User talk:Phoenix-Five

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List of County-Designated Highways in Michigan

Regarding your addition to List of County-Designated Highways in Michigan,

In Grand Traverse, Benzie, Leelanau, Kalkaska, and Antrim counties, as well as the highways listed above, there are other county highways without the letter prefix. These highways are unsigned, and are numbered as 6__ numbers. For example, Garfield Road in Grand Traverse County is labeled sometimes as County Road 611, and Cherry Bend Road in Leelanau County is labeled sometimes as County Road 633.

What you described are standard primary county roads. Officially, if a roadway isn't part of a state highway or under the maintenance of a city or a village in Michigan, it's a county road. Those are then classified as either a primary CR or a local CR. In years past, primary CRs were all numbered across the state using a grid scheme that repeated. Across the UP, for example, Luce County has county roads in the 100s, Marquette County uses numbers in the 400s, 500s and low 600s, and Gogebic County has numbers in the 200s and 500s, at least. Signing practices have varied over the years as counties. Some counties consistently use the numbers on signs, and others don't. Leelanau does sign some CRs with their numbers; Cedar Road is CR 651, complete with signs in places. Imzadi 1979 → 17:39, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates

Hi, how did you search for the coordinates for Arbutus Lake (Grand Traverse County, Michigan)? The template was complaining about the fact that you tried to input minutes and seconds >60 for the latitude. Jarkeld (talk) 00:17, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Photo uploads

I would suggest a large dose of caution before you upload any more photographs. I looked through your contributions to Commons, and it appears that 13 out of the 15 images you uploaded all came from other websites. It's a simple matter to input a URL for a photo on Commons into http://images.google.com/ to find the websites where they originated. As a general rule, unless a news website like http://www.mlive.com/ or the Traverse City Record-Eagle is reusing a photo already hosted at Wikimedia Commons, their photos are going to fall under copyright protections. That means it would be a violation of copyright to upload one of their photos to Commons, and it would be a major issue for you to claim credit and release it under a CC-BY-SA license. You could even be sued for misrepresenting their work as your own.

The other two images you uploaded are text logos. The TCAPS logo is definitely too simple to meet the threshold of originality to sustain a copyright because it's just text. The Village of Kingsley logo is closer to the borderline. I've changed the file description pages to properly credit the school district and village as the creators and source of those logos. Don't ever claim credit as the creator and source of someone else's work again. Imzadi 1979 → 02:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Official Flag"

Do you have a source that shows that image as the official flag of the city?

As a secondary concern, I've already warned you before about two major legal issues with your image uploads, but it seems that I'll have to reiterate those concerns. The first is uploading images that have a copyright attached. The purported flag is on a website that bears a copyright notice at the bottom. Unless you have a source that says it has been licensed under the CC-BY-SA 4.0 license you used in uploading it to Wikimedia Commons that image has a copyright. Commons cannot host images under copyright. You can upload them directly to the English Wikipedia if you follow WP:NFCC, a set of specific rules on non-free content. The second issue is that you're uploading them in such a way as to imply you are the creator of the image in question. ("Source Own work".) If you are not the creator, that's a major issue.

Unless and until you can understand these principles, you should stop uploading images that you have not personally created with your own camera or drawn yourself. Imzadi 1979 → 18:44, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of List of mayors of Traverse City, Michigan

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Nomination of List of mayors of Traverse City, Michigan for deletion

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Traverse City, Michigan

FYI. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:08, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please come and defend your list List of mayors of Traverse City, Michigan. Thank you. --RAN (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An appropriate neutrally worded notice already is above (posted by the user who started the discussion). If Phoenix-Five wants to comment on the discussion, he/she is already aware of it. Coming here to tell him/her to "defend your list" is pretty blatant WP:CANVASSING--Rusf10 (talk) 01:25, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Phoenix-Five/sandbox

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Unused highways in Michigan

Please don't restore that listing again. Many of the entries you listed don't meet the definitions, or they had inaccuracies. Additionally, we should not be citing self-published sources. Once those issues are removed, we're back down to the core list that's in the national listing, and that's not enough to establish a stand-alone list for Michigan. Imzadi 1979 → 00:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of county roads in Grand Traverse County

I have redirected that to the county article. Many of those roadways are not signed, and frankly, we don't need such lists because the roads within them are not notable (under WP:GNG and other tests). Adding such a list just adds to the maintenance burden for the Michigan Highways Task Force (aka basically me). Let's stick to just the state highway system and the County-Designated Highways plus select roads which pass the GNG. Imzadi 1979 → 22:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about Rod Maxson

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CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An Award for You

	Promotion of the place where people describe where they live by pointing to a spot on their hand award
	For all your great work promoting articles about this Great Lakes state. Parenthetically, it is possible to configure your hands (left hand palm facing toward you – extend thumb, fold in ring and baby fingers) to do a fairly good rendition of both peninsulas. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:33, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michigan Highways

Chris Bessert is well regarded in various circles, but his website Michigan Highways has not been accepted for use as a source in our articles. Under our policies and guidelines, self-published sources are largely considered inappropriate for use unless specific exceptions apply. He's never been judged to meet those exceptions, but the site is still interesting for further reading. As a result, we don't include links to his site in footnotes, but we do list it in the external links section.

