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BoardGameGeek game publisher ID
identifier for a publisher on the BoardGameGeek website

Applicable "stated in" value	BoardGameGeek (Q887528)
Has quality	numeric identifier (Q93868746)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	publishing company (Q2085381)
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example	BRIO (Q669137) → 389 Mantikore-Verlag (Q41863826) → 12845 White Wizard Games (Q24910983) → 26542
Source	https://www.boardgamegeek.com/
Formatter URL	https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgamepublisher/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P6160 (Q59137255)
See also	BoardGameGeek designer ID (P3505), BoardGameGeek ID (P2339), Luding game publisher ID (P6162)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 618 Main statement 610 98.7% of uses Qualifier 3 0.5% of uses Reference 5 0.8% of uses
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Type “publishing company (Q2085381)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “publishing company (Q2085381)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Type Q2085381, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “[1-9]\d*”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Format, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6160#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: de:Vorlage:BoardGameGeek Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Not every publisher on BoardGameGeek is a board game publishing company

I noticed that someone had been adding the claim "board game publishing company OF table top role-playing game" to various publishers who are represented on Board Game Geek but are not board game publishing companies. At first I couldn't figure out why they were adding untrue statements but traced it to this property's constraints. This constraint is a fundamental misunderstanding of board game geek's publisher coverage. While board game publishing companies may also publish role-playing games, plenty of role-playing game companies publish only tabletop role-playing games and are still listed there because BGG not only has data for board games but for wargames, role-playing games, etc. (edited to add: For example, Games Workshop, makers of the Warhammer 40,000 game is their publisher ID number 26, which clearly indicates that they have long included other-than-board-game companies.)

I would recommend that either (1) this property loosen the constraint to all publishers or (2) that the entity "role-playing game publisher" be created as a subclass of publisher and included below. The first would be simpler. People's eagerness to include this property on everyone represented in BGG is leading to false statements. Let's get it straightened out! Ruthbrarian (talk) 01:26, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

A further note upon reflection the next morning: of the two options I proposed last night, I think the "all" publishers one is the better choice, since role-playing game publisher would still not cover someone like Games Workshop, or someone who publishes only card games, and this would lead to a diffusion of niche publisher types. So my recommendation is to loosen the constraint to publisher in recognition of the fact that "BoardGameGeek" is not a truth claim that all publishers/games listed there are board games. It's simply a website name and many kinds of game publisher may be included. Ruthbrarian (talk) 12:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

-- I would like to support option (2), the creation of entity "tabletop role-playing game publisher" (I added "tabletop" to make a difference with computer RPG, MMORPG, etc.).Pmartinolli (talk) 19 August 2019 (UTC).

-- Here to support option (1). Loosening the constraint seems like the better alternative. Scottythered (talk) 19 August 2019 (UTC).