Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/January-2025
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- Reason
- full movie, high quality copy
- Articles in which this image appears
- The Belle of Broadway
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Film
- Creator
- Harry O. Hoyt
- Support as nominator – Yann (talk) 18:28, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – EV? – Sca (talk) 14:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Question What's with the different tints of the print? I see sepia, B&W, and purple. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- See Film_tinting... --Janke | Talk 19:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm aware of the practice. The article doesn't discuss why tinting was used in this particular instance, and the purple seems quite vibrant (especially contrasted with the B&W) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's a language of early film we don't have anymore. It's probably meant to emphasise the femininity of her dressing room or something. It's cruder, but not much weirder than those extreme orange/blue palettes that were huge 10 years ago and will look odd in twenty years. Support as it's a very high resolution copy, very sharp, very good, and it's in an article about itself. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 06:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm aware of the practice. The article doesn't discuss why tinting was used in this particular instance, and the purple seems quite vibrant (especially contrasted with the B&W) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Though the article will need work before MP time. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Needs a fifth. --Janke | Talk 13:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Carlosmarkos2345 (talk) 17:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:The Belle of Broadway (1926) by Harry O. Hoyt.webm --Armbrust The Homunculus 18:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- whole movie, high quality copy
- Articles in which this image appears
- The Wasp Woman
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Film
- Creator
- Roger Corman
- Support as nominator – Yann (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – EV? – Sca (talk) 13:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 13:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Vinícius O. (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:The Wasp Woman (1959) by Roger Corman.webm --Armbrust The Homunculus 18:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality digitization of a notable drawing. Interesting in its sketch-like quality.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Self-Portrait (Ellen Thesleff)
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others
- Creator
- Ellen Thesleff
- Support as nominator – — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Haunting. --Janke | Talk 19:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Moonreach (talk) 19:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 13:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – Subject's bio article is a 195-word stub. Seems rather obscure. – Sca (talk) 15:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Considering Viriditas was able to pull together 1400 words on this self-portrait alone, I expect there is significantly more available about the artist than what we currently have. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sca: Birds and insects in FPC pass with stubs less than 50 words. Why does the article size matter? Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 00:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support – Bammesk (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support It will only be in the public domain in a few days, but well... – Yann (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I noticed that as well. Figured, since the FFD would close after it became PD, no point. Especially since we could always transwiki it to EN-Wiki for the... ten days it'll take. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 11:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Omakuva Ellen Thesleff 1894-1895 Ateneum.webp --Armbrust The Homunculus 14:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- I know concert photos are hit-or-miss, but I've listened to a fair amount of Jewel and I think this is an excellent depiction of the overall attitude she brings to music. It's a shame her left hand is out of frame, but I think the expressiveness still comes through strongly.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Jewel (singer)
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
- Creator
- Davidwbaker
- Support as nominator – Moonreach (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 13:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – Her face is out of focus (doesn't look like motion blur). I think the focal plane is in front, at her elbow. Sometimes a high pixel count makes up for softness issues, but the pixel count isn't that high in this case. Bammesk (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support Agree with Bammesk. This is slightly soft on the face. It's quite competent, overall, but between the low resolution and missed focus I'm not sure. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support: Same as Chris Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 06:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nomination didn’t reach the necessary quorum for promotion. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Gorgeous image of Lower Manhattan,
atwo months before it no longer looked like this. Image is large as well, and I only noted small distortion on a few buildings at the edges of the picture, all the rest are straight from what I've seen. High EV as it depicts a building complex with it's surroundings, justatwo months before they left us. Amazing image overall, especially for 2001. May need slight clean-up, I did notice dust at the top. - Articles in which this image appears
- Architecture of New York City, World Trade Center (1973–2001), (will add to more articles shortly, surprised it isn't used in more)
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Urban
- Creator
- Carol M. Highsmith
- Support as nominator – EF5 18:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose due to a lot of dust & scratches, needs restoration. --Janke | Talk 21:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — Agree about the dust and scratches. I'd support a restored alt, though. Moonreach (talk) 20:38, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
