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June 10

User warning templates

If I were to make a proposal involving User warning templates, what would I post that on?--GoldenGlory84 (talk) 02:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

You might try WP:Village pump/Proposals. GB fan (talk) 02:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Or Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace depending on the proposal. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The proposal is in how many times can a editor vandalize before he gets the last warning template, and what templates we use depending on how many time he vandalized. Please answer back.--GoldenGlory84 (talk) 01:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

If you want to expand or change Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings then you can post to Wikipedia talk:Vandalism. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Need Wikipedia Guidelines for writing a personal Bio for some one who is notable.

Hi,

I'm currently writing a personal Biography for a very Notable American Jewelry Designer who has been written about countlessly and won many awards ( Life Time achievement award from Modern Jewelry magazine, Contemporary Design Group Hall of Fame etc.). He has also designed pieces for the Oscars, Political Figures and some famous celebrities. He has been featured in many publications (Boston Common, Robb Report, Modern Jewelry, Veranda, Bazaar among others). I don't know where to begin. Can you please direct me on how to begin and what the guidelines for a written piece like this may be. Also I would be adding some Photos.

Sincerely

Nadirhasan (talk) 02:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

A good place to start is WP:FIRST, a guide to writing your first article. It appears from your description that this person does meet the general and the specific notability guidelines. As a new editor learning how to write an article, I would suggest you write a userspace draft. I will leave more links on your user talk page. GB fan (talk) 02:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, please consider using the article wizard. – ukexpat (talk) 13:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for all of your help;)

Temp. restore of user page

Several years ago, I created a user page with various images, most of them with some degree of erotic content, to use for research. Recently (approximately six months ago), the page (User:Nmatavka/N0rp) was deleted, as Wikipedia is not a repository for image galleries with no encyclopaedic purpose. I had long since ceased using that particular page for the purpose I had written it for, as I am no longer a constantly-aroused male adolescent. The tongue-in-cheek introduction at the top of the page, however, remained. I had no problems with the page being deleted, as I was no longer actively researching vintage erotica. It is worth knowing, though, that many of the images linked to on that page were orphaned.

I am now considering creating a page, similar to the bad image list, its purpose being to maintain surveillance of certain images to prevent abuse. A good starting point for such a page, I think, would be User:Nmatavka/N0rp. Therefore, I would like to have that page restored, so I could move the gallery to the new page I wish to create; this new page would be a superset of the old one, as it would not now be restricted to erotica. Would it be possible to restore the page so I can accomplish this? --Nmatavka (talk) 05:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. I suggest that you ask for the page to be emailed to you rather than restored. You may have thought of this already, but your proposed new page would be less provocative if it contained file links rather than the pictures themselves: [[:File:Example.jpg]] not [[File:Example.jpg]], with an extra colon before "File". -- John of Reading (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

creating a page

I am creating a page for the first time as a work in progress page. For some reason the central part of the text is shaded grey with a dotted line around it. The text is not contained in this box, but extends far to the right. What am I doing wrong please? And how do I correct it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjlangton55 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

You've put a leading space, which causes words to look like this:

like this.

Just erase the space and you should be fine. TNXMan 12:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

--Pjlangton55 (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)--Pjlangton55 (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the input

Thanks for the input, you have been a big help. I have changed the lead.

No, the links are necessary. They are the only sources available for some of the information. I have used more than thiry references for the article, and instrument manuals from multiple manufactures are the only sources that provide instrument type limitations. Since the specication quoted, measuring range, is the same for all instruments, there is no slant toward any manufacturer, but instead, shows the measuring limitations of photosynthesis systems. Unique application notes provide information that is understandable to non-achedemic level people, and the stress guide is a unique compilation of reseach that brings together research from dozens of reseachers on different types of plant stress measurement, that is unavailable elsewhere. There is no charge for information at these links, but there can be a charge for many of the achedemic papers that are cited, but not linked, in the document. This is the nature of many achedemic papers.

...thanks.Quantify Stress (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I have moved it to Plant stress measurement, but don't be surprised if other users tag it with maintenance tags, or question the external links. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Jean Elliott, Astrologer

I have seen the notice on the Notice Board and wish it to be understood that I intend to edit the page. Please don't take off or delete this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.116.97 (talk) 14:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The right place to comment on this is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean Elliott. Please be sure to read Wikipedia:Deletion policy and Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. If you want to prevent the deletion, you should be able to provide evidence, that Jean Elliott is notable (see Wikipedia:Notability). If you have sources, showing this persons notability, feel free to add them to the article or bring them up at the AfD discussion page. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

consistent error in my son's name

My son Theo is general manager of the Boston Red Sox. His full name is Theo Nathaniel Epstein. But over and over again someone keeps changing his middle name to Nathan. I've changed it back many times. I have written you about the problem. Yet either through maliciousness or very determined ignorance, the name keeps being changed back to Nathan. I'm his father, for God's sake, and ought to know. He was named for his maternal grandfather, Nathaniel. If you need a copy of his birth certificate, I can supply it. I know this is a small matter. But to the family it is a bit larger. And the fact that it cannot be resolved indicated quite a large problem for your enterprise.

If anyone at Wiki would like to reach me, here is my email address. (Redacted) I'm also in the phone book.

I hope someone there can solve this problem once and for all. Leslie Epstein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.23.167 (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be a widespread problem, according to a quick Google search. My advise is to contact our volunteer response team (known as OTRS), following the guide at Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem. Favonian (talk) 15:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Erm, have you any comments regarding the previous discussion at Talk:Theo Epstein#Name? Favonian (talk) 15:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Cannot get rid of "printable" layout

Hello,

for some reason, only English wiki, and only on Google Chrome, shows the pages in a layout similar to printable version, not like the default one (with the sidebar, search box & login on top, etc.). Can anybody help me fix it?

pic: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/wtfpph.jpg/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.187.60.166 (talk) 20:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...but I believe all IPs get the WP:MONOBOOK skin automatically...create an account and you can choose a new skin. CTJF83 20:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

However that doesn't explain why the pages show correctly in other browsers and non-english wikis in Chrome. Thanks for the tip anyway, I'll just register in the meantime. The layout is just making me want to punch things.91.187.60.166 (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

HAHA....there could also be some sort of error going on, which happens from time to time...try Vector if you create an account. CTJF83 20:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Try to clear your entire cache in Google Chrome. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok, created an account. Choosing vector gives me exactly the same skin that I want to get rid of. So, the Vector skin is not working for me in Chrome only and in English wiki only. Ummm, yeah... :< — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rewqfd (talk • contribs) 20:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry...try ctrl + F5 and bypass the cache like Prime suggested...I use Chrome also and looks fine for me. CTJF83 20:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

YES! Forcing Chrome to reload by ctrl + F5 worked! Everything is ok now. Thank you so very much, people! I can now sleep well. :-)Rewqfd (talk) 20:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

LOL, glad to be of assistance. CTJF83 20:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

List of dictators in the world

I have a simple question regarding dictators in the caribbean. I do notice that you did noit mention Fidel Castro as one of the dictators in such area of the world. I wonder if you are aware of succh error if not please, let me know how come he is not listed as a dictator.

Sincerely, Jorge Troncone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.139.226 (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd guess because Raul Castro is the dictator now. CTJF83 20:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just looked at List of dictators and no idea why he isn't there. CTJF83 20:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Fidel and Raul Castro were both removed in this edit with no explanation by a user with no other edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Readded, Thanks Prime CTJF83 20:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

June 11

adding logo to a institution page

Hi, I would like add the college logo to the page 'Goverment Engineering College, Kozhikode' page. Please guide me how it can be done. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.50.66.18 (talk) 00:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Since their website doesn't seem to indicate that their logo seen at the top of [1] is available under a free license, we must assume it is copyrighted. Therefore this logo is subject to our non-free content policy and must meet all 10 criteria at WP:NFC#Policy. If you need further help, you should bring this up at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 00:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Typically logos for the subjects of existing articles do meet the non-free content policy. But to upload an image, you must register an account and have that account confirmed or autoconfirmed. The easiest way to have an account autoconfirmed is simply to make any 10 edits while logged in (even simple typo fixes are fine... try searching Wikipedia for some of these words) and wait four days. Then you can click "upload file" on the left hand side of the screen and follow the prompts. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Quote from the box at the top of WP:NFC:

"It has a valid rationale indicating why its usage would be considered fair use within Wikipedia policy and US law."

I do not really understand the comment

"Typically logos for the subjects of existing articles do meet the non-free content policy."

