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 08:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lalbiakzuala

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Some appearances in India's second league. Found no significant and independent coverage, though his name might be written in a number of different ways. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 04:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 10:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Hocquaux

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Subject does not appear to have the needed WP:SIGCOV from multiple secondary sources needed to meet the WP:GNG. The corresponding article in French is also similarly devoid of sources. Let'srun (talk) 01:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above.Canary757 (talk) 07:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Myriam Leuenberger

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete This skater's career does not justify a Wikipedia article. Also lacks significant coverage with what coverage there is consisting mostly of result lists.
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Delete, fails NSKATE. A search for sources at the Swiss newspaper archives [3] turned up mostly tournament result listings, along with non-sigcov [4][5][6]. Toadspike [Talk] 16:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of men's footballers with the most official appearances (including youth internationals & reserves)

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duplicate of the article List of men's footballers with the most official appearances, except it also goes against a consensus sought at that article to exclude youth football and non-competitive games. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 16:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. If consensus goes against your wishes, the solution is not to maintain two alternative lists. Geschichte (talk) 04:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I don't know why we can't maintain this list. It's not a problem that multiple lists can exist in parallel. Yet, this list is very complete and include some importants matchs, although there are not considered at pro level. Maybe, some of players of this list are less reliable (Carmona, Bastock for example) but globally the list is reliable. Kind regards (excuse my english, I'm french) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOGIROX (talk • contribs) 18:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete pointless WP:SPINOFF created by not liking consensus at the other page. Absolute nonsense to keep this. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:51, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The list is an expansion of the other list, and it is well-sourced. Kind regards, Lorry Gundersen (talk) 21:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There was a consensus reached on the original article to not include reserve team and youth team games, this was to align with the vast majority of sources which do not include such games. Creating a second list ignores the consensus which had been reached and creates the possibility of multiple parallel versions based on differing subjective interpretations. Football (unlike cricket and most US based sports) does not have a central statistical record which is why consensus and consistency is so important ColchesterSid (talk) 22:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delte - WP:POINTy spin-off which goes against all major sources in its scope (NB if by any chance it is kept, it should not have an ampersand in the title per MOS:AMPERSAND) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - agree entirely with ColchesterSid Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - as above, we do not create duplicate lists when we don't like consensus. Giant Snowman 13:01, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 01:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – We shouldn't include youth teams because those are less known than senior ones. Note to the "Keep" vote without signature: I don't meant to spread hatred, but if you excuse for your comment, I kindly encourage you not to reply on English WIkipedia. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per established consensus. CNC (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Corentin Rahier

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The one secondary source already in the article (source 2) combined with [[7]] and [[8]] appear to contain enough coverage of Rahier to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 01:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the 2017 Junior Worlds Field Guide: Ice Dance article is from a blog site run by a single person. As such it is most likely not deemed a reliable source per WP:SPORTBASIC. The other two sources look okay at a glance. Alvaldi (talk) 13:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch there. Let'srun (talk) 03:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hayden Jones

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Non-notable tennis player who fails to meet the requirements at WP:GNG and WP:NTENNIS. I am not finding enough sources that are independent of the subject and amount to significant coverage. Almost all of the references on this article are just routine match coverage. May just be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Adamtt9 (talk) 13:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete As per nom. Has not achieved anything worth having an article for. Only non-routine match report coverage is based primarily on his sister and notability is not inherited. Shrug02 (talk) 14:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Does not meet WP:NTENNIS and notability is not inherited from family members. May meet notability in the future should they succeed in their career, but certainly not yet.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 19:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ankur Malik

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This subject fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, the sources that mention him are poor and do not provide WP:SIGCOV. Nxcrypto Message 07:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Lack of significant coverage, fails WP:GNG. Robo^Cric Let's chat 11:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 12:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: All references fail WP:SIRS and so the article fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing close to significant coverage. Shrug02 (talk) 00:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Sikkim cricketers as a WP:ATD. AA (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 14:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morteza Khoshbakht

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Fails notability, this was deleted once but recreated with more or less the same thing. I have to repeat what I wrote first time. the article just has a bunch of refs without much to say, from what I found he is a former world youth/cadet (not junior) champion back in 1996 but that's not enough to make him notable. he never won anything in junior or senior level. Sports2021 (talk) 10:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail WP:GNG in ~~WP:NATH~~ WP:SPORTCRIT. No WP:RS and WP:IS for WP:V. QEnigma talk 15:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - coverage is entirely trivial in nature. Not even one example of significant coverage. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Midwin