ConditionalSupport Alt 1 –if the restoration is donenow is done. It would be nice if we could source the "August 2001". Bammesk (talk) 02:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Alt 2 – Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- It would probably in her WTC book (ISBN 9780517220924), if someone has access. blameless 02:06, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- About the restoration, I will do it in the next couple of days. Photo was certainly shot post 1997 because that's when the Museum of Jewish Heritage was completed, in foreground. Close enough to 2001 for me to support. Bammesk (talk) 02:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Support Vulcan thinks a restoration will help this image, now waiting and will switch support to Alt 1 if it is ready.–Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 05:02, 6 December 2024 (UTC)- I added Alt 1, restored it and fixed the perspective/lens distortion (it was visible at far left and far right). And added the image to the World Trade Center (1973–2001) article. BTW, the date of the photo is July 2001. I verified it in Highsmith's book (per User:Blameless), and added a note on the file page, the book says "two months before" the attacks. Pinging participants @EF5, Janke, Moonreach, and VulcanSphere:, @Blameless:. Bammesk (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Looks amazing, thank you! EF5 18:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- EF5, you need to vote for the Alt, your earlier vote covers the "Original", not "Alt 1". See my vote above. Bammesk (talk) 18:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support ALT1 - EF5 18:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 - Moonreach (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Support Alt 1 –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 21:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)- Support Alt 1 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Support Alt 1--Petar Milošević (talk) 12:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 2 I more like Alt2, but in any case i would support what came out of film. Which i dont know and cant see. So Alt 2 for now. --Petar Milošević (talk) 12:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 – Hamid Hassani (talk) 04:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I think there is a color issue. Please see this comment on Commons. Yann (talk) 11:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- So I made blue tint corrected version. Support Alt2 --Yann (talk) 17:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear,
I oppose Alt 1. Yann (talk) 17:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)- Striked that after new corrections. Yann (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- No comment, so @EF5, Janke, Bammesk, Blameless, Moonreach, VulcanSphere, Crisco 1492, PetarM, and Hamid Hassani: Yann (talk) 16:31, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 2 The blue tint correction looks convincing enough for Vulcan –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 00:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone closure to give time for editors to consider alt 2. @EF5, Janke, Bammesk, Moonreach, Crisco 1492, PetarM, and Hamid Hassani: Armbrust The Homunculus 19:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 as well. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support either alt - Moonreach (talk) 16:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Armbrust and Yann: Hi. I was out of WP for nearly a week. My vote is Alt 2 indeed, but, I'm sorry that voting period is over now. Best, Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved from talk page. @Hamid Hassani: FYI: if you voted on a nomination, than you can update your vote until the discussion is closed (even after the voting period ended). Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 19:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Armbrust, you might want to keep this nom open for another week. I might get a chance to improve "Alt 1" and address the other issues as well, which were noted in the Commons FP nom. Bammesk (talk) 03:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. As it currently stands it’s very close between the two alts too. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 03:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did more restoration on Alt 1. Edited tint, colors, brightness, vignetting, and sky noise/artifacts. These were critiqued in the Commons FP nom. FYI, the adjustments are made based on the time of day (per the shadows) which indicate a July mid-late afternoon clear-sunny day. Pinging participants who voted support, please indicate a preference for either "Alt 1" or "Alt 2" so we can close this nom. @EF5, Moonreach, VulcanSphere, Crisco 1492, PetarM, Hamid Hassani, Yann, and Armbrust:. Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alt 2, Alt 1 has weird color imbalances from the vignette correction. Also, please don't ping me about this discussion any more. I'm not that invested in it. Moonreach (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still support ALT2. The colors are too bright, in my opinion. Sort of looks like ALT1 got flashbanged. EF5 17:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @EF5:, try it again. I just fixed a thumbnail color profile error. See it at This link, because smaller thumbnails might still display exaggerated colors/brightness (because it takes some time for servers to react). You can also click on the image several times to see it at full screen or full size. Bammesk (talk) 18:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- For comparison Here is a screenshot of her book taken from Archive.org here. It's not a good scan of the book, but it shows the colors and brightness of a sunny afternoon. Bammesk (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still tend to support Alt 2. As I see, the colors seem brighter and clearer, and, e.g, the surface of the water and to some extent the sky also look more natural. – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, Alt 1 looks much better now, so I don't oppose it anymore, but I still have a slight preference for Alt 2, as mentioned by others above. Yann (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:World Trade Center towers, New York, LCCN2015645969.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alt 2 has the most support, and therefore it's promoted. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality, very high resolution. Featured pictures on Wikimedia Commons (14 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral)
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Facade to the mountains
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Facade to Vaduz
- Articles in which this image appears
- Vaduz Castle, Vaduz, List of royal palaces etc.