In short, I agree with the removal of your addition to M-113 (Michigan highway) unless you can produce different sources, say from local newspapers, to support that information. If so, please bring it to the talk page so we can massage the presentation to conform to our Manual of Style and other guidelines. Imzadi 1979 → 22:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I will caution you against citing this website, as you just did at Traverse City, Michigan. Imzadi 1979 → 23:57, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused highways in Michigan, again

According to the way the lead of list of unused highways in the United States is worded, we would only be listing highway segments that were not used for the purpose for which they were built. This would not include previously used segments of highway. Your listing has 18 examples, and the Cadillac, Escanaba, Grayling, Manton, Midland, Montague, New Buffalo, Ontonagon, Osceola County, South Range, Williamsburg and Yuba examples were all formerly in use. That does not leave enough examples for a stand-alone list. Please do not restore a separate list for Michigan. Imzadi 1979 → 12:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The usual guideline for a stand-alone list is 10 entries, so the 6 we'd have for Michigan isn't enough. I've copied a few of the additional ones that weren't in the national list there, but please read the advice above about not trying to list some of the ones you were adding. Otherwise we'd have hundreds, if not thousands, of bypassed road segments and bridges to list, yet all of these were put into use original, so they aren't "unused". Imzadi 1979 → 16:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop guessing when you make additions to List of unused highways in the United States. Do you have any sources that indicate a freeway extension between that interchange and I-94 in Detroit? If not, you should not add your personal suppositions into a Wikipedia article.

As I've noted before, that list isn't for previously used highway segments that are no longer used. Otherwise, as I've said before, we'd have thousands of entries to add. Imzadi 1979 → 18:23, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

M-58 and M-115

I just made dummy edits to note in the edit history why I reverted your edits to M-58 and M-115. Michigan doesn't observe any rules regarding the number of digits in a state highway number. Two-digit numbers do not have any significance over three-digit numbers when it comes to the non-Interstate/non-US Highways (aka the "M"s). So the fact that M-58 is the shortest two-digit M and M-115 is the longest three-digit M is purely trivia. Additionally, you should know that according to WP:LEAD, we should not be adding any information to the lead section of an article that's not present someplace else in the article. Imzadi 1979 → 12:54, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flatlist

Please stop making those changes. The list of counties in the infobox should be a comma-separated list, not a bullet-separated list. Imzadi 1979 → 19:49, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Something of help

There is a project you could do that would be of immense help right now. For every photo used in a Michigan highway or county road article, they should each be tagged with {{USRD|state=MI|class=file}} on the File talk: page. So for example, File:M-1 at I-696.jpg appears on M-1 (Michigan highway), and File talk:M-1 at I-696.jpg has been tagged. (This works even if the file is actually on Commons and not on the English Wikipedia.)

If the photo shows an Interstate Highway, add |type=I, and if it shows a US Highway, add |type=US. In the rare event it shows both, use |type2= for the second type. If it's a county road, use |state=MI-CHTF instead. The banner template is being updated to track photos that haven't been used on P:MISH yet so I that schedule selected photos more efficiently in the future. Imzadi 1979 → 22:43, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Phoenix - would love to find more about your history/search about Bass Lake. I own the 2nd largest island - would love to talk about your research. Thom Greene thom@gpdchicago.com :) TGreene66 (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

October 2018

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Traverse City West Senior High School, you may be blocked from editing. Please add the published source you paraphrased this from John from Idegon (talk) 22:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of List of state trunkline highways in Michigan serving parks

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To follow up, I'm unsure why you created that list. I know that Utah has a similar list, but in their case, the individual state routes don't have separate articles. We don't have any external sources grouping these highways together for Michigan, no pattern to numbering them, etc. Without that, there isn't a premise for the scope of the list, and it shouldn't exist on Wikipedia. Imzadi 1979 → 05:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of state trunkline highways in Michigan serving parks for deletion

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August 2019

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Central High School (Traverse City, Michigan). This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. John from Idegon (talk) 02:08, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 2019

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Traverse City Area Public Schools

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December 2019

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Traverse City, Michigan. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Imzadi1979, can you help with this? Page move at Turtle Creek Stadium. I doubt P5's reasons for moving this are policy based, but in any case, the move needs to be undone so he can start an RM if he desires. I'm not active enough in sports related things, but I do not believe just the sale of a naming right is enough for a page move. Thnks. John from Idegon (talk) 22:50, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Personally, I wouldn't move it back. When things change names like that, we look to see what sources call it after the change. Since they're using the new name, so should we. It's a similar concept to how we treat transgendered individuals. I also wouldn't call it disruptive to change references to the new name either. Imzadi 1979 → 00:53, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2020