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I can't find any extended discussion of this living person, or any distinction making her automatically notable. Databases record her having had a professional beach volleyball career; she has appeared once or twice in Playboy publications/websites; she ran for local office once. I reduced the article in this edit, removing some poor sources (a magazine search, a Getty images search, a brief TV segment via YouTube) and some unreferenced personal information, but I conclude that notability can't be demonstrated. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG under WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:NMODEL. QEnigma talk 14:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV of this BLP either from newspapers.com or multiple web searches. Let'srun (talk) 16:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of any significant coverage. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 20:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kheyrollah Ghahramani

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Fails notability, he probably won some youth medals but achieved nothing in major events in senior level. The article claims he won two silver at 2012 and 2013 Asian Senior Championship but that's not correct and he never even made it to those competitions. Sports2021 (talk) 01:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Not sure how much help it is, but this source suggests he did in fact have a silver at the Asian championships and a bronze at world championship. [9] Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately this source fails to mention these medals are in cadet level. this is his resume in UWW database. as I said he never won anything special in senior level. Sports2021 (talk) 10:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree with Sports2021, lacks notable accomplishments, in my opinion the subject fails notability. Lekkha Moun (talk) 08:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see no significant coverage and no achievements that would meet any SNG. Success in youth events is not sufficient for WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 04:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meisam Yarahmadi

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Fails notability. just being a coach in youth level in a non-Olympic sport is far from being notable. this looks like WP:COI. Sports2021 (talk) 01:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete None of the coverage is significant and independent. All of the references mention him as coach of national youth teams but only in the context of the team preparing for competitions, him announcing results, or competitors being invited to training camps. He is either being interviewed or mentioned in one sentence as the national junior team coach. That doesn't show WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 17:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no significant coverage, not wiki notable. Lekkha Moun (talk) 18:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Culwell

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this American soccer player. All I found was coverage from his high school career (1 and 2). JTtheOG (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Those newspapers only feature the person in images. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination and comments.Go4thProsper (talk) 17:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jenette Maitz

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Non-notable figure skater. Only competed in two competitions: 1st place (with no other challengers) at the Turkish Figure Skating Championships and 26th place (out of 27 teams, though the 27th team was technically a withdrawal) at the 2010 World Championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I did not see WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources. Only one result in Google Books which is likely a false positive (A History of Economic Thought, no online access), one result in Google Scholar which is a false positive, one result in Google News which is a one sentence mention. Eight mentions on Newspapers.com, but all are one sentence mentions on skating results or an obituary of a family member. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG.Canary757 (talk) 18:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unable to find the WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Deimantė Kizalaitė

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Non-notable figure skater. No senior-level international medals; no national championship gold medals. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Marginally successful junior career and nothing of note as a senior. Sources provided are just result lists and I cannot find any significant coverage of her.

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Comment: It appears the subject had some decent success as a junior, with somewhat substantial native language sources such as [[10]] and [[11]] appearing through a simple google search. Undecided about this one right now. Let'srun (talk) 01:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 19:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charis Fourkiotis

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His 46 minutes of professional football is, at best, a weak presumption of notability. My searches didn't yield any WP:SPORTBASIC coverage. Elassona News has an announcement about him which is only 2 sentences long. Larissa Net mentions him once. AELOle has a transfer announcement which is copied from his club's website. There is no good coverage in WP:RS as far as I can see. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no significant coverage in Greek media

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Delete. By the way I'm pretty sure Super League 2 stopped being fully professional after COVID. The league was expanded from 12 to a whopping 34 teams, and with diminutive match attendance in several arenas. Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 05:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 19:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timoleon Patronis

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Played 2 league matches and 1 cup match before disappearing from professional football. This stats stub gives no indication of passing WP:SPORTBASIC either. Sportsup contains a trivial mention of him in a list of players transferred out. Sigma Live and a few other sources contain a mention of a player of the same name who was the assistant manager of Panachaiki from 1971 to 1978 so clearly a different person (but possibly a relative) given the connection to the same club. In any case, there is no significant coverage of either Timoleon Patronis that I can find. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:04, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete – Article definitely fails WP:GNG with only one source provided that is a database. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kutay Eryoldaş

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The only thing approaching SIGCOV I found was this interview. JTtheOG (talk) 23:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Nesser