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
- Creator
- A.Savin
- Support as nominator – Vinícius O. (talk) 21:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support --EUPBR (talk) 12:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Bammesk (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Moonreach (talk) 20:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Liechtenstein asv2022-10 img01 Vaduz Schloss.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Promoted File:Liechtenstein asv2022-10 img22 Vaduz Schloss.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality and resolution. Good digitization
- Articles in which this image appears
- The Anger of Achilles, Agamemnon, Iphigenia in Aulis, Iphigénie, Jacques-Louis David, Nous, List of paintings by Jacques-Louis David.
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
- Creator
- Jacques-Louis David
- Support as nominator – Vinícius O. (talk) 21:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 21:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Giles Laurent (talk) 10:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 11:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Jacques-Louis David - The Anger of Achilles - Google Art Project.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Image was unanimously featured on Commons (please read the rationale there as it is too long to put here and ignore the first sentence)
- Articles in which this image appears
- Tropical cyclone, Hurricane Florence, Meteorological history of Hurricane Florence
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Natural phenomena/Weather
- Creator
- NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
- Support as nominator – ZZZ'S 23:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 10:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Two more articles should be listed above too (for its EV), Hurricane Florence and Meteorological history of Hurricane Florence. Being in Tropical cyclone and its lead image is great, but over time it can be replaced there as new cyclones occur and better images are uploaded. Whereas this image will be stable and hard to replace in articles relating to Hurricane Florence itself. Bammesk (talk) 15:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Moonreach (talk) 20:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Dramatic Views of Hurricane Florence from the International Space Station From 9 12 (42828603210) (cropped).jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 23:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Unanimously featured on Commons. Headline image.
- Articles in which this image appears
- African desert warbler
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
- Creator
- El Golli Mohamed
- Support as nominator – MER-C 11:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) \
- Support Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC) \
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Fauvette du désert Jebil NP.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 11:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Unanimously featured on Commons.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Atmosphere of Jupiter
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
- Creator
- Juno (spacecraft) (NASA/JPL)
- Support as nominator – MER-C 11:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Good addition to the section it is in (also unique photo). Bammesk (talk) 16:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Giles Laurent (talk) 18:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I continue to wish the Junocam was a better piece of hardware, but this is probably the best photo I've seen it take. – Moonreach (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:PIA21972 Jupiter Blues.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 11:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Unanimously featured on Commons. Headline image. Functional replacement for File:Lion waiting in Namibia.jpg, which is up for delisting.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Lion etc.
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
- Creator
- Giles Laurent
- Support as nominator – MER-C 11:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's a good Commons FP, but don't actually think this image should be the lead image in an encyclopaedia. It portrays a very old lion. I prefer something more like The Lion King. When it was substituted as lead image, the photographer stated 'by Community consensus'. There wasn't any consensus. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry but this is very untrue. The lion was only between 7 and 9 years old when the picture was taken (2020) which is not a "very old lion" as you pretend.
- Also, in my opinion the picture you linked is of much lower encyclopedic value then the actual one because : 1) the photo you linked is of much lower resolution ; 2) the lion in the photo you linked is facing away (second eye almost not visible, half the face missing).
