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[edit]- List of Olympic medalists in figure skating by age (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All unsourced. Also, why do we even have this? Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete for failing WP:NLIST. At best, the youngest and maybe oldest ever get some attention, but not every single skater. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 alleged Paris blackout (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a non-notable internet phenomenon/hoax. The blackout didn't happen (as the factchecking references attest) so all we are left with is a number of non-WP:RS sites and YouTube making bizarre claims that failed to reach WP:SIGCOV. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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- delete nonnotable non-event with no expecxted sustained notability. --Altenmann >talk 17:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- On the contraire, since it was during the Olympics and in Paris, no less, people will remember this.Jeanette the Transbian Martin (dime?) 00:00 24 August, 2024 (UTC}
- delete seems to be just some random internet hoax with no significant and respectable sources Pothos144 (talk) 20:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are articles here about other hoaxes, and Reuters and Fox are respectable sources.Jeanette Your Favorite lover Martin (dime?) 00:00 24 August, 2024 (UTC}
- Delete If this happened EDF would've known and had statements about it immediately, and it would've been worldwide breaking news. Probably from the same oddball YouTube fandom that thinks anytime color bars appear on a channel it's a signal intrusion, along with Christofacist trash like source #5 (read WP:YOUTUBE @JeanetteMartin:); learn news literacy and about off buttons. Nate • (chatter) 21:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, Fox and Reuters and MSNBC, I believe (MSNBC), covered it so regardless that the EDF did not, its still a notable event. Also, look at my background. I am a transgender woman who has been here editing for 21 years. Nothing further from some of these You Tube right wing channels (although I am myself a Christian). Jeanette Mami Sexy Martin (dime?) 00:00 24 August, 2024 (UTC}
- Comment Nah, no mainstream sources, no article. This is fanfiction that if it were on a kid's channel article would get a hoax block, and even if there were outages, they were after midnight, mostly unnoticed, and short-lived, and likely standard overnight maintenance. Last time I checked, religious spirits have no experience controlling a power grid. Nate • (chatter) 18:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, Fox and Reuters and MSNBC, I believe (MSNBC), covered it so regardless that the EDF did not, its still a notable event. Also, look at my background. I am a transgender woman who has been here editing for 21 years. Nothing further from some of these You Tube right wing channels (although I am myself a Christian). Jeanette Mami Sexy Martin (dime?) 00:00 24 August, 2024 (UTC}
- Merge with 2024 Summer Olympics: could be a brief mention near the bottom of the article. Interesting piece of folklore around the event, but nothing notable by itself. Oaktree b (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is the preferred outcome.Jeanette Redirect me! Martin (dime?) 00:00 24 August, 2024 (UTC}
- Delete nonnotable non-event. RJFJR (talk) 19:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kimia Alizadeh vs Nahid Kiani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article attempts to be a WP:SPINOFF from Taekwondo at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 57 kg but nothing that is mentioned here cannot be there. (CC) Tbhotch™ 19:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep I've added content and WP:RS that supports the article. This article is specific to not only an event within Taekwondo at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 57 kg, but also the prior tournament, the background and events surrounding the bout including the censorship, as well as reactions. Having all of this information placed within the Taekwondo at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 57 kg article is unbefitting and WP:UNDUE.--Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 21:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep The sources available are enough to have notability. As with any highly trending event at the Olympics, they should have their own article. Ahri Boy (talk) 02:01, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete Unnecessary WP:CFORK. The match is not worthy of a standalone page and the info can be easily be added in the header of [Taekwondo at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 57 kg]. Lekkha Moun (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- As stated above, it would be WP:UNDUE to redirect/delete it as the article isn't just about the match, but also includes the prior match, the reactions, aftermath, censorship, etc., and the article is noteworthy with WP:RS.--Ronnnaldo7 (talk) 19:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as an unnecessary WP:CFORK, all of the content can be covered adequately elsewhere. Of the text in the article:
- The fact that it's a rematch of a 2020 match is somewhat trivial
Kiani won the silver medal, the latter being the first for an Iranian woman at the Olympics, surpassing Alizadeh's 2016 bronze feat
can be mentioned at her article and/or Iran at the 2024 Summer OlympicsWhile Kiani competed for the Iranian team, Alizadeh competed for the Bulgarian team after having represented the Refugee Olympic Team at the 2020 Summer Olympics, and Iran at the 2016 Summer Olympics where she became the first Iranian female medalist at the Olympics.
can be covered in Kiani's article and the relevant "Team X at the Y Summer Olympics" articles.Alizadeh became Bulgaria's first-ever taekwondo competitor at the Olympics, and won Bulgaria's first medal in Olympic taekwondo
can be mentioned at Bulgaria at the 2024 Summer Olympics.- "Aftermath" section can be mentioned in either the event article, this can be added to Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics.