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This appears to be a borderline WP:NBIO case that falls just short of passing the criteria. The subject does have some of his own accomplishments in the realm of skateboarding, but the coverage seems insufficient by WP:SIGCOV standards. Source 1 is a passing mention of him in a list of names, source 2 is dead and I couldn't find an archive, source 3 is an interview so not independent, and the only other sources are dead links to what appears to be his defunct website. A WP:BEFORE search led me to minor coverage from skateboarding magazines, and more interviews and primary sources. This guy does appear closer to his own notability than the limited sourcing on this page would portend, but I couldn't find enough coverage of him in my BEFORE search to quite hit the threshold of WP:GNG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No credible secondary sourcing, doesn't meet WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 02:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: From ProQuest, I was able to find [[12]] but without more independent coverage there isn't enough here for the WP:GNG to be met. Let'srun (talk) 20:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. El Beeblerino ^{if you're not into the whole brevity thing} 22:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Geddes

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Can find a grand total of 1 article on this guy, and while it covers him in depth, it isn't really enough to qualify him as notable. Allan Nonymous (talk) 23:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DeleteASAP. ZERO sources. Does not meet WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 02:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A 5 race career with no wins. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 12:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vladyslav Pikhovych

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:15, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails notability. Also most of the article is unsourced and it is full of trivia such as him working on cruise ships and Holiday on Ice.

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 16:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrej Hanták

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Hanták played 392 minutes of professional league in 2012 before disappearing later that year. In terms of reliable secondary sources, the only coverage I found is a passing mention on Dnes24. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 22:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandria Riordan

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Prod was removed on technical grounds (article was ineligible for prods). Anyway, I can't find any sources, current referencing is terrible. Does not seem to meet WP:GNG, not all sportspeople are encyclopedic (notable). This is just poorly referenced fan piece of OR on a non-notable person. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this is the second time that this article has been created and I still can't see any evidence of WP:SIGCOV. The best that I can find is Am-Pol Eagle, if that is a reliable source. We would need more than one source, though. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject easily meets WP:SPORTBASIC with a couple dozen sentences of independent coverage here from The Am-Pol Eagle as well as a profile here from The Press of Atlantic City. JTtheOG (talk) 23:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The sources uncovered by JTtheOG appear to contain the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG as they provide in-depth coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 18:24, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, agreed with Spiderone that if the Am-Pol Eagle piece is the best we can find then GNG isn't met. The Press of Atlantic City article fails YOUNGATH, being a local interview with the subject when she was 12. JoelleJay (talk) 04:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not noteworthy and fails to meet significant coverage criteria.
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Juliana Cannarozzo

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. Deriannt (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not enough secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Subject easily meets WP:SPORTBASIC with a couple dozen sentences of independent coverage here, not including quotes of course, as well as a half-dozen sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: While it would be nice if there were more sources, the sources uncovered by JTtheOG contain the needed coverage to meet the WP:NBASIC as they provide in-depth coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's too bad this skater couldn't follow up that coverage with any meaningful results. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Normally, I'd Redirect this article as I favor ATD but this subject is not mentioned at Redirect target article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Severo Tiago

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Seems to fail notability guidelines

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Delete - fails NFOOTBALL. Deriannt (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NFOOTBALL has been removed from NSPORT. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - it'll be interesting to see if anyone has access to Portuguese newspapers in the 1920s as I'd be curious to see if this guy had WP:SIGCOV. Of course, if none can be found, I'm happy with deletion but I can't think of a time when we've deleted an international footballer for such a successful footballing country. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – No sources present for WP:V and no corresponding article on pt.wiki. If anyone finds new sources, I'll change the vote. Svartner (talk) 01:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A redirect to Portugal national football team results (1921–1939) might be a possibility. Geschichte (talk) 07:41, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Geschichte if offline sources even can't be found. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Star Mississippi 15:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Wilson (basketball)

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Prolific high school/college basketball player fails WP:NHOOPS. Page is an absolute mess and was likely created as promotional material by an WP:SPA. Novemberjazz 18:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:NHOOPS. --NoonIcarus (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a quick search found some references, more can be found more than likely given his collegiate career. Article needs cleanup, but deletion is not cleanup.Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 20:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Was a notable college basketball player. Passes WP:GNG with coverage such as Award is 'big deal' to Wilson, Speaking in tounges, Marcus Wilson is on quite a roll - so UE is, too, South Bend's own on call...while Wilson hopes for best and Numbers adding up to Evansville guard.Alvaldi (talk) 21:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I think he meets notability just enough, but the article itself is in desperate need of an overhaul as it’s badly written and full of puffery inflating his accomplishments. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 21:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He passes GNG. The article feels a bit promotional but the subject himself is notable. SportsGuy789 (talk) 22:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Problems with the article aside, the subject pretty easily passes GNG as a former conference player of the year. JTtheOG (talk) 22:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - He was notable as a star basketball player and refs on the article and in this discussion show it. The article seriously needs cleanup though. Looks like an IP refocused the article and deleted some refs in 2021, maybe Wilson himself. Rikster2 (talk) 12:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above, though agreed that the article needs major cleanup as it reads like a press conference, so an editor could go and blow it up and start over if necessary. Madeleine (talk) 20:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources already provided in this deletion discussion appear to be sufficient to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 21:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GNG. Issues with the article can be addressed by editing. Rlendog (talk) 16:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alessia Aureli