- Finally, only support votes without any oppose is consensus whether you like it or not. Also let me remind you that you're actually the one replacing images in the Lion article to put your own images without any community consensus. Examples : 1, 2, 3, 4 -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your own vote plus one other on a talk page that few visit is not a consensus. Wikipedia does not require a consensus to replace an image in an article. Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I pinged the user who told me to bring that subject to the talk page and he didn't oppose once he saw all arguments in favor. Another user also supported. The edit was performed after over 3 weeks after the discussion was started to let any eventual oppose speak. There were only supports and no oppose in that deadline. Like it or not, that is a consensus. If wikipedia doesn't require consensus to edit featured articles then I don't see why you tried to make a story out of it with your first message. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 16:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not so. He was born in 2010 so was age 9 or 10 and well past his prime. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- He was between 10 and 13 according to the Washington Post when he died so he was between 7 and 10 when photographed. You're now referring to lion prime and mane. According to your own article this lion was on his prime since his mane is extremely impressive (much more then the picture you linked in my opinion : color, length, thickness and overall mane appearance) and this would also mean that the age would be between 6 and 8 according to your article -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp and Giles Laurent: If I might put in my opinion - and you can agree or disagree as you see fit:
- First of all, let's look at the before and after images:
- The replaced image was File:Lion_waiting_in_Namibia.jpg. This image has a good thumbnail, arguably slightly better æsthetics than Giles' image, but objectively, is blurry - even though it's somewhat low resolution - and is nowhere near FP quality.
- Giles' image, on technical grounds, is excellent. Sharp, well-lit, good composition, high resolution. It does seem to be a slightly shaggy-maned, older lion.
- Now, let's ask some questions about what the lead image should do:
- It should draw people into the article. This can be by identifying the subject, looking good, or a lot of other ways. For most articles, it should be an initial introduction to the subject, but few subjects are narrow enough to have one image fully cover them, and some - certain mathematical subjects with unclear discoverers, say - may not be able to have a particularly compelling or relevant illustration at all.
- It's good to start with a high-quality image, so people looking for images of a subject will be encouraged to check out the other images in the article. This is a lesser criteria.
- And what it doesn't need to do:
- The first image doesn't have to be the most iconic one. We don't start Margaret Hamilton (actress) with her dressed as the Wicked Witch of the West; the heavy makeup distorts too much, and she did a lot of other things. It can be helpful to slightly challenge an over-simplistic view of a subject early. There's a lot of latitude here.
- It doesn't have to do everything. There's a reason we don't limit images to one or two per article.
- And, while not relevant here, I don't think that the lead image is the only one that can be featured. That just discourages improving the images not in the lead.
- ----
- I'd say that, taken in totality with all the images in the article, the older lion is... a type of lion worth seeing in the article. We want to see a variety of images in the article, otherwise, some are redundant. For example, a lead image for Cat doesn't need to include ginger, tabbies, calico, black, white, long haired, short haired, sphinx, and every other sort of cat out there, but the article as a whole should try to show the variety. Here, we'd reasonably want a few angles, both genders, and a few ages, and a bunch of behaviours. I'd say the article has a decent variety as it stands.