A rationale is a requirement. Just because it is the logo of the subject doesn't mean it automatically meets our non-free content policy. And I think this logo meets Threshold of originality required for copyright protection and since there is no indication that this logo is licensed under a free license, we must assume it is copyrighted. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd imagine it would be copyrighted, but that doesn't stop it being used under Fair Use. If you click "Upload file" --> "It is the logo of an organization", you get a version of {{logo fur}} that provides a partly-complete rationale that addresses most of the the 10 requirements at WP:NFC#Policy. Wikipedia:Logos talks about logos in more detail, and says "It is generally accepted that company logos may appear in the infobox of articles on commercial companies, but note that, if challenged, it is the responsibility of those who wish to include the logo to prove that its use meets Wikipedia non-free content criteria." Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 14:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Atlin_Gold_Rush

Could you someone to the Atlin_Gold_Rush article to the Atlin article? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Atlin Gold Rush was converted to a redirect three minutes after you posted here. Is that what you were asking for? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Dangling footnote link

The external link for the second footnote in Gunn is so long that part of it has been pushed to the bottom of the article; never seen this one before and not sure how to fix it.

Thanks, RadioBroadcast (talk) 04:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If you're talking about the Google books footnote, I went ahead and captioned it hoping it helps. SwisterTwister (talk) 04:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that fixed it. Thank you!RadioBroadcast (talk) 01:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

How can I get my article into the main Wikipedia?

I wrote the article User:Acf-jimloy/Tom Wiswell. And I was wondering how I can get it into the main Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acf-jimloy (talk • contribs) 05:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You click "move" at the top, and erase your user name, leaving just "Tom Wiswell" as the new page name, and submit. CTJF83 09:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Moving a page for advice and screenshots. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

How to complain the administrator?

See the topic name, because someone is violating my academic freedom!! --Pierce (talk) 09:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You need to be far more specific, provide links, tell us specifically what you want to complain about with regards to an admin's actions. WP:ANI is probably gonna be the best place. CTJF83 09:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. The first step should usually be a user or article talk page discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:54, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I find it hard to think of anything one might do on Wikipedia that constituted "violating academic freedom". Wikipedia is not academia: it has different purposes and rules. You can write anything consistent with those rules and remove anything inconsistent with them. Obviously there is often disagreement about whether something is allowed by the rules or not, and then we get content and other disputes, for which we have dispute resolution. But the governing principle is Wikipedia's rules: academic freedom is no more relevant than it would be in an other non-academic activity. --ColinFine (talk) 13:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Mandy Clark

Hello,

Mandy Clark, the anime voice-over actress, is not the same person as Mandy Clark, the CBS correspondent. The voice-over Mandy's Wiki page is linked to the CBS correspondent site, which is incorrect. See below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Palmer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.88.78.186 (talk) 11:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed I changed the wikilink to point to Mandy Clark (journalist). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

What's going on with Chinese version?

Excuse me, but what's wrong with Chinese version of Wikipedia? A "log in" webpage pops outwhenever I try to view it even if I had already log in Wikipedia. It's quite disturbing, could you fix it or send all user a letter explaining the situation, please? p.s. I'm from Taiwan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencyliu (talk • contribs) 14:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I just typed zh.wikipedia.org into my search address bar and it worked fine. It may be your web browser, try using a different one. Ryan Vesey (talk) 14:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

it works fine 好 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 22:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

typo in the entry

Dear Wiki help desk, I have just contributed/edited an entry but failed to capitalize the last name of this person.

Just press the edit button again and capitalize the name. Ryan Vesey (talk) 14:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't work for an article's title, as with Patrice yengo. The solution is non-intuitive: visit that article, click the down-pointing arrow next to the star at the top of the page, and select "move". Then you can "move" the article to a new title, in this case "Patrice Yengo". Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 14:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't initially understand that the user meant that it was in the title. Ryan Vesey (talk) 14:54, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

How can I delete an AfD?

Resolved

 – See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faded Horizon. --Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I just browsed the help desk archives and stumbled over the old discussion Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 May 23#How to change the title of an article? That article was deleted per consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faded horizon. However, the page created in the attempt to rename the article still exists at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faded Horizon. How can this page be deleted? It seems really unnecessary to keep this. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I think I will MfD it. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Bidirectionality of text juxtaposed with numeral characters

Ran into difficulty editing the article on M.F. Husain. Entered his name in the lead using right-to-left Urdu/Arabic alphabet. The immediately following birthdate had the numeral of the day first, followed by the month, e.g. "17 September 1915." I know that is preferred in the British date style used in the article. However, putting the numeral first in the date, immediately following the right-to-left Arabic text, goofed up the text direction. The numeral 17 got separated from September and moved to the opposite side of the Arabic text.

When I edited the numeral to go after the month American style, e.g. "September 17, 1915," then the text direction came out correctly. I'm no "ugly American;" it totally was not my intention to intrude American month-day style where it wasn't wanted. I just couldn't find any other way to prevent the bidirectionality from getting goofed up. So my question is how to preserve both day-month style and have correct bidirectionality at the same time. To avoid the left-to-right numeral being parsed as right-to-left.

I tried reading up on bidirectional text and Help:Arabic#Text_bidirectionality, but failed to understand how to input Unicode to correct the problem and got exasperated. Why does this have to be so frickin' hard? Help! Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 16:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Bi-directionality reacts in ugly ways with a variety of things, At one point Wikipedia had an issue with the vowel points in Hebrew and Arabic because of a wierd misordering of Unicode in Windows (Add a category at the end of the article and *lots* of things move around). Anyway--- I managed to get the Day Month Year to work in the article, but in order to do that, I had to move the Urdu to prior to the Hindi. There is certainly still a bug, changing things to DMY while leaving the languages in order gave the same wierdness that you had, but if I put a single letter in front of the Day in his birth date, it was fine. But it had to be a displayed letter, putting it in <!-- --> didn't work. With the flip flop of Hindi and Urdu fixing it (which certainly shouldn't be required), I added a note in the text that changing it back will made things wonky. I have *no* idea how to figure out a preferred order of languages in the article is in a situation like this, so I don't know whether this is a truly acceptable way of doing it. It is either a complex problem in the lang-ur template, or it is a more general bug in the media wiki software, but I don't know how to test this, or how to submit the bug. :( This certainly isn't resolved. :( Naraht (talk) 18:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

unusual email

I received an unusual email through MediaWiki Mail. It's in a language I can't read. What should I do, or where should I go to find the answer to this question? Cynwolfe (talk) 17:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I once got one from the hindi wikipedia, one which I have never visited. More than likely its an editor posting you a 'welcome' message (at least that's what it was for me). doomgaze (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If you view any page at a language then your account is autocreated there. Some languages send automatic messages to new users. http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Cynwolfe indicates you visited the Indonesian Wikipedia (id) 9 June so I guess that's the mail you got. There is also a post at id:Pembicaraan Pengguna:Cynwolfe. Just ignore it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. So if I click on a Languages link on the sidebar to any article, and I'm logged in, that automatically creates an account on that WP? Hm. Not sure I like being signed up for stuff automatically, nor do I recall visiting the Indonesian site, but thank you very much for answering my question. Cynwolfe (talk) 05:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It's easy to click a wrong link. You appear to know French and Italian. They are next to Indonesian on some pages. If you are curious then perhaps you can search your browsing history from 9 June for http://id.wikipedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Cynwolfe, type it [your e-mail] into this site. It's called Google Translate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Color Templates

For the most parts Wikipedia has used simple navigation templates with minimal color, such as just a yellow top for music, blue for other media, etc. However. I've seen some templates which go above and beyond that. Is that even allowed? --Shadow (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

The colors are thematic for the subject in those cases. See Template talk:Avril Lavigne#Hot pink template. There is general color guidance (not navbox specific) at WP:COLOR. I think it's OK to get a little creative when there is a subject connection. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Board of Trustees Voting

I received an e-mail saying I was eligible to vote for the 2011 Board of Trustees. I looked at the instructions here. I can't figure out how to vote, though (what a surprise). I have logins here on Wikipedia and on Commons (not a global login, I don't believe). I tried to vote on Commons (while logged in), but it gave me an error message: "Sorry, you are not in the predetermined list of users authorised to vote in this election." I didn't see an obvious way to vote from here (English Wikipedia). What do I do?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

The instructions there say: Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. In your case it's the English Wikipedia so just go to Special:Securepoll here. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Gee, I didn't realize it was that easy. Clearly, I shouldn't be eligible to vote. :-) I've voted. Thanks very much.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Foreign Language Reference Sources

I have three sources I'd like to include in an article on Kevin Stea to document a career in Italy. They are news articles but are in Italian. How do you use these sources properly? Do they need to be translated? Is there an automatic translation widget or something for foreign sourced material? Do I simply translate a bit of the relevant material? Do I include them now in the hopes that a bilingual editor can revise them later? Or do we just include them and those viewing the source can use online translators on their own? Gmccombs (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)Gmccombs

See Wikipedia:Foreign sources CTJF83 18:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the short version is that we use the same criteria for foreign sources. Short translations or brief summations are certainly welcome if someone asks for one, but not required. --Nuujinn (talk) 19:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Does something noteworthy about a group member belong on a page about the group?

