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RfA candidate S O N S% Ending (UTC) Time left Dups? Report
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No RfXs since 00:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC).—cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online

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Another random email query

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Any thoughts as to why Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Approved isn't triggering the bot email notice? Not the end of the world but I realised it's been getting skipped. Primefac (talk) 00:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac, sorry, I can't see any errors related to that. I could understand if random pages were occasionally skipped, that would just be an issue with timing, but not one page being consistently skipped. Next time, can you check if the page shows up on the raw watchlist feed? — Qwerfjkltalk 08:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, BN got skipped again (didn't catch it early enough) but one the other watched pages got skipped as well (and it's a frequent not-getting-emailed candidate)
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Just looking at AnomieBOT's contribs, the /Approved edit was made before the main BRFA edit, so it's not a race condition issue like I was initially thinking. There are a few talk-page-of-subpages that didn't show up either (and the archiving of WP:AN also seems to be getting skipped) but those might be one-offs. Of the pages I know it's not emailing me about, BN, AN, and the /Approved page are consistently on that list.
Don't get me wrong, I am pleased as punch that this tool exists and has what appears to be a 90+% success rate. I can live with not having every edit in my emails, but BN and AN are two of the boards I really want to keep in my sights, which is why I'm constantly bugging you about it :-p Primefac (talk) 12:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, I'm on holiday right now, but I'll have a look in a few days. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, no rush. Primefac (talk) 15:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, okay, looking at this now. /Approved doesn't seem to show up on your watchlist feed, which is strange. This might not be my fault after all.
Looking at the logs AN shows up, as does BN, so I dont know why you wouldn't be getting emails for either of those. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weird. There was one point a year or so back where I wasn't getting any emails about WP:A/R/M being changed (bot or otherwise), and we guessed it might be due to the size of my watchlist itself (which is >5000 pages). Maybe it's time to prune things down again. Primefac (talk) 18:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know if you're still away, but the bot seems to be down; haven't gotten any messages in a few days. Primefac (talk) 10:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, should be fixed now. There was a little typo in the code. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 10:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bare URL tags

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These aren't very useful. The time spent doing this would be better spent using WP:REFILL to fix the problem rather than telling other people to do it. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ianmacm, I also manually fill out bare URLs, typically PDFs that can't be done with refill. It takes no time at all for me because I'm using a script. I think it's more helpful to have an accurate count of the number of bare URLs and to have them flagged in articles so editors know to fix them. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but your reply didn't make any sense at all. All you did was reword his statement of the problem you're creating, except you actually said you think it's inexplicably better to count problems than to fix them. In other words, WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. WP:SOFIXIT. Stop running a script to tag bare URLs instead of simply running the script that fixes them. Why on earth would anyone do that? That's a rhetorical question. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did.[1] I see you're one of those super cool bot makers, and I've seen another bot that can automate citation formatting, so can you just have a bot scan for bare urls and another try to fix them? Thank you very much. — Smuckola(talk) 20:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Smuckola, the bot for fixing bare URLs is Citation bot (and it is limited in what it fixes). The problem with almost all automated means of filling out bare URLs is that they are inaccurate, often very badly, because they abuse metadata fields. PDFs typically can't be filled at all. So whilst I could run something like ReFill automatically, it would likely cause more problems than it fixed. This means that at best I can fill bare URLs semi-automatically, which is what I do - alongside tagging them, which is much easier to do. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did. That's the whole point, to draw attention to this issue. Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixing bare URLs is a job and appreciated. Some possible old threads of interest, you may already know about:
-- GreenC 20:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are interested, take a look at Help:VisualEditor#Editing_references. Hope it helps. AmritR012 (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Jimbob54 (22:50, 16 August 2024)

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just a hi Jim is great --Jimbob54 (talk) 22:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what

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are you the bot account or bot owner? I'm confused. Ieditwikiepdia (talk) 19:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the human account. User:Qwerfjkl (bot) is the bot account — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Talk at WT:SD

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I have opened a discussion on the talk page for short descriptions to form a consensus on some aspects of short description formatting. Your input would be greatly appreciated. -1ctinus📝🗨 22:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect listed at Redirects for discussion

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A redirect or redirects you have created has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18 § WP:SD until a consensus is reached. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Mick Lauer

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Information icon Hello, Qwerfjkl. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Mick Lauer, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #641

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2024-08-19.