- Hence, I'm voting Support. But I think you're having a dispute over what's the ideal lead image - which there is some reason to do: we don't want the image to disappear from the article in the months before it mainpages, and a poorly-positioned image is more likely to do that. I don't think an older lion is necessarily bad, but that's a judgement call, and I'm not sure that's going to be something that you two are going to agree on, because it's a very subjective point. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 06:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Very helpful contribution. Charlesjsharp (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- He was between 10 and 13 according to the Washington Post when he died so he was between 7 and 10 when photographed. You're now referring to lion prime and mane. According to your own article this lion was on his prime since his mane is extremely impressive (much more then the picture you linked in my opinion : color, length, thickness and overall mane appearance) and this would also mean that the age would be between 6 and 8 according to your article -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your own vote plus one other on a talk page that few visit is not a consensus. Wikipedia does not require a consensus to replace an image in an article. Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support thank you for the nomination! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support as per Adam. High quality image used as lead. Yann (talk) 12:31, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I much prefer this lion. The other one looked almost mangy. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 05:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:020 The lion king Snyggve in the Serengeti National Park Photo by Giles Laurent.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 11:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality image. Adds value to article. FP on Commons. Image of nominate subspecies is already an FP.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Masked lapwing
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
- Creator
- Charlesjsharp
- Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 11:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Masked lapwing (Vanellus miles novaehollandiae) Waitakere.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality image. Adds value to article. FP on Commons.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Collared lory
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
- Creator
- Charlesjsharp
- Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 13:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Collared lory (Vini solitaria) on octopus tree (Heptapleurum actinophyllum) Colo-I-Suva.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality image. FP on Commons.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Pyrops candelaria
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
- Creator
- Charlesjsharp
- Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 13:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Lantern bug (Pyrops candelaria) Double Haven HK.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- While the width is only just over 1,000 px, I think that's more to do with the aspect ratio. It's still 2 megapixels, and, having got it as part of a collaboration with the museum, I don't think it's likely to get better anytime soon
- Articles in which this image appears
- Dias Gomes
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Artists and writers
- Creator
- Unknown photographer, restored by Adam Cuerden
- Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 14:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment -
Needs a US copyright tag.Really not sure we need the table or leg (?) at the bottom. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Chris, the copyright tag covers US, no? Says "is in the public domain both in Brazil and in the United States". I am fine with the composition, and pixel count (per historic exception), if the copyright is PD. Bammesk (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say the tag covers the URAA situation better than any new tag could. I presume, given the Brazilian National Archive has declared it public domain, that it's considered a non-artistic photographic portrait - and the composition with his crossed leg at the bottom, a background that looks like auditorium seating, and so on, kind of leans into that explanation. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 17:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- (ec) You're right. Still not quite sure I think the composition is up to snuff, especially since the aspect ratio isn't quite something I'd expect for a historical image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- About the aspect ratio, I am pretty sure the negative covered more area, and the print crops the sides (perhaps other people were seated there or etc.). It's an unusual crop, but sometimes that's interesting though. The crop kind of matches his expression, I think. Bammesk (talk) 18:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've always felt that photographs from underrepresented countries have a certain added value. This is far above the quality for most authors listed under pt:Lista de membros da Academia Brasileira de Letras. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 18:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Chris, the copyright tag covers US, no? Says "is in the public domain both in Brazil and in the United States". I am fine with the composition, and pixel count (per historic exception), if the copyright is PD. Bammesk (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – taking an exception to the pixel count requirement, with this being somewhat of an old/historic photo. On a sidenote, he was born in 1922, so my guess is the photo dates to early 1960s or so. Bammesk (talk) 18:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Moonreach (talk) 20:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 11:20, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Dias Gomes (sem data) - Restoration.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 16:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Previously nominated here, the picture went through some issues that were unsorted, such as replacing the photo nominated with this one. Nonetheless, this image is still very historically important and high quality, and is one of the most
- Articles in which this image appears
- Uncle Sam, Propaganda
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War I
- Creator
- James Montgomery Flagg
- Support as nominator – Wcamp9 (talk) 18:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Really not convinced by the colours. Needs a restoration, which probably means tracing back a lot of things regarding original sources, etc. This has also been superseded with a better scan on the Library of Congress site. https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/96507165/ Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 20:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 19:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- One of the most famous and important images in science. Because of that, I think it is an exception when it comes to quality
- Articles in which this image appears
- Photo 51, DNA
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
- Creator
- Raymond Gosling
- Support as nominator – Wcamp9 (talk) 18:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I need to talk this one through: On the one hand, this was originally a photographic plate, so the limit of detail is somewhere a little smaller than the film grain size (since the film grains don't form a grid, so the conversion to grid is going to eat detail if it's too close to film grain size).
- It's not sharp, but I'm not sure if that's JPEG artefacting, resolution, or just that X-ray diffraction isn't a photograph of a straight line.