This question came up on the Tea Party Movement talk page: "I'm surprised there isn't a more concrete Wikipedia policy on whether any controversial statements or views of an individual member of a group or movement can be alluded to on that group's article... when can an individual's statement be viewed as severable, or are groups always liable for a member's or leader's faux pas?" I looked briefly in the FAQs, but haven't been able to find anything. Is yhere such a policy? Thanks. Jo3sampl (talk) 19:42, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the relevant policies dealing with this are mostly in WP:NPOV. Specifically due and undue weight and equal validity. If the member of a larger group does something that is attributed largely to and has great impact on the image of the group then it should be mentioned. In most cases, it must not overshadow the subject of the article itself (if it seems like it will, then that subtopic probably needs its own article per WP:SPINOFF). If the viewpoint of the member is very much a minority viewpoint within the group then it should be presented as such, if it is actually reflected by the majority of the group then it should also be stated clearly as such, etc. per refs as usual of course. As a general rule, if they are notable and do not have their own articles then yes they should be a subtopic to the group's article.

There's also an essay on the subject in Wikipedia:Criticism. The main problem with the Tea Party Movement is that it's mostly non-centralized, and self-identification seems to be the norm. If they say they are, they should be treated as such. Unless the larger group specifically rejects them, then they should be mentioned and the rejection. Heh. I think I confused myself as well. :D -- Obsidi♠n^Soul 21:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

links with text

I am working on an article to lace on Wikipedia, and am having difficulty using the links code with text replacement. The first word of the text is not appearing. My coding looks like this: [journalist]. The only text appearing is the word "journalist".

Cystalgate (talk) 23:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If you want to wikilink to the article Music journalist, you should use [[Music journalist]], which produces Music journalist. URLs are not used in wikilinks, only in links to external sites, such as for example this link to Google. See also Help:Link. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I would also add that at the moment, if the draft is moved to mainspace in its current form, it will likely be speedily deleted per A7 as it does not "credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject." – ukexpat (talk) 16:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

June 12

How do you create a countdown timer?

I tried creating a countdown timer in Section 5, Table 4, Row 66, Column 4 (2011 San Francisco Giants season, Game log, June (6-3), 66/Score), at this site, but the cell reads “this event is already finished.” Please help...thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 22:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

See the documentation at Template:Countdown. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

add this information {{countdown |year = 9999 |month = 1 |day = 1 |hour = 0 |minute = 0 |second = 0 |event = unknown starts }}

Add in the correct numbers for the fields for example hear is a coundown clock for Christmas {{countdown |year = 2011 |month = 12 |day = 25 |hour = 0 |minute = 0 |second = 0 |event = Christmas Starts }} Christmas Starts has started. (refresh)

Unanswered question in the WP:WQA

I earlier got advice on this forum here about what to do with a dispute, and got advice to use WP:WQA. After posting the problem there I haven't got an answer since June 7. Some other user, also involved in the dispute, suggested I moved it to the admin notices or incidents section here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents . What should I do? Davidelah (talk) 00:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

COI editing guide

We've been getting some use out of this on the IRC help channel. Feel free to pass it around, if you find it useful. WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide (WP:PSCOI). Cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 00:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

sound template help

I am new to displaying sounds. Trying to use a template to show a sound file in Myrrha. I found one in the John Phillip Sousa article and cut and pasted it and edited the values. however, it is showing both the file name (ugly) and a wikilinkied title of the song (pretty). In the Sousa article, use of the template only showed the wikilinked title. How can I make this work how I want it? TCO (talk) 01:04, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

See Template talk:Listen#MIDI issue. Template:Listen#Style parameters says:

• play#: some media files cannot be displayed inline; if this is the case set |play=no to prevent the broken inline link from displaying.

PrimeHunter (talk) 01:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

For an .ogg file (as on the Sousa page) a play button is displayed. Since there is no player for .mid files, it displays the file link. —teb728 t c 01:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC) In other words .ogg files can be played by clicking on the button, but .mid files can be played only by visiting the file page and playing the file from there. —teb728 t c 02:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

computer will not start up

I have tried to restart my computer and it will not. It says I have to contact the manufacterer for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.229.152 (talk) 03:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but this help desk is only for Wikipedia. We can't help you there, sorry - please look somewhere else.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you need to take it into a repair shop, but you might try asking at the computing section of the reference desk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Umm...this is Wikipedia, not the CPU place. You need to Google or Bing a computer place, and...um...why would you come here first for that type of info??? And...have you ever though about... “...contact[ing] the manufacterer for help”??? And read what it says on the top of this page. WIKIPEDIA ONLY. I don't mean to be critical, but WHY would you come to WIKIPEDIA for your computer? Unless it was caused BY WIKIPEDIA, I really don't see why you would do such a thing...anyway, you should bring it to maybe a best buy for inspection. and also how old is the computer? maybe it just died...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 22:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Quoting a Source

I'm writing an article on a new, canon Sherlock Holmes novel and I would like to quote part of a post on the author's website. To attribute, do I simply add a source and quotation marks? Or are other further procedures entailed? Tatoranaki (talk) 04:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Here's the Wikipedia page in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_Silk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatoranaki (talk • contribs) 04:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)Tatoranaki (talk) 04:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

First, if it is a direct quote you must use quotation marks. You can reference a source one of two ways. First you can type in <ref>[www.example.com example title]</ref> Otherwise you can click the cite tab above your editing window from the templates list choose "Cite Web". Ryan Vesey (talk) 05:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Tatoranaki (talk) 05:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Signatures

So I'm new and haven't quite gotten into the habit of consistently signing my edits yet, so I get the auto-signature from the bot pretty often. Up until now, when this happened, I would normally go back to the edit in question and add a signature, since it really annoys me that I forget to sign posts. However, just now, when I did this on a WP:AfD edit, I realized that when I did this, I was also changing the timestamp of my edits, which seems like it could be seen as gaming the system or something equally undesirable. Am I correct in assuming that I should refrain from doing this from now on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bstbll (talk • contribs) 07:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

• Damnit. Bstbll (talk) 07:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It's fairly obvious what someone is doing when they replace the bot's signature with their own; no reasonable person would assume nefarious intent, so I just wouldn't worry about it. However, when you do this from now on, if the bot has left a time stamp, just erase all the other text in the unsigned message, then place three tildes (which places just your username) before the existing time stamp. If a time stamp was not left (which it often isn't when users add the {{unsigned}} template) you can go to the page history, copy the time code when you made the edit, and then place three tildes before it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Alright, wonderful, thank you very much. Bstbll (talk) 08:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

You can change the name portion of the tag with three tildes, leaving the time portion alone. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 19:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

adding pictures

Ronnie Reed

I would like to add a photo to the article about Ronnie Reed. There is a photo of Eddie Chapman (spy) in his Wiki article, but not of his Case Officer, Ronnie Reed, in t he Reed article. There is an icon called Picture Gallery, but nothing happens when I click on it. Nicholas J Reed (talk) 09:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Files for how to upload and use files. It would be particularly good if you have a photo you took yourself or one that has been released under a free license. —teb728 t c 11:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Purpose of a parameter in welcome template

I want to use Template:Welcomespam. However, I do not fully understand the documentation. What is the purpose of the 'Username' parameter? Since I intend to sign my message, this seems quite unnecessary. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

If you include this parameter, the words "my talk page" near the end of the text will turn into an extra wikilink to your talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, using {{subst:Welcomespam|Börse Stuttgart|Toshio Yamaguchi}} has produced what I intended to have. Maybe the documentation should be updated to show, what the markup actually produces when used. It would be better to know what this looks like after being placed on someones talk page. I think I am going to do this. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done I updated the template documentation to include a usage example. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Photo policy

I need help about Wikipedia policy regarding using a photo/illustration from this site:

http://www.archive.org/details/bulletinstateno00dulgoog

Some of the pictures can be viewed here:

http://books.google.com/books/about/Bulletin_of_the_State_Normal_School_Dulu.html?id=ihMTAAAAIAAJ

Would it be possible to place any of these pictures in the Wikipedia Commons images section?