In summary, none of this content needs a separate spinoff article for one match. And there is no one sensible merge target. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Excellent summation by Joseph2302. I do believe this does not deserve its own WP article as is seems like WP:NOTNEWS. I do think there's material there that can be put into existing articles--especially since they're both individually notable. I'm just not sure where the best fit is for all the information. Papaursa (talk) 14:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Michal Pšenko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2002 Winter Olympics#Nordic combined because I could not find any significant coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Leaning Keep per the extensive German article with several offline sources which appear to give several pages of coverage to him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- The German article mostly provides database and not significant coverage in reliable sources. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 10:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did you look at Enzyklopädie des Skispringens which provides pages of coverage to him? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- It would be appreciated if there are exact links to there. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 10:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did you look at Enzyklopädie des Skispringens which provides pages of coverage to him? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- The German article mostly provides database and not significant coverage in reliable sources. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 10:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Participated in four Nordic Ski World Championships. In 1999 he participated in both ski jumping and combined. That's pretty unusual, however he usually placed lowly as an "also-ran". Geschichte (talk) 13:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Bruno Font (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. All I could find was mentions in routine match coverage. Dougal18 (talk) 13:33, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: per nom. No significant coverage. C F A 💬 18:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. There does seem to be some coverage, e.g. 1 2 3 4. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding enough coverage about the subject to meet the WP:GNG. What has been brought to the discussion thus far is more about other things besides the BLP or not have depth otherwise, and a search for additional coverage failed to uncover anything worthwhile. Let'srun (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Rolandas Jasevičius (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. PROD was contested but unable to locate independent significant coverage of this individual. C679 06:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Seems to have been well-known in Lithuania, which Lithuanian media did you search in your WP:BEFORE? I found the basics in an Lithuanian Sports Encyclopedia, coverage of his European bronze in 2004 (career highlight = not WP:ROUTINE) and WP:SUSTAINED coverage of an assault later in 2004 that halted his career. Geschichte (talk) 07:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, per Geschichte. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comments/Question Competing at the Olympics is no longer sufficient to show WP notability, especially when you're badly beaten in the opening round (54-21). A bronze medal at the European championships doesn't meet any SNG and his semi-final bout was stopped in the second round of the fight (where he lost to someone who lost in the second round of the Olympics). The coverage of his bronze medal was just coverage of the results of the Lithuanian boxers in the event. His short listing in the Lithuanian Sports Encyclopedia is more of a database entry than an article. Being a crime victim doesn't make him WP notable, either. Since he fails WP:NOLY and WP:NBOX, he needs to meet WP:GNG. I don't read Lithuanian, but I can use Google translate. Can someone please point me to the coverage that shows he meets WP:GNG? Thank you. Papaursa (talk) 22:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. We have a difference of opinion on the quality of the sourcing. Do we have any boxing fans that can weigh in?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The crime part isn't supposed to make him notable as a victim, but is highly significant and relevant to his career trajectory. WP:SUSTAINED seems unquestionably met in my opinion. Specific details of results, first and second round etc. aren't necessarily relevant for the discussion. WP:NOLY is irrelevant since it states "Significant coverage is likely to exist for...", but by discussing specific coverage found by someone, we are past that. Geschichte (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I'm confused. WP:NOLY says significant coverage is likely to exist for Olympic medalists, which he is not. Why are we "well past..discussing" meeting WP:GNG? It's also not clear to me that competing in the Olympics and later getting mugged is what sustained coverage is about. It seems to me like either an SNG or the GNG needs to be met. I'm not saying the GNG can't be met, just that I haven't seen convincing evidence it is. That's why I didn't vote to delete, because I feel there may well be significant coverage. People with potentially promising careers who are killed or severely injured in auto accidents or crimes don't become notable because of their misfortune. I'm not trying to be difficult, I really just want to understand the prevailing thinking. Papaursa (talk) 19:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Any uninvolved thoughts?
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