- It's relatively small dimensions (858 × 858) which might be reasonable if this is a tiny spot on a photographic plate, or might be horrible. I don't know. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 21:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- This could be a case where (FP criterion 5) "A picture's encyclopedic value is given priority over its artistic value"? As in this nom? Bammesk (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but it's also the case we should nominate the best copy possible. There are numerous other copies of Photo 51 online, some much bigger, so we need to judge which is best. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 04:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- This could be a case where (FP criterion 5) "A picture's encyclopedic value is given priority over its artistic value"? As in this nom? Bammesk (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't get it. Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp: I'm curious what you don't get. There's an entire page dedicated to this photo that describes its importance. Why? I Ask (talk) 09:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Because a photo in an article is supposed to add value on its own. This doesn't. It only makes any sense after you read about it. For me, that is the wrong way round. Also, it adds little value to DNA article and isn't included in double helix article, Why? I Ask. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp: That is an incredibly stupid reason. If something is described as the most important photo by many medical journals, newspapers, and books, it certainly has great encyclopedic value. (I did a basic search and found no less than forty sources calling it such.) Hell, it even has a play about it. And isn't one of the criteria literally
it illustrates the subject in a compelling way, making the viewer want to know more
? Why? I Ask (talk) 19:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp: That is an incredibly stupid reason. If something is described as the most important photo by many medical journals, newspapers, and books, it certainly has great encyclopedic value. (I did a basic search and found no less than forty sources calling it such.) Hell, it even has a play about it. And isn't one of the criteria literally
- There is no reason to be rude Why? I Ask. I may be old but I am not stupid. And even if I was, you shouldn't insult me. I read Watson's The Double Helix when it was published in 1968. The FP criteria you quote is spot on and I know it well. The image does not illustrate the subject in a compelling way. It does not make the viewer want to know more. QED. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not say you were stupid. You're clearly a very talented photographer based on your page. I said it was a stupid reason, and I stand by that. It meets all the criteria laid out. The fact that it is aesthetically dull is explicitly not a reason to oppose:
A featured picture is not always required to be aesthetically pleasing; it might be shocking, impressive, or just highly informative. Highly graphic, historical and otherwise unique images may not have to be classically beautiful at all.
As I have said, it is highly historical. Why? I Ask (talk) 12:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not say you were stupid. You're clearly a very talented photographer based on your page. I said it was a stupid reason, and I stand by that. It meets all the criteria laid out. The fact that it is aesthetically dull is explicitly not a reason to oppose:
- There is no reason to be rude Why? I Ask. I may be old but I am not stupid. And even if I was, you shouldn't insult me. I read Watson's The Double Helix when it was published in 1968. The FP criteria you quote is spot on and I know it well. The image does not illustrate the subject in a compelling way. It does not make the viewer want to know more. QED. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Because a photo in an article is supposed to add value on its own. This doesn't. It only makes any sense after you read about it. For me, that is the wrong way round. Also, it adds little value to DNA article and isn't included in double helix article, Why? I Ask. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose – Visual information not readily intelligible to general readers/viewers. – Sca (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp and Sca: To explain this: this is a method of analyzing protein shapes that was vitally important to working out the structure of DNA; it's included in any decent history of science book covering the subject. Interpretation is a very specialised skill, though there are resources that will explain it to you.
