Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 4, 2022.
Kerotan MGS3
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Kerotan MGS3 → Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article. Dominicmgm (talk) 21:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete—this is not mentioned in the target article as it is a detail that is below the level of info granularity in that article. Would be a suitable redirect to a "list of creatures"-type article, though. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Metal Gear Online which has multiple mentions of Kerotan. If there was a Kerotan already, I would have supported deletion, but this is the best we have for now. Alternately move to Kerotan. Jay 💬 16:28, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not mentioned at target, so no point in keeping. The proposed target above does mention Kerotan multiple times, but it does not mention a Kerotan MGS3, and it would be confusing to retarget there. CycloneYoris talk! 00:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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Brüün, Jonathan
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:54, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Brüün, Jonathan → List of Dune secondary characters#Farad'n (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jonathan Brüün → List of Dune secondary characters#Farad'n (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jonathan Bruun → List of Dune secondary characters#Farad'n (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jonathan Brueuen → List of Dune secondary characters#Farad'n (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is an unused redirect from a non-notable performer name, to a list of fictional characters that includes a character this individual played. — TAnthonyTalk 19:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm not sure at the moment, but I did find three more variations of this guy's name that I'll be adding here. Regards, SONIC678 21:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- There was previously an article on the performer, hence the sort name redirect (Brüün, Jonathan). However, a sort name redirect need not exist if there is not a name to sort. BD2412 T 23:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete the same person is also mentioned at Oh No It Isn't!#Cast. Showing search results is more informative to readers than redirecting to any single work with which he's associated. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 09:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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NoCopyrightSound
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- NoCopyrightSound → NoCopyrightSounds (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
this would clutter search efforts for NCS AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Per WP:CHEAP. We mostly keep redirects that are not in a plural form. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 17:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- @AngusWOOF: How does NoCopyrightSound clutter search efforts? Jay 💬 18:42, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- It would attract more links going to NoCopyrightSound. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:58, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:04, 4 November 2022 (UTC)- NoCopyrightSound has no incoming links. Are you saying that the presence of this redirect will make external websites start linking to the singular than the plural? Jay 💬 09:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- When you type "NoCopyrightSound" into the Search box the results, in order, are NoCopyrightSound and NoCopyrightSounds. This is clutter. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- But isn't this true for every {{R from singular}} redirect? And I think by
search efforts for NCS
, the nom is referring to search for NoCopyrightSounds, not the singular. Jay 💬 15:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)- Keep as unclear nomination, and not per PizzaPlayer, since NoCopyrightSounds is a name which is in the plural, the singular does not make sense. Jay 💬 07:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- But isn't this true for every {{R from singular}} redirect? And I think by
- When you type "NoCopyrightSound" into the Search box the results, in order, are NoCopyrightSound and NoCopyrightSounds. This is clutter. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- NoCopyrightSound has no incoming links. Are you saying that the presence of this redirect will make external websites start linking to the singular than the plural? Jay 💬 09:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Protests against Daniel Ortega
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- The result of the discussion was Move target article to redirect. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 22:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Protests against Daniel Ortega → 2018–2022 Nicaraguan protests (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