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Some coverage found, is only what amounts to rankings, subject of the deletion discussion is listed among others [13]. Nothing otherwise to suggest notability. Lack of sourcing isn't helping. Oaktree b (talk) 21:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete She does exist, but there is very little coverage of her. She had some minor success, but never won anything that would warrant notability, as the lack of WP:SIGCOV shows.

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmytro Ihnatenko

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail WP:GNG (WP:NSPORT / WP:NSKATE) criteria. No WP:RS and WP:IS. QEnigma talk 11:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This article does not have valid secondary sources to prove WP:GNG. TitCrisse (talk) 02:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasia Galyeta

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail WP:GNG (WP:NSPORT / WP:NSKATE) criteria. No WP:RS and WP:IS. QEnigma talk 11:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasiia Yalova

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail WP:GNG (WP:NSPORT / WP:NSKATE) criteria. No WP:RS and WP:IS. QEnigma talk 11:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Fails WP:NSKATE and has no references. The Ukrainian article (uk:Ялова Анастасія Русланівна) is similarly unsourced, so we can't use that. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 15:11, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Balint Miklos

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DELETE ASAP. Zero sourcing. Does not at all prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails notability and significant coverage criterias.

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Matei

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Just barely misses out on WP:NSKATE, but more importantly I could not find any coverage in secondary sources. Toadspike [Talk] 14:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per Toadspike. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Papua New Guinea international footballers. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lee-Navu Faunt

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this Papua New Guinean footballer to meet WP:GNG, mostly trivial mentions in match reports and squad listings. A possible redirect target is List of Papua New Guinea international footballers, although the list has not been updated to include his name. JTtheOG (talk) 07:01, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Papua New Guinea international footballers per nom. - Lâm (talk) 07:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – I don't follow sports in the country, but agree with the nomination. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 21:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. I was the notability tagger, and notability is not achieved. Geschichte (talk) 08:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 05:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fabio De Sousa

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this American soccer player. JTtheOG (talk) 04:57, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination. You forget to mention that this is a common birth name in Portugese-speaking countries that namesakes may be found, unless you've searched in combination with the person's name and clubs. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. That is probably the only way to do a proper WP:BEFORE. JTtheOG (talk) 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Astrid Mangi

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I was able to find some additional references I think it can be maintained. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Geschichte (talk) 14:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your reference only supported the results, which were never in question, and did nothing to establish any sort of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And actually, upon examination, it’s a wiki-mirror. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Absence of any IRS sources with SIGCOV, as required by GNG and SPORTCRIT. JoelleJay (talk) 20:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Daniel, the keep opinion was invalid as it belonged to a notorius block evader. Geschichte (talk) 14:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Víctor Bustamante

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: As the nom knows, WP:NSPORTS is not relevant. WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC is what matters. 1, 2, 3, 4. JTtheOG (talk) 05:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources provided in this discussion appear to have enough coverage for the WP:GNG to be met. Let'srun (talk) 18:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: On the grounds of the sources provided here, cite no 1, 2, and 3/4 passes WP:SIGCOV and WP:SECONDARY. WP:RS passes for 1 (fashion magazine), 2 (news), and no idea about 3/4 (same website). ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 13:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of NFL quarterbacks by teams beaten