Thanks Gandydancer (talk) 12:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The site you linked to says "Possible copyright status: NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT", so I believe you can upload any images in it to Commons. --ColinFine (talk) 14:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Wrong complaint

i didnt edit any of the pages in wikipedia and i had recieved a wrong complaint about myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.1.25 (talk) 13:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, there have been 37 edits from your IP, not many recently. Are you using a shared computer? Ryan Vesey (talk) 14:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

(after edit conflict:) The warning on your talk page dates from January: if you did not make the edit, it was another user using the IP address which you are now using, and you can ignore it. (As it says at the bottom of your talk page: "This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address.") --ColinFine (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict × 2) See also Wikipedia:Why create an account? to read about the benefits of creating an account. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It happens all the time due to ip adresses just ignore it unless you get blocked then you should contact an administrator...thanks.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 23:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

French Canadian

The article on French Canada needs a map. It stumbles with words to describe this area of Canada. I'm new at this, and don't know how to go forward. Do I insert a map of my choosing under the edit tab, or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk • contribs) 15:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

If you have an image you would like to add to the article , you would have to upload it first. However, you are not yet autonfirmed (see WP:AUTOCONFIRM). That means, your account must be more than four days old and have made more than 10 edits. Once you are autoconfirmed, you can upload images to Wikipedia. If you have a free image, you should consider uploading it to Wikimedia Commons, which is a repository for free media and can be found here. If you do not have an image, you can request one either at Wikipedia:Requested pictures or at Commons:Picture requests. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Nickelodeon Shows are a Problem

It seems that for all of the Nickelodeon shows, the pages, in my honest opinion, look like trash because there are IPs that are editing them and not using proper grammar or language. It gets really annoying, especially on the iCarly episode pages. I think we need to either semi-protect all of these pages permanently or have people go in there any fix all of the problems. This doesn't happen with any of the Disney Channel shows. --DisneyFriends (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Trust me, it's not just anonymous IP's. ----DanTD (talk) 16:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Wildbot Updates

I just found out that the original creator of User:WildBot may have left Wikipedia. Could somebody who is in charge of it now update the dab tag at Talk:History of the Long Island Rail Road? The only dab link at this point seems to be scrub oak. ----DanTD (talk) 16:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I removed the two other ones because they have been fixed as you noticed. You can see what I did in the history and you can fix this yourself next time. GB fan (talk) 16:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Wow, I didn't realize it could be that easy. If I had any knowledge and interest in botany, I'd fix the scrub oak one too, but I'm afraid I have to save that for some other editor. ----DanTD (talk) 16:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Large space after col template

hello,

please remove the large space between the header "Personnel" and the bulleted list in At Carnegie Hall (Miles Davis album). Thank you.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_{Share–a–Power}^{[citation needed]} 16:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the problem is the column in the personnel section. If you make the section one column the white space disappears. GB fan (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Lamont Dozier Wikipedia Updates

Lamont Dozier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello

You have prevented our edits on Lamont Dozier's Wikipedia pages several times.

We are trying to UPDATE the page to accuracy and to resemble is Biography on his web page.

Could you please help us out with the udates. Whoever wrote it added some incorrect information, it is written like a 5th grader, and he deserves something better.

Also, we HATE the photo being used and would like to substitute another one, it is a BAD representation of Lamont Dozier.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Barbara Dozier & Lamont Dozier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Napoleongrl (talk • contribs) 16:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Please go the the article's talk page and describe what is inaccurate. The best thing you could do is provide there reliable sources that back up your claims of inaccuracies. The edits you wished to add will not be accepted as they are blatantly promotional, are unsourced, and bowdlerize the article's content. The article will not ever resemble the content from the website as the article is not a commercial but an encyclopedia article. We really do want to to know what is inaccurate. Currently, a large portion of the existing content does not have sources, which is a problem, but we are not going to replace it with an ad. Please note that as an editor with a conflict of interest, you should not be editing the article directly but telling us what the problems are. Also, be advised that only one person can have an account. Your post here makes it clear that you are speaking for two people. Please also read Wikipedia:Autobiography. Regarding the photograph, please visit Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Donating your photographs. Thank you.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

As people in the music industry, you should be aware of the dangers of copying someone else's work without attribution. Please do not copy and paste content from another website. Astronaut (talk) 19:50, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Stuff not showing up for users who are not logged in.

I'm still experiencing this issue.

Someone else asked about it - but it's still affecting me on a regular basis (on various different machines). So presumably affects others. I spotted it yesterday when I went to an article I've been editing (before logging in), and it looked for a moment as if it had been reverted to several days before. Then when I logged in the page refreshed and contained the expected updates. I then logged out - without closing my browser and looked at the page - it all seemed fine. Today (having cleared my cache) I did the same (visited the page before logging in) and once again the article appeared to be the old version (older than the version I had last seen after I logged out) - logging in again updated the content.

It's clearly a tech issue - but it may mean that non registered users (perhaps only mozilla + IE8? with win xp?) get versions of the website that don't contain the most recent edits. I'm not sure who to tell - is there a techie dept for wikipedia that might like to look at this sort of thing ? EdwardLane (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I've never seen this problem myself so I can only tell you what I would try if I did see it.

• When you are looking at the article and not seeing your changes, what does the article history show? Does the record of your missing edits appear in the history?
• Did you try everything applicable from WP:PURGE, WP:NULL, and WP:REFRESH?
• WP:VPT is sometimes a better place for discussing technical problems with Wikipedia. Also see bugzilla: where you can report the bug if no one else has reported it already. See WP:BUGS.
• Check WP:BROWSER to see if it sheds any light. See Wikipedia talk:Browser notes for some discussion about browser problems.

--Teratornis (talk) 19:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I'll check those links out - I saw it again just 30 mins ago with an image not showing until I logged in. I'll leave a note here reporting any further updates. EdwardLane (talk) 22:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

You did not mention the names of the article(s) you refer to in this question. The behavior you report sounds something like what might happen with Wikipedia:Flagged revisions, although I'm not suggesting that is what you are seeing. The idea with flagged revisions is that visitors do not see the latest revision(s) of an article until they are "sighted" i.e. approved by someone with the reviewer privilege. --Teratornis (talk) 19:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

How do you add a table?

How do you add a table to a Wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.17.50 (talk) 18:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Table, or click edit to see how it is done on a page with a table similar to the one you want to add. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

If you need more specific help, describe the table you want to add, and tell us the name of the article. Note that Wikipedia has thousands of templates, some of which insert pre-formatted tables. --Teratornis (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Umm...use this (click edit to view table text):

[insert table title here] [insert column 1 title here] [insert column 2 title here] [insert column 3 title here] [insert column 4 title here] [insert column 5 title here] [insert column 6 title here] [insert column 7 title here] [insert column 8 title here] [and so forth] [row 1 column 1 text] [row 1 column 2 text] [row 1 column 3 text]] [row 1 column 4 text] [row 1 column 5 text] [row 1 column 6 text] [row 1 column 7 text] [row 1 column 8 text] [and so forth] [row 1 column 1 text] [row 1 column 2 text] [row 1 column 3 text]] [row 1 column 4 text] [row 1 column 5 text] [row 1 column 6 text] [row 1 column 7 text] [row 1 column 8 text] [and so forth] [and so forth]

OR use this:

[insert table title here]
[insert column 1 title here]	[insert column 2 title here]	[insert column 3 title here]	[insert column 4 title here]	[insert column 5 title here]	[and so forth]
[row 1 column 1 text]	[row 1 column 2 text]	[row 1 column 3 text]	[row 1 column 4 text]	[row 1 column 5 text]	[and so forth]
[and so forth]

YOU'RE WELCOME.