NoonIcarus (talk) 20:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment @NoonIcarus: I'm unclear what you're proposing here. Do you wish to move the current target to the redirect? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Presidentman: Hi! Thanks for the ping. I originally wanted to tag the redirect for a speedy delete for a move, I'm the original creator of the redirect. I want to move the 2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests into the redirect; in other words, renaming the former into Protests against Daniel Ortega. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Please don’t put speedy deletion templates in RFD subpages as you did in this link[1] as it would be a simple waste of time for the administrators. Also you have not provided a reason to delete this redirect. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 21:25, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Pizzaplayer219: I started the RFD by mistake. As I expressed in the tag and the comment, the reason to delete the redirect is to allow a rename of the 2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests article. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- There was an edit conflict as I wrote the comment at around the same time as you replied to the user above. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 21:40, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Pizzaplayer219: I started the RFD by mistake. As I expressed in the tag and the comment, the reason to delete the redirect is to allow a rename of the 2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests article. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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David Schloss's Death
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:56, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- David Schloss's Death → Incidents at Six Flags parks (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Irrelevant, a David Schloss never died at Six Flags. Harobouri T • C (he/him) 19:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Bizarre redirect... I can find nothing anywhere on the internet connecting even an incident involving someone named "David Schloss" and Six Flags. TartarTorte 19:28, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Same reason as listed above. I don't know who this person is or how he was connected to Six Flags. None of the incidents on the redirected page mention his name. The editor who created the redirect offered no explanation or notations.—JlACEer (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:33, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Not mentioned at target. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5800:4D2:B473:DA3F:2C7B:8141 (talk) 21:22, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as apparently nonsensical redirect. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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Donald Trump endorsements
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 11#Donald Trump endorsements
Draft:Tropical Storm Yamaneko (2022)
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- The result of the discussion was Withdraw. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 19:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Draft:Tropical Storm Yamaneko (2022) → 2022 Pacific typhoon season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Since it fails WP:G3, which is a hoax, I decided to start a discussion for deletion per WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:OR. Take note: There is no Yamaneko in the Western Pacific. HurricaneEdgar 15:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support per WP:CRYSTALBALL. The system hasn't developed; why would an article be there in advance? Sarrail (talk) 16:02, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support this system should only be a draft for when it develops., and causing significant impacts for an article. PopularGames (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support per WP:CRYSTALBALL and Wikipedia:Notability (weather). Creating this draft article was premature. Drdpw (talk) 23:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Restore draft and
send to WP:MFDkeep. I'm not sure what the issue is with WP:CRYSTALBALL since I don't see why it applies to a draft. If the nominators want the page deleted as a draft, restore it and send this to WP:MFD. What is being proposed here is outside the scope of WP:RFD and is, in a way, circumnavigating WP:MFD. Steel1943 (talk) 03:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)- The issue is here with the creator claiming,
I think this storm might be catastrophic
," and clearly WP:CRYSTALBALL. HurricaneEdgar 13:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)- Right, I get that, but this page is in the draft namespace, not the article namespace. Pages in the draft namespace are not considered articles and are not indexed by search engines, meaning they will not pick up the existence of pages in the "draft" namespace. As Pizzaplayer219 states below (and probably better than I could), article notability guidelines like WP:CRYSTAL, WP:NWX, WP:OR, etc. don't apply as stringently to the "draft" namespace as they would the article namespace for various reasons ... including since drafts are works in progress where it is okay that they are wrong, as long as they get improved and not published as an article if WP:CRYSTAL, WP:NWX, WP:OR, etc. would then apply to get it deleted. Steel1943 (talk) 17:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- The comments following mine have convinced me that sending this page to WP:MFD immediately after this discussion may be premature, so that portion of my opinion has been struck. Steel1943 (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- The issue is here with the creator claiming,