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Does not pass WP:NLIST from my perspective, and comes across as WP:Fancruft/trivia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Article literally copies off one source to present the information, and this is usually only a headline superlative rather than something really followed closely. Nate • (chatter) 17:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes NLIST. [14][15][16][17][18] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems to be a copy of a single source, and is arbitrarily cut off at "all teams but four". PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Clarityfiend's merge proposal also sounds very reasonable to me, so I'd be cool with either. No opinion on how much the list should be trimmed if we ultimately go with merge. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep if renamed List of NFL quarterbacks who have beaten every team in the league and trimmed. (Also remove the criterion "beaten every team he faced at least once", which is just made up.) It satisfies NLIST, but only for every team, not every team but n (n=1, 2, 3, etc.). This is a rare achievement which requires a QB to go to another team and then beat his former team. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Alternatively merge to List of NFL individual records#Quarterback wins, but just the half dozen QBs who have done it all. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I'd support a trim and merge. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I personally don't believe the list should be trimmed to just those six players. The sources discuss a lot more players than just those six. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to trim list, it should include the six who beat all teams plus the qbs who stayed with one team throughout their career and beat all other teams (Bradshaw, Elway, ect.) Spparky (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the sources that support this addition? I don't see any. (The closest I can find is that Mahomes is the youngest to beat all 31 other teams, and that's a different kettle of fish.) Otherwise, this is just an unwarranted stretching of the boundary. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trim and merge to List of NFL individual records#Quarterback wins. Specifically, I would add a bullet for those retired QBs who have beaten all but one team if they spent their entire career with one team. This would remove Ken Stabler, Alex Smith and Kerry Collins because they played for multiple teams. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kerry Collins is listed in three of the sources above though. Here is an excerpt: "Oddly, one other quarterback, Kerry Collins, beat 31 teams, but the team Collins never beat, the Dolphins, wasn’t one of the teams he played for. Collins actually started against the Dolphins four times while playing for four different teams, but lost all four games." ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I find it more notable that a QB spent their entire career with one team and beat every other team in the league (31/31) than being traded and still not beating every team in the league (31/32). Collins wouldn't be on the list of "all but one" if he had never been traded since he never beat the Dolphins. In the end, that will be a decision to be made by the closing administrator. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 20:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may find it more WP:interesting, but that's not what Wikipedia is based on. Sources! Where are your sources? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If sources were the only criterion, then we would have hundreds of times more articles than we do now. I was featured in my hometown newspapers covering my Eagle Scout project, so should I have a Wikipedia article? The answer is no, because I do not meet WP:GNG despite the fact I can provide sources. At what point do we stop adding names to these lists? Your argument, to me, seems more along the lines of WP:ILIKEIT than putting forward any policy-based or guideline-based argument. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your example, an article in a local paper about a local person/event, does not qualifiy as a Wikipedial source. You are confusing verifiability with notability. [Pet peeve alert: Why do you and others keep typing "::*:", "*::", etc., when the asterisk does nothing unless it is at the end?] Clarityfiend (talk) 09:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clarityfiend: You asked about my sources, so I provided a hypothetical to show that I can find sources for someone not notable (I specifically said I do not meet GNG). In reference to the pet peeve, I'm not typing the colons and asterisks. That is Wikipedia's "Reply" function probably just adding a colon to the end of whatever indenting text already exists. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports writers have written about QBs with wins against all teams as a group (I'm stretching just to include the two who beat the 28 then-existing teams), as demonstrated by WikiOriginal-9. None have written about all but one, with or without weird qualifiers/conditions, as a group (sorry, Collins). Clarityfiend (talk) 04:26, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This has enough discussion in secondary sources to allow us to have an article on it. The issues above all seem like editing issues, not notability issues. SportingFlyer T·C 20:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trim and merge per Clarityfiend. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:FANCRUFT WP:NOTSTATS. Excessive niche statscruft sourced by a single outlet. Ajf773 (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sourcing currently in the article is an editing issue, there are plenty of different sources above. SportingFlyer T·C 04:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Four of five of WikiOriginal-9's sources above discuss these "32-win" QBs as a group, so NLIST is satisfied. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, there is only one source currently in the article, and it's a database website, but this is clearly notable. The editing just needs to be cleaned up. Other sources include [19] [20] SportingFlyer T·C 04:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The souces provided in this discussion, particularly the CBS Sports, NBC Sports, and Sporting News articles each cover the list as a grouping for WP:NLIST to be met. Let'srun (talk) 20:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I frankly don't think "Quarterback beat all teams but three" (or four) merits mention in an encyclopedia at all. I would merge everything above two into quarterback records. However, given the size of List of NFL individual records, and the key role played by quarterbacks in the game, I would split out a separate List of NFL quarterback records. BD2412 T 20:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is an arbitrary cutoff not supported by the sportswriters. Guys who are at 31 are mentioned, if at all, merely in passing and not as a group. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:47, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Clarityfiend: It is certainly less arbitrary than the current situation, with up to four teams listed. For reasons set forth in the discussion above, it makes sense to list those who have only failed to defeat one team because that will include those who spent their entire career with the one team that was therefore not defeated. It is no burden on the encyclopedia to list those who have defeated all but two teams just the same. BD2412 T 18:51, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete In my view, the fact that there is a sports news article every time someone newly meets one of this article's criteria isn't enough to establish WP:NLIST; they all just fall under WP:ROUTINE. Obscure statistics frequently appear in ROUTINE references; we can still take an intellectual assessment of the arbitrariness or cruftiness of the list and decide that it's not worthy of encyclopedic record. Aspirex (talk) 06:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ROUTINE is a guideline connected to events, which doesn't apply here. Let'srun (talk) 20:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Wedding announcements, sports scores, crime logs, and other items that tend to get an exemption from newsworthiness discussions should be considered routine." Coverage about statistical marks being broken in the moment can very much be interpreted as falling under sports scores routine. Aspirex (talk) 21:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're kidding, right? How can quarterback win records ever be construed as sports scores? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also want to make sure to note this is clearly, clearly not WP:ROUTINE. It's a list of statistics which have been covered by many different outlets. SportingFlyer T·C 01:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 01:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Viktoriya Adiyeva