Recently created articles from redirects

Is there a page that lists pages which were formerly redirects, but which were recently made into articles? Thanks in advance. Neutrality^talk 20:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Not as far as I know. You might want to ask at the Village Pump where someone might know of something that would do that -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 12:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

William Willard "Bill" Sanders (nationally known political cartoonist

I am a writer and have a bio draft (semilar to others in Wikileaks. I would like to copy and past onto my users (draft) page section for futher editing and rewrite---but find no space to do that. Would appareciate help. Joyce Mary Wallace (talk) 21:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC) Joyce Mary Wallace

Click me CTJF83 21:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I have moved the draft to User:Joyce Mary Wallace/William Willard Sanders in accordance with the usual practice for draft articles. – ukexpat (talk) 16:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way ... we're not Wikileaks! --ColinFine (talk) 18:42, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Carbon fixation

Carbon fixation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

There seems to be a problem with the definition of "Carbon Fixation" and I want to edit it but for some reason I am not allowed. The current definition: "Carbon fixation refers to any process through which gaseous carbon dioxide is converted into a solid compound." I would like to change it to: "Carbon fixation refers to any biological process through which atmospheric carbon dioxide is converted into a more complex organic compounds such as glucose." I can't seem to get to the header portion of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwatts59 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The article, Carbon fixation is not protected at all. You should be able to edit it. When you go to the article there should be an edit tab at the top near the right side. If you click on it and it doesn't open up with an edit box, come back here and tell us what it says. Please also remember to add reliable sources to the information you add or change. GB fan (talk) 23:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we call the header portion of a page the lead section (or lede section). It's often the most-viewed part of an article, and thus the part that gets a lot of edits, so naturally we make it difficult to edit. See WP:LEAD#Editing the lead section. This link opens the lead section of Carbon fixation in an edit window. --Teratornis (talk) 18:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Picture on Thomas Bridges (Anglican missionary)

Can someone please help me format the picture on this page? I would like it to appear on top of the protestant missionaries template. If I place it directly above the two appear side by side, so I added spaces between the image and the template; however, when I did that the text got pushed down. I believe there is a workaround to this. Currently, I have it placed below the template on the screen, I think this is less visually appealing. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I've tried two times myself as well, but I can't get it either because the templates and Protestant box are in the way. SwisterTwister (talk) 23:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

How about this layout (copied from Allen Gardiner)? —teb728 t c 02:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I tried for an hour. I never thought to move the Protestant missions template. Ryan Vesey (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't think of it either: I just figured that one of the other missionary articles would have solved the problem, and sure enough, one did. —teb728 t c 06:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Dario Suro Images

I have a few images that I would like to add to the article on my father, artist, critic and diplomat. Please advise me on what I should do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.86.227 (talk) 23:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Files for how to upload and use images. —teb728 t c 02:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Wagner SOlar INc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Solar_Inc

http://blog.wagner-solar.com/international/german-solar-pioneer-wagner-solar-inc-targets-north-america-with-award-winning-products/

Hi,

There are some editors who keep redirecting this page to Wagner and Co. This is incorrect since Wagner solar Inc is a subsidiary, and therefore is a different company all together. I would like to stop this from happening because it is erroneous. The other link above is to a Wagner and Co blog announcing that they have launched Wagner Solar Inc as a subsidiary, which proves my claim.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossjsabasteanski (talk • contribs) 23:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I am "some editors", and when I evaluated a speedy deletion request for Wagner Solar, I determined that while that would be actionable, a more useful thing for the encyclopedia was to redirect and refocus the article on Wagner & Co., which did have evidence of notability. It's all in the article history. LadyofShalott 23:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

To explain that differently, Wikipedia does not have articles for all companies--only those that have significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The Wagner Solar article did not indicate why the subject was important or significant. —teb728 t c 02:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

June 13

Adding content

i updated the movie credits of two actors who appeared in a movie i made. the changes appeared - they took - now they're gone. did i not do something when i added the content that i should've? OR could someone have removed my changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.204.173 (talk) 00:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Someone must have reverted your edit. Maybe you failed to add a verifiable source. I can't help you much more as you haven't included a link to the page and must have a dynamic IP so I can't see your recent contributions. I would also like to suggest that you create an account, for this reason and more that I am including on a template on your talk page. Ryan Vesey (talk) 00:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Since this was for a movie you made, maybe someone detected your conflict of interest and reverted your edits as spam. —teb728 t c 02:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Bible Verses

Hello, I was wondering if it is appropriate to cite bible verses as sources in religion-related articles. For example: [2]. 184.36.9.96 (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Please consider asking this question at the reliable sources noticeboard. They specialize in answering questions about specific sources and will be able to evaluate the reliability of these verses as sources. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 01:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

In the specific instance you are referring to, the citation is necessary because it quotes the bible verse. Ryan Vesey (talk) 02:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Facepalm Thanks Ryan. I should have looked at this more closely. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 02:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Template markup

Resolved

 – It works now. Thanks John and Fuhghettaboutit. --Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I have created a template that should be transcluded or substituted into a talkpage. I want to achieve that I can place something like {{Template:Nameoftemplate|Example}} on a talk page and produce something like

This is template text Example.

Note that the term "Example" should display as a wikilink. How can I do this? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 02:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand but I thought maybe you were looking for something like {{Tltts3}} which allows you to display a template with all its paramters and the template linked (as well as a tool tip). For example, {{tltts3|sdd2|hover over text|par=Article|par2=CSD tag used|par3=reason it isn't a valid speedy}} results in {{subst:sdd2|hover over text}}. There are many variations on these templates which you can explore at Category:Internal link templates (all of these templates start at "tl" which stands for template link).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Try This is template text [[{{{1}}}]]. "1" with three pairs of curly brackets refers to the first unnamed parameter, and then the usual square brackets turn it into a wikilink. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Template coding help

Resolved

 – – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 13:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Is there a noticeboard or a place where I can ask someone to write template code for a sandbox template? – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

You might ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Alternatively you can give us information about what the template you exactly want to have and we might help you. Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_{Share–a–Power}^{[citation needed]} 10:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I don't think there is a current need (anymore), but I've been wondering this question for a long time anyway. For future reference, I'll look at the suggested Village pump : ) – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 13:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Weird page

When I attempt to move the page Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Just wanted to try it out, nothing malicious intended ;) ), I get a weird message about Image naming policies like this. Is there a problem somewhere? Lynch7 09:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Is that on English Wikipedia? I am surprised you have access to the move command at all on that page, for the protection log shows it has indefinite move=sysop protection. —teb728 t c 10:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's here. The "move" command is hidden from the user interface, as you'd expect, but if you try it anyway by using the equivalent URL, you get an incorrect error message. I'm not sure that it's worth fixing though. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, thought so. I use a gadget (sorry, I don't know its name), so I get the move option all right. I guess if its hidden from view, it shouldn't be worth fixing. Thanks guys. Lynch7 14:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

log in dates

if i go to my web site and do not want people to see me signed on how do i block the sighn in date.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.164.9.82 (talk) 13:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 13:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Password help

I forgot my password. And I swear, I really have looked high and low, and I just cannot for the life of me find the link that will cause Wikipedia to send a temporary new one to my e-mail inbox. The link is supposed to be on the login page, but it isn't there. Can anyone advise me? Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.74.161 (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

It's a button on the login page. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Uploading a Copyrighted Image w/ Permission

I have an image I would like to upload that is copyrighted, but I have permission from the author to use it. Can I upload it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpencerCaton (talk • contribs) 15:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Please read WP:COPYREQ#How to ask for permission, Wikipedia:Example requests for permission and WP:COPYREQ#When permission is confirmed. If you follow these steps, it should make everything clear. If you have any questions, please feel free to come back here again. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I recently discovered

that there is a counter that tracks articles that editors have started. I am not particularly interested in stats, but I checked me out ("Vanity, vanity, thy name is carptrash?") and I am somewhere in the top half million or so. I just noticed that an article that I started, Adolph Alexander Weinman, was in fact begun by me while I was not signed in. A look at the history shows (opinion) that pretty clearly. So my question is, how do I get credit for starting that article? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

You could post a note on the talk page, perhaps? See Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit; this kind of history fix was discontinued in 2005. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:13, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, John. I think that I will just learn to live with it. As I have with most of my other youthful indiscretions. Carptrash (talk) 21:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

transcluding userbox formula

Hi, I'm wanting to know what I have to do to my raw userbox formula {{

This user lives in the USA

to transclude it. I don't know how anyone else knows how to do this because I can't find a step by step explanation anywhere. Cheers, Tjpob (talk) 15:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, simply create a sub page in your user space like User:Tjpob/Lives In USA or some other name, then paste your code into it. To use your userbox on your page, use {{User:Tjpob/Lives In USA}} that should work. I hope that answers your question. Quasihuman | Talk 16:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

My own wiki entry

Hi I have a small profile here at Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Gledhill It cites an article it claims I wrote about Peter Mullen. I wrote a blog as recorded but I believe the blog is no longer visible to view. At least I cannot find it. The external link to the source cites an article from the Evening Standard that I did not write. No article as cited ever appeared in The Times . Meanwhile, nearly 25 years of work for The Times, two years for the Daily Mail and two years for the Birmingham Post is ignored. As are five books and countless other articles, interviews and features for publications such as the Church of England Newspaper. This Wiki entry is terribly unrepresentative of my life's work a religion corr of The Times and its focus is fetishistic in way I consider misogynist and sexist. I wonder if there is any way at all of doing anything about this? My entry in Who's Who is much better. (Am I posting this in the right place? Apologies if not.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthgledhill (talk • contribs) 16:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ruth Gledhill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please read this guideline before editing the article again - also the following section entitled Problems in an article about you. You are most welcome to suggest new content by posting on the talk page, Talk:Ruth Gledhill, ideally giving independent sources so that readers can check the information for themselves.