- Restore and keep: WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply to drafts, nor does WP:NWX and WP:OR (however blatant hoaxes do apply). We should wait until WP:G13 handles this draft or someone decides to edit this draft until the event comes. If this was sent to MFD I’m pretty sure that the result would be keep. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I share the opinion that a WP:MFD discussion for the content at this redirect would result in "keep". Steel1943 (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Restore: If there is no Tropical Storm Yamaneko in 2022, then the draft will like languish in draftspace and be quietly deleted per WP:G13 in 6 months' time. If such a storm does exist, there is no reason to not use the article history provided. It seems that due to it not being in mainspace, there is no harm to a restoration which could trigged WP:CRYSTAL in mainspace. TartarTorte 18:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Essentially, complete agree with Pizzaplayer TartarTorte 18:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support this system doesn't even exist yet. There is no reason for an article to exist on a non-existing storm. Hurricane Chandler (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's not an article; it's a draft. Steel1943 (talk) 07:17, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Hurricane Chandler and Drdpw Hurricane Su (talk) 20:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm trying to avoid WP:BLUDGEON here, but it seems a point needs to be restated to every participant here stating "Support" since they are not familiar with how voting at RFD works and are probably more familiar with WP:AFD: This redirect was a draft, not an article. See WP:DRAFT. Steel1943 (talk) 04:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Restore and keep per above, WP:CRYSTAL does not apply to drafts. Also, Yamaneko is actually the next name to be used on the list of names for the 2022 Pacific typhoon season, so it won't be long before this draft could potentially be used for something. CycloneYoris talk! 17:55, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- It appears the draft creator GDFilbert03 wanted to have this speedy deleted, and added a {{Speedy deletion}} tag, but it was declined as no reason was given. Filbert, if you wish to have it deleted, you must tag it as WP:G7 (Author requests deletion). Jay 💬 17:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- It seems that the draft creator GDFilbert03 wanted to request deletion. HurricaneEdgar 05:54, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- (Update) as of November 12, Tropical Storm Yamaneko formed in the Pacific Ocean according to JMA. HurricaneEdgar 13:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- And that is precisely why I supported keeping the draft, since it might end up being useful. This draft should definitely be kept now that Yamaneko has formed. CycloneYoris talk! 20:39, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Since the storms has formed I Withdrawn the nomination. HurricaneEdgar 23:50, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- And that is precisely why I supported keeping the draft, since it might end up being useful. This draft should definitely be kept now that Yamaneko has formed. CycloneYoris talk! 20:39, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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Pittsburgh Reelers
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Pittsburgh Reelers → Pittsburgh Steelers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Can find a couple uses as a joke on user-generated sites, but searching for this is primarily about dancing groups doing the Irish reel. Delete as not useful and essentially made-up. Hog Farm Talk 15:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FANCRUFT. It has no visits in 30 days either. Roostery123 (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Abundance and Redundancy
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 14:00, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Abundance and Redundancy → Redundancy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
A piece of history here, but not a useful one. Created as an article in 2003, probably in error because it was very quickly redirected to Wikipedia:Abundance and redundancy, and in 2007 redirected to the disambiguation page Redundancy, which is not helpful. I think we should Delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:00, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY per Abundance. Steel1943 (talk) 19:15, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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CAT:MAZDA
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- CAT:MAZDA → Category:Mazda vehicles (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is an essentially never linked to and rarely used by pageviews XNR using the CAT: pseudo prefix. While there are some XNRs with the CAT: pseudo-prefix that are considered to be useful due to how popular said categories are like CAT:PROD or CAT:PEND, but it seems that this is pretty specific for an XNR. TartarTorte 13:19, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete – useless and unused pseudo-namespace redirect for a content category. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 13:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Apollon Zimmermann
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Apollon Zimmermann → ru:Циммерман, Аполлон Эрнестович (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Soft redirect to Russian Wikipedia. According to WP:SRD, Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they are generally unhelpful to English-language readers.
