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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 13:19, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No appearances yet for Penang F.C., as he just joined them and new season is yet to start; his previous clubs were not WP:FPL BlameRuiner (talk) 09:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:27, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:27, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Article states that he "plays as a defender for Penang F.C. in the Malaysia Super League". This meets WP:NFOOTBALL as the Malaysia Super League is a listed league at WP:WPF. The notability guideline states Players who have played, and managers who have managed, in a competitive game between two teams from fully professional leagues will generally be regarded as notable. - which he meets. ~RAM (talk) 10:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And, as I stated on your talk page, he is joining Penang in 2021 so, unless he has access to a time machine, it's literally impossible for him to have played in the Super League. Spiderone 10:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/draftify - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL; he has never played in a senior international fixture nor has he ever contested a football match between two sides playing in a league listed at WP:FPL. "Plays as a defender for..." is just a typical wording that we use to start an article on a footballer. We would use it even for a footballer who hasn't made an appearance for said club yet. However, since Ram has stated that it's ambiguous/confusing language, I have reworded it to avoid confusion. Any suggestion that he will definitely play for Penang is a clear violation of WP:CRYSTAL. With the state of the world at the moment, we have no idea if the 2021 Super League will even go ahead let alone whether Cheng will get any playing time. These three sources all show that he fails NFOOTBALL [1] [2] [3]. I can find no sources saying that he passes it. Spiderone 10:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 10:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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