That blog post about Peter Mullen does exist - I found an archived copy - but I agree with you that it does not belong in an encyclopedia entry about your life and work. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Norele

Norele, pronounced No"rel*e\, n., an internet search meaning no related content and no relevancy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.244.123 (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

If you are suggesting a new topic for an article, first read WP:NEOLOGISM and WP:NOTDICTIONARY. --Teratornis (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

freemasons

I wish to add my name in the list of freemasons, please advise.Prem malik (talk) 18:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

If you are notable and someone writes an article about you, then you can be added to the list. – ukexpat (talk) 18:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

If you are not notable enough for a Wikipedia article, you can make a user page and add one of the freemason userboxes to it. See Category:International organization user templates, for example User:UBX/Freemason. Also see Category:WikiProject Freemasonry members. --Teratornis (talk) 18:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Geoffrey Chaucer

Hello, I'm translating some of this article into the spanish version and when I was seeking for some references found that there is a book for sale that includes wikipedia content. I don't know if that is legal or correct because the book, even cheap, have to be bought. Please check this links, one of google books and other of a store.

• Google Books
• Store

Thanks, and sorry for my bad english. --Mechusriva (talk) 19:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia content can be sold, so long as attribution is given. I can literally take the text of Wikipedia articles, print them in a book, and sell that book, and so long as the terms of Wikipedia's reuse license is followed, there are no problems at all. I have not looked at these books in particular, but it is quite possible to sell Wikipedia content. --Jayron32 19:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Alphascript. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Buses

Can somebody please sort out WP:WikiProject Buses, please? I can't get the box to go at the right hand side and the content to go on the rest of the page (the left). Rcsprinter (talk) 19:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

(Partial answer)

I think it is a mistake for Wikipedia:WikiProject Buses/right panel to use the {{Float}} template. That template arranges for page elements to ignore each other, possibly overlapping if there isn't room. If you go to Template:Float/doc and then make the browser window very narrow, you should be able to make the word "weapons" disappear behind the second Japanese flag.

If you want the page to have a full-width heading, some stuff on the left, and some stuff on the right, you could try borrowing some of the clever stuff from Portal:Buses, or perhaps some ordinary table markup might fix it. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

incorrect information

An article about Jewelers Row in Philadelphia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewelers'_Row,_Philadelphia,_Pennsylvania, incorrectly has my father's business as starting in 1851: "The Row is home to the country's oldest continuously operating diamond shop, wholesaler I. Gansky and Co., which dates to 1851." My father, Irving Gansky was born in 1912, came to the United States in 1923. He became an apprentis in the late 20s, and did not open his own jewelry business until the 1940s. Who can remove that sentence from the article? Paula Gansky — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.78.124 (talk) 21:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Anyone can remove incorrect info. It's best if you could source any change to a reliable source CTJF83 21:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Associated Acts

Could someone please create a Page about editing the associated acts section of bands / artist articles on Wikipedia

The whole idea of 'Associated acts' is a bit cloudy what exactly constitutes an associated act and how can this association be shown / cited to be true. I ask as I have seen a few artist pages where Lady GaGa has been added as an Associated act and there doesn't seem to be any apparent artist link or reason for doing so. Likewise this is the case for other artists too the section is a bit vague.

I tried searching for a how to or guide page about this but didn't find one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.49.106 (talk) 21:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Does Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts help? I see people overusing it too much to be honest. doomgaze (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes that helps thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.49.106 (talk) 21:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Help inserting table into template (coding assistance please)

Disregard

 – Moving discussion to my talk page for now. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 03:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Intended appearance after final implementation

Hi, first off, I honestly have no clue where to post this question. Someone above kindly pointed me to Village pump (technical), but that place just doesn't seem right. So I'm posting my question in full detail here. On the very top left of this sandbox, User:Keraunoscopia/sandstorm, is a notice of deprecation. It needs to be inserted into Template:Infobox_album/sandbox, specifically in the header11 or data12 fields (I have no clue). Here's why: album reviews are not supposed to be listed in the infobox. If they are, this notice needs to appear directly beneath the "Professional reviews" bar. Please make any necessary changes to the overall width of the table so that it fits within the infobox. Infoboxes, I believe, use ems for widths, and my example simply uses pixels, which probably won't correlate very well. If this is posted in the wrong area, do let me know. Otherwise, thanks so much for any help I can get with this! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 21:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Justin Bieber

There is a spelling error on Justin Bieber's page. It is under full protection. The error occured on the last comment on the talk page and at the bottom of the 2010-present section. It is incorrectly spelled "Beiber" instead of "Bieber". I hope you can fix it. 166.249.132.182 (talk) 23:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done I have corrected the spelling error. Alpha Quadrant ^talk 23:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

June 14

Listing on your site crashes firefox

I tried several times to load the following page and it crashed firefox every time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone

Please look into this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.134.234 (talk) 00:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem for me with Firefox 3.6.17. Have you tried flushing your cache? - David Biddulph (talk) 00:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem with Firefox 4.0.1 either. GB fan (talk) 01:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Just updated to Firefox 5.0 and it works fine there too. GB fan (talk) 01:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Zwinger?

While looking at the edit attribution page, I noticed a reference to something called "zwinger." What is that? Is it some kind of admintool that is hidden from the public, as I looked at a few places it might be (zwinger.wikimedia.org, zwinger.wikipedia.org, en.wikipedia.org/zwinger, etc.) and found nothing.  A p3rson ‽ 01:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

http://zwinger.wikimedia.org/~kate/cgi-bin/count_edits.cgi was an edit counter that Kate has provided. I don't think it has worked since some time in 2005.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed when I was looking around that zwinger.wikimedia.org didn't return a "page not found" error, but just timed out, so I wasn't sure if that was it, becuase it makes some references to SQL, maybe it was hosted on that server. (anyone else?)

EDIT - While using the WayBack machine, I found that zwinger appeared to be the main Wikipedia database dump server. Around Feb 2006, it split into 2 websites: [ganglia.wikimedia.org] and [nagios.wikimedia.org]. Ganglia seems to be a server stats viewer, while Nagios seems a kind of server dashboard. However, Nagios also has a login button (my en.wiki login doesn't work), what is that for? Is that related to the old zwinger server?  A p3rson ‽ 03:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

This may or may not be relevant, but Nagios is a system monitoring system. From the name I would guess that nagios.wikimedia.org was a server that ran monitoring software. --ColinFine (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Image reuse

I have found some very good images on Wikipedia and would like to use them in a textbook I am writing. However, I have been trying to contact the users to make sure I am free to do this under the Creative Commons Share Alike 3.0 Unported License. I am having no success when I try to e-mail them using the directions on the webpage. Could you please let me know if I need to contact them for this reason or am free to use the images. If I need to contact them, please let me know how to do this. Redheadsheb (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Please read through WP:REUSE and even commons:COM:REUSE. They should prove helpful. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 03:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Orphan Article Fixed

Would it be possible to remove the warning that my article about Trevor Clark is an Orphan, as a number of links have been added, connecting it to other Wikipedia articles. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotus1029 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

You have added links from Trevor Clark to other Wikipedia articles. This is a good thing to do - an important part of how the encyclopedia works - but it doesn't help with the orphan tag. Before that tag can be removed, there need to be links going the other way, from other Wikipedia articles to Trevor Clark. According to this list, there is only one such link, in List of fiction set in Toronto. Is this person mentioned in other Wikipedia articles? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Please, also note that the article isn't yours. See WP:OWN for more on this. Dismas|^(talk) 08:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Problem in Kurmi page

In Kurmi page , it has been mentioned as Shudra farming caste which is totally wrong. I do not know why the different writers have not reported the facts correctly. If one studies the personality characteristics, way of life of the people belonging to Kurmis , it is certainly will prove the point that tag shudra is wrong. Secondly if Kurmis are shudras then why this caste has not been labeled as Scheduled Caste or Tribe by any Govt. Another instance, one of the caste sachan means falcon or 'baaz' in hindi which is a brave hunting word which symbolises the characteristics of a brave class. It is therefore requested that this tag shudra may be removed as it hurts the sentiments of the community. If need be, wiki can takeup an independent study ascertain the facts.