■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 12:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 12:49, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Soft-redirects to non-english wikipedias end up not being helpful. If one wants to link to a foreign language article {{ill}} is almost always a better way to do such. TartarTorte 13:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:58, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and also to encourage article creation --Lenticel (talk) 01:36, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, unless there is an appropriate local target for this page (which there does not appear to be). Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. Additionally, the plain {{soft redirect}} template is not used in the mainspace (along the lines of the sentiment expressed at WP:SOFTSP). See here for precedents. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: It seems like it would be pretty quick and straightforward for an editor with the requisite language skills to translate this into an English Wikipedia article. BD2412 T 21:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:35, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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Temp (hairstyle)
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Temple fade (hairstyle). ✗plicit 11:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Temp (hairstyle) → Bangs (hair) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The hairstyle temp (if that was what was intended here) is not mentioned at the target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Temple fade (hairstyle) as a synonym and abbreviation. – Scyrme (talk) 14:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:40, 28 October 2022 (UTC)- The article Temple fade (hairstyle) does not mention being known as "Temp" * Pppery * it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Does it have to? It's clear how the abbreviation relates to the full title. I don't think anyone being redirected would be confused by it, so it's not necessary in this case. If you search the term off-site, all the results are about the temple fade. If you really think an explicit mention is needed, it would be easy to add one, but the "also known as" in the lead is already fairly long. – Scyrme (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- If it doesn't mention, then you can tag
{{R without mention}}
but Temp (hairstyle) cannot be added to Temp (disambiguation) unless it's mentioned. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- If it doesn't mention, then you can tag
- Does it have to? It's clear how the abbreviation relates to the full title. I don't think anyone being redirected would be confused by it, so it's not necessary in this case. If you search the term off-site, all the results are about the temple fade. If you really think an explicit mention is needed, it would be easy to add one, but the "also known as" in the lead is already fairly long. – Scyrme (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- The article Temple fade (hairstyle) does not mention being known as "Temp" * Pppery * it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget per Scyrme. Jay 💬 08:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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Southern Cross 9
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:09, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Southern Cross 9 → NWS (TV station) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Southern Cross Nine → NWS (TV station) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Multiple TV stations, channels or networks were/are owned by Southern Cross Austereo or one of their predecessors and is/were an affiliate of the Nine Network. The current target article is owned by Nine Entertainment since 2013. Southern Cross Nine used to target to 10 (Southern Cross Austereo) also owned by Southern Cross Austereo, a former Nine affiliate since 2021, until earlier this year I retargeted that redirect to the same target of this redirect (Southern Cross 9), NWS (TV station). GDS/BDN, a TV station broadcasting in the Spencer Gulf and Broken Hill areas, was the only Nine Network affiliate owned by Southern Cross Austereo before the 2016 affiliation swap when most of the Network 10 affiliates owned by Southern Cross Austereo switched to the Nine Network except NRN and SGS/SCN. The switch was reversed in July 2021 and GDS/BDN has been reverted to being the only Nine Network affiliate owned by Southern Cross Austereo. This is my reason to let someone make this redirect into a disambiguation page featuring NWS (TV station), 10 (Southern Cross Austereo) and GDS/BDN. Bassie f (talk) 06:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I put a notice on Talk:10 (Southern Cross Austereo) about this discussion because one of the redirects in this discussion (Southern Cross Nine) previously targeted to 10 (Southern Cross Austereo). Bassie f (talk) 20:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- There is also Nine (Southern Cross Austereo) and Nine On 5 which currently target 10 (Southern Cross Austereo). I think disambiguation is a good option, however I also wonder if some rearranging of articles would be warranted here as having an article called 10 (Southern Cross Austereo) also be about channel 9 is quite confusing. A7V2 (talk) 23:50, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- It was affiliated to the Nine Network for 5 years (2016-2021) before it switched back to a Network 10 affiliation. That’s why A7V2. Bassie f (talk) 00:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- I just expanded the redirect hatnote on the 10 (Southern Cross Austereo) article to include Nine (Southern Cross Austereo) and Nine On 5 3 minutes ago. Bassie f (talk) 01:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- The confusion comes from what "it" is. Potentially the article should have a more "timeless" title, or the 9 affiliation part could be split out, but I think that is out of the scope of this discussion. A7V2 (talk) 01:08, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- It was affiliated to the Nine Network for 5 years (2016-2021) before it switched back to a Network 10 affiliation. That’s why A7V2. Bassie f (talk) 00:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose: Southern Cross Nine and Southern Cross 9 refer to SCA's stations during their affiliation with the Nine Network. Propose they redirect to 10 (Southern Cross Austereo)#2016–2021: Nine affiliation the specific section in the article that covers the affiliation. The Adelaide station NWS was never referred to as "Southern Cross Nine" under its previous ownership, redirecting to NWS would be inaccurate and confusing. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 05:08, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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Israei beer
