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Publius Enigma

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The Publius Enigma was a riddle created to market the 1994 Pink Floyd album The Division Bell. It received some coverage in reliable sources, which is summarised in the Division Bell article under "Release and promotion". However, there isn't enough material out there to justify a standalone article, and much of the current content is uncited (and I can't find coverage of it in reliable sources). I think this should be redirected to The Division Bell per WP:NOPAGE. Popcornfud (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/redirect to The Division Bell#Release and promotion per nomination. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It was a standalone article for many years and satisfies the GNG. Notability is WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Brain Damage Magazine, at least in its original print incarnation, is a reliable source for Pink Floyd related topics. It's also not very collaborative to delete cited content right before submitting something for deletion... Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 19:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted content that was cited to unreliable sources. This was an attempt to improve the article before nominating it for deletion, not to make it worse. Brain Damage is a fanzine and can't be used as a source on Wikipedia, nor can it be used as evidence of notability. Popcornfud (talk) 19:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added two RS... Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 20:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That does look better now. I'm a bit concerned about the remaining citations to faroutmagazine - that's not an actual magazine, it's just a web site, and the article cited looks very much like it was just paraphrasing the WP page as it stood at the time. The fanzine sources would be better for this, if it's just a direct quote of what a band member said in an interview. (I'm not implying that the quotes are inaccurate, just that we should give an actual source rather than citogenesis.) Adam Sampson (talk) 17:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Division Bell is already fairly long and the sources in this article look ok after the recent improvement made by editors at Afd. Ben Azura (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Galactic Theme

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Fails WP:NALBUM. Sources are announcements of the album or unreliable. CNMall41 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: While the sources are reliable, the pieces are unreliable. I can't rely on a news piece that lacks a byline. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only source without byline in the article is the New Music Weekly and that's how the website is. I've added more refs by the way. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Refs added. Like Vanderwaal said, the sources are reliable. Also, the album has received multiple reviews from reliable publications per WP:NALBUM. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Namumula

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Fails WP:NSONG. Seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON. HueMan1 (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Music, and Philippines. HueMan1 (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(article creator) Keep: There are significant sources of this article that covers of this subject: Billboard Philippines and ABS-CBN News, ~~Although~~ Although, i cite the social media of Maki (Maki's post on Instagram about his new song) but I supported the social media post with with reliable sources just I mentioned earlier and there is a stub-article to expand the article.

Also, Namumula is set to release on Friday (August 30, 2024), I don't think this is a WP:TOOSOON, the days are numbered until the song is released. Royiswariii (talk) 12:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets WP:NSONG with sources presented by Royuswari. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 01:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It definitely fails WP:NSONG, a song not yet officially released could not be significantly covered by media, the existing “coverages” are only marketing maneuvers. WP:NOTPROMO, WP:NOTNEWS. Nihonjinatny (talk) 14:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wavey

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Main artists do not have their own Wikipedia article. No significant chart positions. Fails WP:NSONG. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 18:19, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Also fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage. Wibbit23 (talk) 19:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: If it charted #1 on Dance Club Songs there likely is enough coverage to meet NSONG, but I can't find much. There's this and a few listicle entries but not much else. C F A 💬 21:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I had the same thought, it charted at #1, but there were no sources that show significant coverage, perhaps just a single event. The sources are not enough to establish notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When It's Time

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Completely fails WP:GNG. My initial WP:BEFORE searches didn't turn up much except for mentions in announcements for the 30th anniversary edition of Dookie, and trivial name drops in reviews about the play itself. Charting once is not enough to demonstrate notability. It also doesn't help that there isn't a single reliable source in use in the article at present. I propose a redirect to American Idiot: The Original Broadway Cast Recording λ NegativeMP1 17:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect: I really love this song, but I unfortunately must agree with the nomination for the reasons listed. I also took a look for sources, and couldn't find anything in particular. This is a pretty big shame though, considering the song (or demos of it) has been released four times (Dookie's 30th anniversary, Nimrod's 25th, and in two versions on the cast recording). The only other alternative I can think of would be to hold until the release of the 20th anniversary re-release for American Idiot to see if anything is on the new documentary being made about the album's creation, but given that "When It's Time" isn't even on its tracklist, I think it's safe to call for the redirect as of now. Leafy46 (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dynasty (Miia song)

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Fails WP:NSONG. A redirect to Miia_(singer)#Singles would not be a bad idea. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Non-notable song; no coverage in independent, reliable sources. Prof.PMarini (talk) 09:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Edge (Andy Duguid album)

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Fails WP:NALBUM DonaldD23 talk to me 23:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I didn't find any coverage or reviews in reliable sources. I'm not sure if Andy Duguid himself is even notable. toweli (talk) 02:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(I'm not opposed to a redirect.) toweli (talk) 17:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Can someone please enlighten me why articles need to be deleted in the first place? This is a 4KB article with fewer than 40 edits containing a 89KB work of art. Will WP become better-off without it? Speaking of this "notability" principle: media normally ignores less known artists, thus even the best/better albums in terms of music, style, arrangement, etc. may be ignored completely because their artists are not promoted enough. WP contains a ton of info on Calvin Harris whose music is absolutely bland electronic beats with no soul, finesse, nothing and who is going to be completely forgotten 10 years from now. Yet, "notable", right? There are literally hundreds of thousands of article in need of improvement and you're chasing articles to delete? Whoa. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 09:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your requested explanation: Deleting articles about things that don't qualify for them is longstanding Wikipedia policy that the user community has developed for years and years. See WP:NALBUM for this debate and WP:N for general principles. For Calvin Harris, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. For other articles that need improvement, this is a volunteer community waiting for someone like you to improve them. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Andy Duguid: found zero evidence of notability. Redirecting to artist is standard if the artist has an article, and if said artist is also non-notable as toweli suggests then it can be challenged in a separate AfD. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Andy Duguid - I can find no professional reviews or other specific coverage about the album in the reliable media sources. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: WP:NOTDATABASE: “Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information”, it should not be a discography database such as Discogs, Musicbrainz, etc. WP:GNG should always be followed. When the album doesn’t meet the required notability, it shouldn’t have a standalone page. No significant coverage of the album by reliable independent sources could be found. Nihonjinatny (talk) 09:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the page of the albums creator Andy Duguid; I see no reason, and cannot find sufficient evidence, this album needs a standalone article. ResonantDis_tortion 19:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole and Natalie

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Fails WP:NALBUM DonaldD23 talk to me 02:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning keep. In the span of a few minutes, I was able to find reviews from Pitchfork and Fact (UK magazine) ([1], [2]). And there are probably more reviews than that, might look later. toweli (talk) 02:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but Clean Up - The article needs to be improved by adding sources and removing a lot of fancruft, but it received a few reliable reviews in Pitchfork (found by previous voter) and occasional hip-hop publications (e.g. [3]). ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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