Submitted for needful action pl, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.253.240.193 (talk) 07:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome to join the ongoing discussion of this on the Talk:Kurmi page.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

have year membership with pogo changed email address have forgot password andscreen name Judy Anderson

have changed email address for password and sign in name. have membership with club pogo but dont no how they can send it to me as they don't have new eMAIL ADDRESS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.235.100.62 (talk) 12:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 12:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Attempt at censorship at Korean Pop Music Scandals by an "insider"?

I am really fuming about what I read in the debate about whether to delete the "Korean Pop Music Scandals" page. The person who wants this page deleted 1) provided false orders to readers/debaters to ignore whether or not this page is similar to others that have been approved on wikipedia, 2) then established false criteria for whether the site should remain - stating that in order for the site to remain there has to be a consensus for the site to remain (it is the other way around) and 3) he adopted a "King" of wikipedia attitude openly stating that he, himself, could have already totally removed this article had he really wanted to.

This creates the impression that there are certain insiders who can dominate this site. I am soooooooooooooo angry!

I do not think his attitude is conducive to the proper functioning of wikipedia - it is un-wikipedia like. I think that this ridiculous debate about this page should be summarily ended. There is no reason for this guy to go after this page. What's his problem and why doesn't wikipedia do something about it please?! Why do people want to bring censorship to wikipedia? This is an outrage.

arlenesgrocerygirl Arlenesgrocerygal (talk) 12:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The proper place for this AfD discussion is on the AfD page here. Starting spin-off discussions on separate pages is known as forum shopping and is discouraged. The article was nominated for deletion less than 24 hours ago, and the discussion still has several days to run. When the discussion has run its course the closing admin will weigh up the arguments presented for and against deletion. The best ways to prevent the page being deleted are (a) to improve it and (b) to present brief and rational arguments why it should be kept, based on Wikipedia policies. Belittling the nominator, writing lengthy posts and using emotionally loaded terms like "censorship" will almost certainly be counter-productive. You might find it helpful to read the procedures at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion; in particular the section on "How to discuss an AfD". Gandalf61 (talk) 12:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

• Dear Arlene, have you read our guidelines on Notability? They define what can exist within Wikipedia, and what cannot. Once you have read the guidelines and related pages appropriately, perhaps you might understand better the argument that the editor, who has nominated the page for deletion, makes. There is no ulterior motive that the editor has - and most, if not all, of the arguments he makes seem very appropriate. Like Gandalf has suggested above, I too should suggest that you should continue your discussions on this issue at the relevant page. Please feel free to write back here in case you have any other issues related to using Wikipedia where you might need assistance. Kind regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 12:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Any idea when we will get our "insert signature" button back?

It's really getting irritating to have to hand-type the string to insert date/time/sig! --Orange Mike | Talk 13:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I've still got the button, and to prove it, here it is: --David Biddulph (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

It's still there for me (Firefox 4, Vector skin), between the embedded file button and the link button.. *click* --Rehevkor ✉ 13:12, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

For me (IE8 and Vector) it's between <nowiki> and horizontal line. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

• Mike, MediaWiki:Wikieditor-toolbar-help-content-signaturetimestamp-syntax should show up in general. What's your browser? Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 13:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  For me (mobile Safari, monobook) it's after <ref> ---- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 13:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

MonoBook on IE 8; nothing to the right of the "ref" button appears any more. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

MonoBook on Firefox 3.6 and everything is as it was (sign between nowiki and horizontal line). Have you tried clearing your cache? Thryduulf (talk) 14:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

• As much as I can presume OrangeMike, you could have the following issues:

1. Your JavaScript is disabled. To resolve that, please enable Java Script.[3]
2. Apart from the above, go to My Preferences>>Editing>>Show edit toolbar (requires JavaScript) and ensure that this option is checked and not left blank. Once that is done, even if your insert signature button does not appear, you would necessarily get a button that is similar to on top of the editing box. Clicking on this would get you to insert your signature in one go. Read Help:Edit toolbar to understand how the edit toolbar functions.

Does this help in any way? Thanks. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 14:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Nope; in fact, now everything but the first ("Cite") button has gone!!!! --Orange Mike | Talk 14:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh damn. Reverse the move for now. I'll search around and check out. In the meanwhile, try the same with Google Chrome or any other browser and check whether it works there. Sorry for the trouble. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 14:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on seeing the "Cite" button; I haven't seen that for a couple of weeks, or thereabouts.  :-( - David Biddulph (talk) 14:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Personal Biography

Resolved

 – Elwhitmire (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I wanted to write a personal biography about my father specifically documenting his World War II experiences. He passed away before many of the World War II books were written and his experiences were never included. He receive 2 Air Medals one for flying three missions in Bastogne, Battle of the Bulge; two para-supply drops and a glider mission. Later he received the second Air Medal for a glider mission in the Rhine. Source material would come from military records and authors such as Rex Shama and George E. Koskimaki who both wrote extensively about the Troop Carriers and each Wing, Group, and Squadron. He is not famous nor has he been noted in print elsewhere so please let me know if I may create this page.

Regards, Elwhitmire (talk) 14:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC).

Thanks for the question. Wikipedia only has articles about notable subjects. For people, the guidelines are set out at here. If you father does not meet those guidelines then I am afraid that Wikipedia is not the appropriate place for an article about him, even though he was undoubtedly courageous in the service of his country. – ukexpat (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that you do have other options, such as WikiBios. – ukexpat (talk) 14:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

amending a family tree (gif)

I'm a text-only type of person, and have no idea how to amend File:Family tree of Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley.gif to change Claire Clairmont's father from "unknown" to "Sir John Lethbridge" of the Lethbridge Baronets. This is according to knowledge that came to light in 2010, according to this. BrainyBabe (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

My advice is to contact Commons user Kaldari who created the vectorised version of the file that resides on Commons. – ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Uploading a picture

I would like to upload this picture. How can I do that? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.112.128.153 (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Why? I'm not sure why we need content like that (warning- link is very NSFW). TNXMan 14:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

deadlinked username Communikat

I'm newly signed up as username "Communikat" which replaces IP signatory 196.215.76.234 Username Communikat was registered and confirmed as accepted, but still shows up in red when signing talk edits. How to fix please? Communikat (talk) 14:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Your username is red because you have not added anything to your userpage. As soon as you add something there and save the page, your username will be blue. TNXMan 14:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Just add something to your user page and the link will turn blue. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The reason for the pages showing up as redlinks is that there wasn't any content on Communikat or talk; I've now added a welcome message to the latter, so it's not a redlink any more. If you put some content on your user page, Communikat, it will similarly stop showing as a redlink. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Similar user name

Hello,

I am using the account PM3 for years within German Wikipedia and Commons. I would like to register with the same name here. The name is unused, but is rejected because it is similar to the existing User:PME. Is there any way to have an exception from this rule? Topics edited by PME are 100% disjunct from those I am interested in. --87.162.136.182 (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

You may be able to usurp the current name, see WP:USURP. – ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried simply activating Wikipedia:Unified login? Login to your de.wiki account and activate it. If User:PM3 does not exist in any other Wikipedias (it doesn't exist in en.wiki), it would automatically create one for you (and in all Wikimedia projects with the same passwords), no need to register it separately.-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 14:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

it worked, thanks --PM3 (talk) 16:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Printing Wikipedia Pages

Dear Panel

With reference to Wikipedia's material, i find it the best way to know things to the best accuracy and details. Almost everything can be found on wikipedia and its awesome..

I have a difficulty though. I wanted to print the pages or matter for my references and carry the same for reading. But i find that there is no printable version of the topics. As a result, the printed matter is out of boundary and clustered and even out of printable zone and the matter is lost.

A request to have printable version of the same to be able to read full content of the selected topics once printed

It will be icing over the cake if this feature is made available. Looking forward for the changes.