Discussions

  • Open request for adminship:
  • New requests for permissions/Bot: Bot5958 1b - Task: Infer of TV series, seasons, and episodes from vertically adjacent levels.

Events

  • (Save The Date)
    • Wikidata Days Bologna - November 8 - 9, 2024. Dario Nobili Library (CNR). A conference dedicated to the Italian-speaking Wikidata community, with a focus on libraries and research.
  • Ongoing
    • Like Soccer? Did you know the Uganda Wiki Soccerthon 2024 is still running and aims to create over 300 Wikidata items on Ugandan clubs, players, coaches, leagues, associations and leagues related to Ugandan soccer.
  • In case you missed it...
    • Catch up on all the Wikimania 2024 sessions with these YouTube replays. Or check the Eventyay schedule for recordings of individual sessions linked to each item.

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Anvesha is a drill-down browser for any Wikibase installation (incl. Wikidata). A prominent example of it in use is the Wikidata Walkabout.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Wikidata: For Developers - We have a shiny new portal for developers wanting to build applications using Wikidata's data. Visit it for inspiration with showcase examples, resources, information and support.

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • QuickStatements Community Consultation, until August 31st
  • Wikibase REST API: We are continuing to improve error messages and handling.
  • Wikipedia and co: We are working on moving the Wikidata Item link out of the sidebar (phab:T66315)
  • Wikidata Query Service graph split: The WMF Search Platform team is setting up the servers for the split graphs. We hope to have them ready for use soon. We also prepared the constraints checks for this.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Weekly Tasks

What's Verifiable & Reliable sources and what's not?

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Hi! I have a very confliction feelling about Verifiability & Reliable sources. I know that that social media/User-generated content, aren't reliable or verifiabile sources and are mostly "unacceptable" (even though that's Hipocrisia and Wikipedia itself are a User-generated content website). Can you explain me, how some Web series/shows such as "The Amazing Digital Circus", "Hazbin Hotel" or "Lackadaisy" and it's Wikipedia articles are even acceptable. The Web series and shows that (originally) appeared on a "User-generated content" platform that would be by Policies and guidelines of Wikipedia have been "unacceptable". Does those topics are exeption to the principle?

77.65.108.117 (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

77.65.108.117, because the articles are about the topics - the sources they use should not be user-generated. Wikipedia is also considered an unreliable source, and shouldn't be used as a reference. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Joewilson55555 on User:Joewilson55555/sandbox (21:47, 19 August 2024)

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Hi! I hope you're well. I am new to Wikipedia and I'd like to know if there's any coding needed and if so, how to do it. Thanks! --Joewilson55555 (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joewilson55555, it depends on your knowledge of coding - for example, see mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:47, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-34

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

  • Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
  • Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [2]
  • Advanced item Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the categories property of mw.title objects. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [3][4]

Bugs status

  • Advanced item Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with Talk:WP: so that their titles start with Wikipedia talk:), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388.
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Project updates

  • The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.

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  • The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
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Bare refs and Citation bot

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Try to support you on "Changed bare reference to CS1/2" with Citation bot. Unfortunately the bot is currently experiencing a high load (Toolforge). Grimes2 (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grimes2, is REFILL working? — Qwerfjkltalk 11:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but it has no batch mode (I think). reFill produces many errors, for example usurped urls. You have to check every edit. reFill is also on toolforge, so they should have the same high load problem. Grimes2 (talk) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Al3xaSp3aker

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Page: SpongeBob_SquarePants_(film_series)

Diff: Special:Diff/1236819355

Why is it saying I added in a URL?

Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al3xaSp3aker, it's saying you added a bare url, because you haven't provided a title for the URL. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Ok Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BareURLinline.js Adding " /" to br tags

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Hey,

Just heads up, BareURLinline.js added space and a forward slash to br tags on Ivanhoé Cambridge Vasusrir429 (talk) 00:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vasusrir429, yes, this is because some syntax highlighters don't recognise <br>. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good news! The trailing slash is no longer needed. See an update to the syntax highlighter documentation. It has changed my life! – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95, ah, good to know, thanks. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:17, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sign up for the language community meeting on August 30th, 15:00 UTC

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Copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Sign up for the language community meeting on August 30th, 15:00 UTC because this page is listed on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe.

Hi all,

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This participant-driven meeting will focus on sharing language-specific updates related to various projects, discussing technical issues related to language wikis, and working together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, topics included the Language Converter, the state of language research, updates on the Incubator conversations, and technical challenges around external links not working with special characters on Bengali sites.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MassXFD bug

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Hi Qwerfjkl! I am back from vacation; CFD is my tomorrow project. But I am here to report a minor bug with MassXFD: {{subst:RFDNote}} does not contain a signature, so my message at Special:Diff/1241029025 was unsigned. Thanks for all the work you do with scripts, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 08:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HouseBlaster,  Fixed. I did actually notice this, I just forgot to fix whilst I was fixing this bug. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Haha. Thank you so much, as always :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #641

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2024-08-26. Please help Translate.

Discussions

  • Open request for adminship:
    • Gwanki - RfP scheduled to end after 26 August 2024 05:54 (UTC)
    • Putnik 2 - RfP scheduled to end after 27 August 2024 23:17 (UTC)
  • Closed request for adminship: Both requests successful, welcome new admins: Mohammed Qays and Wüstenspringmaus!
  • New requests for permissions/Bot: Leaderbot - Task/s: reminds users when their rights are to expire (see Phab:T370842)
  • Closed request for permissions/Bot: Bot5958 1b - RfP successful!
  • New request for comments:

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • New AI Project Manager to join Wikimedia Deutschland: We’re pleased to announce that a new AI project manager will be joining our team next week. Lydia and Jonathan (Director of Engineering) have been prototyping in this area and recently presented their work at the AI_dev summit (YouTube link). Our goal is to bring knowledge graphs and generative AI closer together, making AI more equitable, truthful, participatory, and open. More updates to come soon!

Newest properties and property proposals to review

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Development

  • Not much happened this week. Many of the developers are still on vacation, and some are out sick.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive

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New pages patrol | September 2024 Backlog Drive
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-35

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

  • Advanced item Administrators can now test the temporary accounts feature on test2wiki. This was done to allow cross-wiki testing of temporary accounts, for when temporary accounts switch between projects. The feature was enabled on testwiki a few weeks ago. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Temporary Accounts is a project to create a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors which are no longer made public. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
  • Later this week, editors at wikis that use FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed. This change makes the system more consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface. [5]

Bugs status

  • Editors who use the 2010 wikitext editor, and use the Character Insert buttons, will no longer experience problems with the buttons adding content into the edit-summary instead of the edit-window. You can read more about that, and 26 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Project updates

  • Wishlist item Please review and vote on Focus Areas, which are groups of wishes that share a problem. Focus Areas were created for the newly reopened Community Wishlist, which is now open year-round for submissions. The first batch of focus areas are specific to moderator workflows, around welcoming newcomers, minimizing repetitive tasks, and prioritizing tasks. Once volunteers have reviewed and voted on focus areas, the Foundation will then review and select focus areas for prioritization.
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Haroldwinstanley

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Page: Peter_Pan_&_Wendy

Diff: Special:Diff/1238452595 

Apparently there is a titling issue on the page I edited which has allegedly caused referencing problems, but I can’t find what the problem is…

Comment/question:

Haroldwinstanley (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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