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Israei beer → Beer in Israel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Israeli beer is the right redirect, this one is just a misspelling Artem.G (talk) 06:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Well there's a request on the talk page from 2008, from the person who moved it to that title to begin with, to "fix the typo". But I guess that doesn't quite count as a G7 since they weren't the one to move the page back. So yeah, delete. Pageviews are <10/year, probably from the search suggestions. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 07:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- "Israei" is a surprisingly common typo/misspelling (type it into Google), so, per WP:RFD#KEEP, it's better to keep it than delete it. It serves a useful function. Just needs {{R from misspelling}} adding to it. SilkTork (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The correct Israel beer doesn't exist, and without hatnotes could create confusion with Israel Beer. Moreover, Israei is not a redirect for Israel. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:55, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- The correct redirect is actually Israeli beer, which does exist. If Israei existed as a redirect it would be to Israeli not Israel. Thryduulf (talk) 22:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. It is evidently difficult to ascertain what someone typing this might have wanted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete seems to be an unlikely misspelling --Lenticel (talk) 00:10, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Granola eaters
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WCAT-AM
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to WCAT. Jay 💬 07:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Ambiguous title — this redirect seems to exist because the first station to broadcast from the school that owns KTEQ-FM had the WCAT call sign (even though there was a 20-year gap between that station's demise and the start of the first incarnation of KTEQ). However, a WCAT (AM) operated in Vermont until this past week, and the Massachusetts station now known as WPVQ (AM) long had the WCAT call sign for most of its first 50 years. If I had run into this before the Vermont station shut down I might have simply boldly redirected, but it's a bit of a stickier situation now. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- If there are multiple operators that use or previously used this callsign then it seems like disambiguation is in order. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- There's already a disambiguation page in place at WCAT. - Eureka Lott 13:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to WCAT per Eureka Lott. Skynxnex (talk) 22:25, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to WCAT. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:55, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mirror of Aachan
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:52, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Mirror of Aachan → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Another split-off from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: This is a merge and redirect to The View from the Mirror#Mirror of Aachan which also was BLARed. Jay 💬 03:18, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - No other possible targets of ambiguity Roostery123 (talk) 17:10, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Penny Doe
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Disambiguated Three Worlds Cycle plot points
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Minis (Well of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Minis (Well Of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ullii (Well of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ullii (Well Of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ryll (Well of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ryll (Well Of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Seeker (Well of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Seeker (Well Of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nish (Well Of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nish (Well of Echoes) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tensor (The View from the Mirror) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tensor (The View From The Mirror) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Lilis (View from the Mirror) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Lilis (View From the Mirror) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Shand (View from the Mirror) → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Here's another split-off nomination from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points. As before, none of these are mentioned at the target. Some of these have prior article history, but in all cases it's wholly unsourced and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle found the entire book series not notable, so it's basically impossible that these characters are and I don't see the need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Sorry to mention it to you late, but you forgot two of these disambiguated ones (Tensor (The View From The Mirror) and Lilis (View From the Mirror)), which I'm adding here. Regards, SONIC678 02:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 03:23, 4 November 2022 (UTC)- Delete all - Not mentioned at the target and the parenthesis leaves no room for the possibility of other uses. Roostery123 (talk) 17:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Scrutators