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Disputed PROD. Fails significant coverage criteria. Editor who disputed the PROD said there are lots of sources but did not add anything to the article and I can not find anything that would amount to significant coverage. Shrug02 (talk) 20:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I can only find Fandom sites and wiki mirrors, none of which are notable. The one source used in the article is a listing only. I don't find enough sourcing to use for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 19:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Absolutely non-notable. MisterWizzy (talk) 11:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see what @Flibirigit: (deproder, searching on Google returns multiple Russian and Kazakhstan-language sources available to expand her biography) found before deleting this three-time Asian Games gold medalist and Olympian. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11 me too but as I said above, they made the statement, added nothing to the article and I cannot find the content they refer to. If I could've then I would've added it myself. They have also been totally silent in the nine days since I AFDed this article. Shrug02 (talk) 20:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Like the others in this discussion, I couldn't find anything that could be used to show notability for this BLP. Without WP:SIGCOV, this subject does not meet the WP:GNG. Participating in the Olympics or any other competition is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. Let'srun (talk) 20:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to the Russian Wikipedia she was Master of Sports of International Class of the Republic of Kazakhstan [ru], a title which appears to be the highest honor for Kazakh sportspeople, which arguably would pass WP:ANYBIO. She was also vice captain of the national team and seems to have been considered one of the most prominent players on it. Unless there's evidence that some Kazakh newspaper was searched from her time period, I'd lean towards keeping. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm missing something there, there isn't a cited source for that claim. Let'srun (talk) 15:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I wonder if a redirect could be possible at all. There seems to be a chance that she is notable but nobody has come forward with any Russian language sources that may or may not exist. But I'm not sure what that target would be? Adamtt9 (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I've found several sources that imply Adiyeva/Mussatayeva was a prominent member of the Kazakh national team and appears to have been a player with whom the public was familiar (1, 2, 3, 4). Her career with Aisulu Almaty – Kazakhstan's most successful women's club team – spanned well over a decade. Despite her apparent importance as a figure in Kazakh women's hockey, I've had the same difficulty as other respondents with finding substantial coverage. The transliteration of her name poses a hurdle for sourcing in English, as I’ve encountered a broad number of transliterations: Viktoriya/Viktoria Adyeva/Adiyeva/Adyyeva Mussatayeva/Musatayeva/Musataeva. In Cyrillic, her married surname is also spelled differently between Russian and Kazakh – Russian Виктория Мусатаева versus Kazakh Виктория Мұсатаева (source). I haven’t found a reliable source for her maiden name in Kazakh, which is another limiting factor.
The Russian Wikipedia article at ru:Мусатаева, Виктория Назымовна is more content-rich than the English language article but its sourcing is also poor.
All this to say, I feel this is very likely a person for whom substantial coverage exists in Kazakh and Russian printed sources but I conceede that, without those sources, she is unlikely to pass GNG. Spitzmauskc (talk) 18:11, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I had also tried to search the archives of Kazakh newspapers (sports.kz, kazpravda) using her Cyrillic name and didn't come across anything more substantial. If actual coverage can be found this page can easily be recreated, but at this moment it totally fails SPORTCRIT. JoelleJay (talk) 02:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Meaney (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - decent Irish coverage available - RTÉ (a little routine but still a headline in a national broadcaster's site indicating national prominence), KCLR (similar to before but not quite as notable as RTÉ), a circa 1k word piece entirely about Meaney and his career in The Kildare Nationalist and another piece of coverage in The Nationalist (Carlow version so separate from the prior newspaper). Of these the Kildare Nationalist piece is strongest and combined the sources indicate regional notability, imv. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Sources in the first comment from Ireland are enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glenn Moody