- This was Rosalind Franklin's specialty, Gosling was part of her team. I don't know why this doesn't appear in either of their articles. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 00:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, per above. – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- The nom version is not a good copy, it is a blurred version of the original Here and Here. The second link says there is a 1500 x 1644 pixel available. I would support if a non-blurred version of the original is nominated. I disagree with the EV comments/votes above. Bammesk (talk) 19:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would also support a better-quality copy. I've seen this photo elsewhere; I believe it's at least moderately famous. Moonreach (talk) 20:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ditto. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 17:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Bammesk; @Adam Cuerden; @Moonreach: I have uploaded a higher quality one from the King's College London archives. Why? I Ask (talk) 04:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would also support a better-quality copy. I've seen this photo elsewhere; I believe it's at least moderately famous. Moonreach (talk) 20:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- User:Why? I Ask, I am leaning to support. Is there a source link for the latest upload? Could you put the link on the image page please. If not, then perhaps a home-page link to King's College Archives or something like that (pointing to where the image came from). Bammesk (talk) 04:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bammesk: Sure thing! Just did! Why? I Ask (talk) 04:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support – high resolution, and compared to other copies seems to be essentially 180 degrees rotated, which is fine. Bammesk (talk) 04:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- User:Why? I Ask, I am leaning to support. Is there a source link for the latest upload? Could you put the link on the image page please. If not, then perhaps a home-page link to King's College Archives or something like that (pointing to where the image came from). Bammesk (talk) 04:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support: The above votes "I don't get it" and "not readily intelligible to viewers" do not hold any merit. This is described by the BBC as a candidate for the most important photo ever. I have uploaded a higher-quality edition from the King's College London Archives as well. Why? I Ask (talk) 03:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support - Thanks for finding a better copy. Moonreach (talk) 20:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The new upload was introduced very late. If this nom doesn't pass I suggest re-nominating the image later. Bammesk (talk) 16:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 19:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- Quality lead image, represents the subject of the article well. Has been a stable lead image for 5 years. By notable photographer Jack Delano. FP on Commons.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Industrial society
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Others or Vehicles/Land
- Creator
- Jack Delano, edited by Yann
- Support as nominator – Bammesk (talk) 02:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 03:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Yann (talk) 09:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 11:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Chicago and Northwestern railroad locomotive shop fsac.1a34676u.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 02:56, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High-quality image (3,264 × 2,448) that has solid EV. The structure and damage seen here is directly mentioned in the article (Tornado outbreak of January 12, 2023#Selma, Alabama): “
Reaching high-end EF2 strength, the tornado struck the Crosspoint Christian Daycare along Cooper Drive, inflicting severe structural damage to the building, which sustained collapse of its roof and several brick exterior walls. At the time of the tornado, 70 children were inside the daycare along with staff workers. One baby received a minor cut from the tornado, with no other injuries occurring at that location.
” Seeing the damage itself is solid EV. Passes all criteria points. - Articles in which this image appears
- Tornado outbreak of January 12, 2023
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Natural phenomena/Weather
- Creator
- National Weather Service, uploaded by WeatherWriter
- Support as nominator – The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose An Uninteresting image not really adding value to the article. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- If I may ask Charlesjsharp, could you explain how the image does not really add value to the article? Maybe the image should be changed in the article if you feel it is not valuable, hence why I’m asking if you could explain it a little more. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. I just Googled selma tornado and many more interesting images showed up, some of EF3 damage. There are more interesting images of the EF2 Daycare damage too. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Googled images are not free-to-use images. This is the only free-to-use damage photo of the daycare as it was taken by the U.S. government. Do you have any other more interesting free-to-use photos that are better and more interesting to the article? Given there is a free-to-use photo, absolutely no non-free media is allowed of the daycare (per WP:NFCCP criteria 1). So, that does bring up the question on if there is actually any other free media that would be “more interesting” or more valuable to the article, or is this image, indeed, the most valuable damage photograph, since it is free-to-use? Also a P.S., the tornado itself was rated EF2, so any EF3 damage is not this tornado and is some other tornado/other article. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. I just Googled selma tornado and many more interesting images showed up, some of EF3 damage. There are more interesting images of the EF2 Daycare damage too. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- If I may ask Charlesjsharp, could you explain how the image does not really add value to the article? Maybe the image should be changed in the article if you feel it is not valuable, hence why I’m asking if you could explain it a little more. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment iPad photo of rather low resolution (only 3,264 × 2,448 pixels). Dull light. Quality issues involving artifacts at the Bottom and low level of detail. Noisy sky. Damaged building but not so different from a house being demolished in some construction site. -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Withdraw – per WP:SNOW. Clear this image will not pass FPC, with the sole opposition reasonings being (1) not valuable to the article and (2) better non-free images exist. F me, no wonder tornado damage photos can’t easily be FPs…The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 02:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 06:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Reason
- High quality image that shows the important features of the musical instrument. Professionally shot.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Pipa
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
- Creator
- Metropolitan Museum of Art
- Support as nominator – — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Vinícius O. (talk) 21:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 05:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 20:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support – Moonreach (talk) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Pipa MET DP216710.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)