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Chief Scrutator Ghorr → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Scrutator Fusshte → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Council of Scrutators → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Council of scrutators → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Scrutator T'lisp → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Scrutator Halie → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Scrutator Klarm → Ian Irvine#Three Worlds Cycle series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Here's an attempt at a more manageable nomination from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points. The basic problem is still that none of these characters are mentioned at the target. Some of these have prior article history, but in all cases it's wholly unsourced and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle AfD found the entire book series not notable, so it's basically impossible that these characters are and I don't see the need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Revert Scrutator Fusshte and send that to AfD. There is a contested PROD in the page history (courtesy ping to ThaddeusB) so that pretty much has to go for further discussion. Weak delete most of the others, as while there is extensive BLARed history to most of them the linked AfD does preclude their being notable. The exception is Council of scrutators which has always been a redirect, whatever happens to the correctly capitalised Council of Scrutators should happen to that one too. I'll mark it as an {{R avoided double redirect}} without prejudice for now. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Scrutator Klarm was bundled in with this nomination at this time/edit. (Pinging Pppery to let them know.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete all No plausible redirect targets. If a book series is not notable, there's no shot that an individual character is notable. Also fine to delete Scrutator Fusshte per WP:NOTBURO. Ovinus (talk) 08:17, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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Elienor
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Eleanor. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 17:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Another split-off from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Somewhat reluctant delete per nom. We do have Elienor Werner, and that name is a French variant of Eleanor, but I'm not sure this'll be a plausible search term because 1) I don't think we have other Elienors with Wikipedia articles and 2) Werner doesn't seem to be mononymously known by her first name. Until we can find enough notable people with that name, this redirect will just have to go.Regards, SONIC678 02:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)- Retarget to Eleanor as an attested non-fictional variant of that name. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- But it's not mentioned or described at that target. Perhaps this could be added to the variants section? The variant Ellienor is mentioned at Ellie, but is not a redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Adding it should be fine. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- But it's not mentioned or described at that target. Perhaps this could be added to the variants section? The variant Ellienor is mentioned at Ellie, but is not a redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Eleanor per Mellohi!. I considered the disambiguation but the main page lists a bunch of variants and this would be fitting for that. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Eleanor per Mellohi! and Angus (changing my !vote, I didn't think it could be added there at first but now that I think about it it is as plausible a search term as all those others listed on the page). This variant of the name would be fitting to include on the page, and possibly mention Werner there as I've pointed out above. Regards, SONIC678 20:04, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Eleanor, I've added a cited mention in the article. --Lenticel (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Maritime discovery
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus / retarget to Maritime history. Not enough consensus to justify deletion. But there is some agreement among participants to retarget this somewhere, and this was the only target that was suggested more than once. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:36, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maritime discovery → Age of Discovery (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I'm not finding any evidence that the redirect exclusively refers to its target. For the most part, there have been several discoveries in the sea that are not directly related to the target subject. Unless there is evidence that the target subject is officially named as the redirect as an alternative title, the redirect probably be deleted to allow search results to be more helpful than this pigeonholing connection. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- ...Or possibly Maritime history, but I'm not sure how strongly the term "discovery" connects to the subject of Maritime history. Steel1943 (talk) 21:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The Polynesians certainly performed maritime discovery, as did the vikings -- 65.92.244.114 (talk) 10:49, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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- comment (redirect) If this was the Portuguese (and Portugal's) wikipedia this might be a decent redirect. Alas... it isn't... So it probably is best redirected to Maritime_history#Age_of_Discovery or Maritime_history. - Nabla (talk) 23:02, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Timeline of maritime migration and exploration as with Maritime exploration AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Sergeant Garcia
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Urinatingtree
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:49, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Urinatingtree → 2018 Pittsburgh Steelers season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is the name of an active YouTuber with 547 thousand subscribers. He did a series on the 2018 Pittsburgh Steelers season, but he's also done a LOT more. This is not an appropriate redirect and should be left red for the time being. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:04, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete while he is mentioned in the target article he has done a lot more on YouTube than simply cover the 2018 Steelers season so there is a strong chance that people looking him up are doing for different reasons making this redirect useless in many instances.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 04:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as his regular name doesn't even have a redirect and it's probably WP:BLP1E for now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Because he uploads videos on other sports-related content then just the 2018 Steelers. —216.7.132.76 (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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