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Central High School (Traverse City, Michigan). John from Idegon (talk) 21:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I am at a loss here. You've been here doing exactly what you are doing now for going on TWO YEARS with no improvement. You've clearly got some sort of local bias that you cannot seem to get past. Additionally, you seem incapable of viewing the article as a whole. Stop making up section headers please. It isn't helpful. You've yet to come up with anything that cannot be covered very well using a more standard approach to laying out the article. And when you add something to existing copy, integrate your copy into it in a logical fashion (in prose, that's almost always chronological). Please do not make me take you to a noticeboard. WP:NOTENGLISHCLASS is a shortcut that should link to the appropriate subsection of WP:NOT, a pillar policy. It doesn't. Please read WP:CIR. When the edits you make are continually reverted for the same reasons over and over and you make no effort to approach your editing differently; nor make any effort at self-improvement by utilizing assets like the TEAHOUSE, it certainly applies. It doesn't have to. It's up to you. John from Idegon (talk) 22:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

Your addition to Marquette, Michigan has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. You've uploaded multiple Michigan city symbols claiming copyright for yourself. How is it you own the city flags and logos of multiple Michigan cities? You are breaking the law and lying. Everyflag, seal and or logo you've uploaded over your lies must be removed from commons immediately. The operant policy is WP:NFCC and Commons does not host fair use images. Not to mention you must license the image correctly. I will be asking for an indeff block for you for WP:CIR unless your next edits are undoing all these copyright violations, followed by a post to either the Teahouse or a mentor asking for help with NFCC files. You've been here nearly two years and have never made an edit that didn't need repair. It's time to figure it out or get out. John from Idegon (talk) 14:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Traverse City, Michigan

The Mayor's home page may be on the topic. "Traverse City Increases Protection at Upcoming LGBT Events". Channel 9: WWTV "9 & 10 News" (CBS). June 13, 2016. Retrieved June 25, 2020. Troutman, Matt (June 25, 2017). "Editor's choice: Organization listed as hate group". Traverse City Record-Eagle. Retrieved June 25, 2020. too is an article. 14:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC) Wildman, Nicole (March 27, 2014). "Marriage equality in Michigan: Court case could grant gay couples equal rights - Investigative Article Glen Arbor Sun (Posted by editor)". Retrieved June 25, 2020. 7&6=thirteen (☎)

I would venture to say that the sourcing issue has been resolved. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would add that a single source is really all that's needed. Sometimes, less is more. Imzadi 1979 → 00:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would also add that one needs to be more careful. On further inspection, none of those sources mention that he was elected in 2015 nor that he was the first. They were also very sloppy, copying non-citation commentary text from 7&6's comments above into the footnote, among other bad things. Imzadi 1979 → 01:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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M-137

The GTCRC source you used doesn't actually establish that M-137 was decommissioned. It's a resolution accepting jurisdiction. The next step is a negotiation between the GTCRC and MDOT over the terms of the actual transfer and then the execution of a memorandum of understanding between the two agencies. Usually there are some financial details to be finalized related to PA 51 funding or even a one-time payment from MDOT to the local agency in lieu of improvements. When M-108 in Mackinaw City was decommissioned, the village and Emmet County made MDOT rebuilt the entire roadway before transferring it. When Bus. US 41 in Marquette was decommissioned in 2005, the city received money from MDOT to do future reconstruction on the roadway after the transfer was finalized.

Once the MoU is signed, that's when jurisdiction transfers. So in short, until MDOT announced it earlier this month, it didn't actually happen yet, so the June resolution doesn't mean what you think it meant.

Also, you removed a whole paragraph from the article of information that was still relevant that should not have been deleted. Imzadi 1979 → 21:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I have no idea where you're getting June 1. The press release says beginning of that month, but it doesn't specify a date, so absent the MoU, don't try to guess the date. Imzadi 1979 → 21:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So according to the minutes from the GTCRC, the commission's manager wasn't even authorized to sign the MoU to accept jurisdiction from MDOT until June 17, 2020. Imzadi 1979 → 22:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Additions to List of geographic portmanteaus

You made some great additions to this list. I particularly like the border road additions. I'm sure there are many others out there but they're hard to find. One thing though, I took the liberty of moving the entry for Wahjamega to the List of geographic acronyms and initialisms. That's a list I compiled at the same time as the portmanteau list and Wahjamega fits in there better. It's somewhat arbitrary what names goes in which list, but since that name was composed of three people's initials, it's a much better fit. Great find, though. Keep up the good work! Dtilque (talk) 12:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marquette Area Public Schools moved to draftspace

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Bingham School

Hello Phoenix-Five, You listed a Bingham School that closed in 1982 at 375 Wilson Street in the Alpena Public Schools article. Bingham School (Alpena, Michigan), also is a Bingham School closing in 1982 but gives the address as 555 South 5th Avenue. I've linked the closed school in the table to the article on the school but the different addresses have me puzzled. Gab4gab (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You might want to see MOS:INFOBOXFLAG, which says not to use flag icons in infoboxes. Imzadi 1979 → 11:01, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Grand Traverse Bay pronunciation

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Seeing no objection or reply, I will make the change myself. Thomprod (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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National Cherry Festival edit

It looks like you forgot to finish an edit on that article. Look just above the Gerald Ford paragraph. Mapsax (talk) 00:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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not mentioned on the target page. possibly Emerson, Michigan might be a better target.

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