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Multiple articles on glenn moody northernecho and glenn moody gazettelive searches on google plus glenn moody theguardian is a strong one tooCanary757 (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
five references added to the article now from three different sources.Canary757 (talk) 07:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per references added to article. Further coverage can be found in The Mirror (admittedly no consensus for reliability but the coverage indicates notability), Evening Gazette and a bit in the darts publication Dartn.de. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 04:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fabian Roosenbrand

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have found a few things for this one. dartfreakz [21], this [22], ~~wegdamnieuws [23]~~, aavisie [24], almelonineuws[25]. Nothing spectacular but some notability. I will have a closer look at these later before nominating a vote and will also consider any feedback.Canary757 (talk) 06:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These sources look minor so I am not opposing deletion unless better ones are found.Canary757 (talk) 12:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete don't think the coverage above meets WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Toadspike [Talk] 11:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Ross (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This from Stuff is clear sigcov. Further coverage from the Dominion Post and again in same indicate he's of at least regional notability. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. As above from Ser!, there is significant coverage in local media, and I have edited the article to include these references plus one other I found. Ewhite31 (talk) 10:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, appears SPORTBASIC is met.Canary757 (talk) 18:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus here among participants to Keep this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Humphrey

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Draftify as I am struggling to find much of any in-depth coverage of the subject, failing WP:GNG. Despite the WP:REFBOMB, everything that comes up is basic coverage of either his college commitment (or de-commitment) or his transfer to another school, with some quotes and stats sprinkled in. This is what we would call "routine transactional announcements" in other sports. JTtheOG (talk) 04:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. There appears be coverage with real depth. E.g., (1) part one/part two, (2) part one/part two, and (3) this. Cbl62 (talk) 14:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (I was pinged by the article creator, but I was already planning on participating). Cbl62's coverage looks sufficient. Also, I don't buy the "routine" argument – if someone receives SIGCOV for e.g. transferring, then that's SIGCOV in accordance with GNG, especially if it's national-level coverage like we have here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:55, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I personally don't think he should be notable enough for Wikipedia - the sources presented are all essentially "he transferred, then he didn't" and are arguably primary, and I only see one source which goes into how he played as opposed to where he signed and it's local, but the sources above go into enough detail about him that it's hard to argue they don't pass GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 20:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not enough secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:GNG with the coverage shown by Cbl62 and the one already in the article. Please note that the locality of the sources have no relevance to the subjects notability. Alvaldi (talk) 14:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Coverage from Cbl62 appears to be sufficient enough to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 20:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Possibly Moved: We're starting to see many many articles likes this.. Where many are half finished of players transferring around.. After seeing a few pages and this one included, it reminded me of the New York Yankees minor league players page. My suggestion is make a new page list for these players similar to the Yankee example.Yeahimaboss413 (talk) 14:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also want to thank you guys for motivating me in creating a page for players..

My sandbox is also an example, of what we should possibly do. In these instances. User:Yeahimaboss413/sandbox67

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Keep per Cbl62. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trina Pratt

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~~~: Unable to find the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Please ping me if SIGCOV is found. Let'srun (talk) 15:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC)~~ [reply]
Keep: As per usual, nom fails to address independent coverage of the subject, who meets WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC at the very least. A quick search yields more than decent coverage in The Pueblo Chieftain and SkateToday, for starters. JTtheOG (talk) 22:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep with the coverage provided above, this clearly meets the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 03:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aissa Bouaraguia

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:37, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. Deriannt (talk) 18:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Netta Schreiber

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Believe she does satisfy notability. Actually not sure what the issue is about the article. MaskedSinger (talk) 16:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The second source in the article (the only secondary source currently present in the article) appears to be a WP:YOUNGATH failure and I couldn't find anything better. Let'srun (talk) 01:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: That keep vote above doesn't actually cite any evidence for their claim of supposed notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As per nom.
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The result was delete‎. Happy to provide on request, but no indication of input forthcoming. Star Mississippi 03:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diana Pervushkina

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The result was delete‎. No indication input of any kind is forthcoming. Ineligible, but may be requested via Refund if someone is interested. Star Mississippi 02:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Svitlana Pylypenko

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:34, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. No indication input of any kind is forthcoming. Ineligible, but may be requested via Refund if someone is interested. Star Mississippi 02:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ellie Kawamura

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The result was delete‎. Ineligible for soft deletion, but no indication further input is forthcoming. Star Mississippi 02:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fabrizio Pedrazzini

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The result was keep‎. Beeblebrox ^Beebletalks 01:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pál Székely

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Another one who looks notable in Hungary. Found this [26] in Magyar Nemzet, This [27] [] in Nemzeti Sport. In Blikk newspaper there is is this [28] I've only looked at a few Hungarian papers so there may be a lot more. Any thoughts?Canary757 (talk) 07:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep per above sources identified by Canary757. That Magyar Nemzet article is a brilliant example of sigcov (and even has other outlets reporting on parts of it). Further coverage can be found in Index.hu, M4sport.hu, 24.hu, further coverage in Index.hu, HVG.hu and Origo.hu. Trouble is that googling "Pal Székely" rarely returns any coverage because of Hungarian naming customs which put the name as "Székely Pal", but googling the latter or "Székely Penge" finds some very strong coverage indicating he's nationally notable in Hungary. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 09:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Nemzet article has only a paragraph of coverage; the rest is interview quotes which do not count towards GNG as primary and non-independent. The first three other sources also appear to be just Q&A interviews. Can you find some non-interview coverage of him? JoelleJay (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious about the status of interviews; when I check GNG, the reference to secondary sources is that they need "at least one secondary source" (which in this situation would be the latter Index article) and then says sources "should" be secondary. Then when I check WP:PRIMARY it says "(depending on context) interviews", which links me to WP:Reliable_sources#News organizations, in which there is... nothing listed about the aforementioned interviews. Is the inference here that any sort of interview content, regardless of how widespread or what source it's in, is entirely worthless and bunk in determining notability? ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The general consensus has been that secondary content from the interviewer, e.g. background on the interviewee prepared before the interview, can count towards GNG if it's SIGCOV, but anything coming from the interviewee (either directly in quotes or lightly paraphrased by the interviewer) is not independent or secondary. I'd say the Index article is verging on a routine recap (personally I would classify it as fully routine, as it's just briefly reporting his performance in one tournament). JoelleJay (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks for the clarification. Well, I'm finding it hard, owing to my lack of Hungarian (I'm presuming there may be more hidden mentions such as the "Székely Palnak" ones that wouldn't initially come up on search) to find further sources. I'll just hope that whoever closes this will note the various Hungarian national sporting outlets that've gone to the bother of interviewing the subject in detail; even if not counted in the rule-based notability check, it's at least some sort of background showing this isn't just some complete unnotable. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Will give a more expanded response when I have more time but German website dartn.de [29] which has a nice bio about him describes him as one of the most famous players in Eastern Europe (via google translate).Canary757 (talk) 07:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Despite his work, a search yields significant independent coverage and has encyclopedic support. Tgvarrt (talk) 23:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

János Végső

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Relist~~ I think this one warrants more investigation. Significant coverage in the Hungarian Sports newspaper Nemzeti Sport such as [30] and [31]. Also some here on Blikk website.[32] A google search for his name and nemzeti sport shows multiple strong hits so may well be notable in Hungary. Canary757 (talk) 07:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above coverage (though the Nemzeti Sport links seem to be the same one), with even more coverage available in Hungarian language websites - Hatharom, Nemzeti Sport and interviewed in part in Bunteto. Interestingly, Nemzeti Sport in an article specifies that there was "another final success, but not from János"... that's gotta be at least some sign of notability that they've gotta specifically mention it wasn't him, right? Anyway, further research would benefit from using the Hungarian-language versions of his name - either "Végső János" or "Végső Jánosnak". ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:07, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Good extra source addedCanary757 (talk) 13:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. El Beeblerino ^{if you're not into the whole brevity thing} 23:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Giacomo Milano

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Deleted article which was recently recreated with no significant improvements. Clear fail of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 23:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, El Beeblerino ^{if you're not into the whole brevity thing} 23:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing there are multiple Italian Ruby players up here made be look below WP:SPORTCRIT to see if there was a Rugby specific guideline. Seeing that there is WP:NRODEO but no Rugby guideline. Makes me think WP could use a Rubgy guideline. I do not have enough subject matter knowledge to want to attempt that though Czarking0 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Basically all primary sources in the sense that they are published by the institutions he plays for. Does not seem to be notable enough in other respects. Googling his name only returns basic player stats. I also tried Italian google news and he does not come up. Czarking0 (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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