Thanking You

KNK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.17.246 (talk) 14:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

There is actually a printable version for every page in Wikipedia. On the left panel you will see a dropdown section named 'Print/export' with several options under it, including 'Printable version'. This might be the feature you were looking for?-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 15:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

New external links false positives

I frequently get the non-autoconfirmed new EL captcha, although I haven't added any link. Is this a known issue? --87.78.55.2 (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Could you put up the diffs of some of the edits you attempted when you received the captcha? It would help to know what sorts of things are triggering it. --Jayron32 15:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

E.g. this one just now. I simply changed the caption. I believe it has nothing to do with the diff. I get the captcha even when performing the simplest of edits (formatting, typos and such). --87.78.55.2 (talk) 17:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Facebook and Wikipedia

Hello, I am a graduate student at McGill University in Montreal, QC and McGill has a Facebook community page that does not have a picture -- the school's logo. There are nearly 12,000 members that belong to this page on Facebook, and there is no way to add a picture through Facebook; it seems to be a problem with Wikipedia not transferring the Wiki page's logo of McGill. Can Wikipedia help? Bjones06 (talk) 15:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjones06 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia can't help if the problem is with how Facebook chooses to try to mirror the Wikipedia page. That is a question that you need to take up with Facebook. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The logo appears correctly on the Wikipedia page, McGill University (is it for you?). If this is not displaying correctly on the Facebook page it'll likely be an issue with Facebook rather than Wikipedia. Rehevkor ✉ 15:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Elisabeth Nordberg Schulz

Her name is spelled incorrectly (middle name lacking a D and her last name must have an U istead of an o) http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Norberg-Schulz.

When you click on her name in the article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_German_Requiem_discography

this appears: Elizabeth Norberg Scholz From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Look for Elizabeth Norberg Scholz on one of Wikipedia's sister projects: Wiktionary-logo-en.png Wiktionary (free dictionary) Wikibooks-logo.svg Wikibooks (free textbooks) Wikiquote-logo.svg Wikiquote (quotations) Wikisource-logo.svg Wikisource (free library) Wikiversity-logo.svg Wikiversity (free learning resources) Commons-logo.svg Commons (images and media) Wikinews-logo.svg Wikinews (free news source) Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Elizabeth Norberg Scholz in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.

   Search for "Elizabeth Norberg Scholz" in existing articles.
   Look for pages within Wikipedia that link to this title.

A German Requiem discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank you for reporting this error. I have fixed the spelling mistake. You are welcome to fix any similar errors yourself in future. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Harassment

This person is a former friend of the person behind the article in Wikipedia and is using Wikipedia as a tool to harass and retaliate against the person with his comments and by adding the page for deletion. Please read the thread - but we need help. If the page needs to be fixed please tell me what to do to make it adhere to the guidelines but the content had been approved prior to this person using Wikipedia for his own agenda. Please help.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shpoonkle From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < Wikipedia:Articles for deletion [edit] Shpoonkle Shpoonkle (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log) (Find sources: "Shpoonkle" – news · books · scholar · free images) This website is relatively new and not very notable to have a Wikipedia article. Its Facebook page has less than 80 fans, so hardly anyone uses the website or even know about it or its founder. Almost all of the information in this article was added by the founder himself, User:Robgrantn, with no reliable sources. He even tried to create a Wikipedia article about himself and he is nowhere close to being notable enough for that, being just a 21-year-old law student from New York. The founder is my elementary school classmate and had the audacity of unfriending me on Facebook when I tried to help him improve the article. I know he worked hard with adding all that information, but the website is just not significant enough to have a Wikipedia article at this time. This article belongs more on a Law or Website Wiki like this one, not an encyclopedia. This is not the place to promote a new company. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 14:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Delete per nomination, yet another non-notable web-based startup. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC) [edit] RESPONSE Objectively, a former classmate who was "unfriended" on Facebook shouldn't qualify as the person recommending deletion of an article. This seems like a malicious attack over a bruised ego rather than an unbiased review of content. For the record, I submitted most of the content for the information on the page not Robert Niznik. If the site needs work, than I am happy to add or change what is required. The page had been approved and was growing and improving until your ego got bruised. This 21 year old, Robert Niznik was in the Wall Street Journal, ABA Journal, and the Economist. He was most recently interviewed by NBC News about the PROCESS he has employed via vie Shpoonkle. The site is about promoting advocacy and the condition of the Legal Environment today and not an advertisement. The site and service has been in over 600 renowned international publications in less than ninety days. To my knowledge the amount of fans you have on Facebook should not and is not a criteria of notability. The website has over 2000 registered users and has thousands of page visits a day which is considered substantial. The article has citations from notable sources, its objective about the services offered, and also follows Wikipedia's guidelines. You actually wrote to Robert (see email below) telling him not to worry that the page just needed some clean up and would be fine. So because this person is no longer a Facebook friend your using your position with Wikipedia to have this article deleted? Not only is not ethical and a misuse of the fiduciary responsibilities Wikipedia has entrusted in you it is just plain wrong. The purpose of the article was not promotion of the company but to educate of a process and service that is FREE and trying to help people. This is the message you sent Robert Niznik on June 8th 2011 at 8:25: ___________________________________________________ Winson Thai June 8 at 8:25pm Report The article will NOT be deleted just because of the template. I put it there so you and the people who work for your company will know that it still needs a lot of work (heck, you did not even include a link to the site at the bottom of the page). Just keep improving the page and you can remove the template. No worries. _____________________________________________________________ We made the changes you suggested and then you marked it for deletion because he didn't want to be your Facebook Friend anymore? I am asking the Wikipedia community to help me stop people like this from using their personal agendas in this forum/site.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fierceenigma (talk • contribs) 16:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC) 

I have condensed the copy-pasted text, there's no need to copy text we can all read at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shpoonkle. Otherwise, I am not sure what to do. Wikipedia editors, likely dozens of them, will read the article and the rationale at the Articles for Deletion discussion and apply Wikipedia's standards objectively towards deciding what to do with this article. You are, of course, free to participate in the discussion yourself, but you should first familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's core content policies (see Wikipedia:Five pillars and Wikipedia:Notability) and be prepared to demonstrate how this article covers a subject which meets Wikipedia's long-established policies and guidelines. --Jayron32 16:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Also note that what you are currently doing is Wikipedia:Canvassing. This is inappropriate and very much forbidden. Please discuss your rationale for opposing the deletion in the appropriate page. Deletion is mostly based on the merits of the arguments, NOT on the number of editors voting. Canvassing is considered disruptive to consensus and can get you in trouble if you continue doing this. If your arguments for its retention are sound, you should not be worried about it.

That said, Wikipedia:Harassment is an entirely different matter from the AfD and a very serious accusation. Be prepared to back up your claims of this if you intend to pursue it. Accusing another editor of harassment is a form of harassment as well and can get sanctions against you if proven untrue (See WP:BOOMERANG). But yeah, please see Wikipedia:Harassment#Dealing with harassment if you do believe you are being hounded by a single editor with a grudge against you.-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 18:28, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Craig Dargo

An article has been posted recently stating that he has signed a two year deal with Dundee Football Club, Scotland as of May 2011. This is totally incorrect and could potentially be damaging to him. Please remove.

Confirmation can be received from Dundee Football Club, if required.

Gilber123 (talk) 16:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Craig Dargo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have restored an older version of the first paragraph. Any editor may remove unsourced information from Wikipedia articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

hey wiki .... German nationality page link that dosent work

A link from this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law

under where it says

Victims of Nazi persecution

There is a details link that dosent open for me

http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/consular_services/citizenship/persecuted.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.199.64 (talk) 16:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I have converted the link to a reference that includes an archiveurl. Goodvac (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Tagging articles

Hey guys, I am returning to Wikipedia under a new user account after a long absence, and I have noticed a few changes in the editing form. As a member of the NewPages Patrol I have to tag pages a lot, and I used to use this handy page tagging feature in an editing toolbar that I enabled in my preferences. Now it's gone, and I am forced to locate the special pages that have the tags and copy and paste the templates. Even though I now have the pages bookmarked, it's having a serious impact on my productivity. Is there a page tagging feature I can enable without using an external editor? Or a good external editor that has one?

--SuperEditor (talk) 17:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle. You must of been away for quite a long time if you've never heard of Twinkle. Island Monkey ^{talk the talk} 17:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol that's what I used to use. I guess I forgot where it was. Thanks! --SuperEditor (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Where to post

At the very top of the page I asked where to put my proposal involving user warning templates, though since no one will most likely answer a question since June 10th, i'm just going to post it at the bottom of the page. The proposal involves how many times can a user get warning templates until blocked, and what warning templates should we use for the number of times the user has vandalized. Please answer back.--GoldenGlory84 (talk) 18:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

You are always supposed to post at the bottom of the page. That said: most warning templates have a heirarchy, going (for instance) from vandal1 to vandal4 before a final blocking. They will be found at WP:WARN. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

There were 2 suggestions in response to your original question on where to post your proposal.

IMO, there is no single answer. Sometimes one edit is enough for a final (4im) warning. Sometimes, depending on how blatant it is, no warning is needed at all. If there's any reasonable chance that the edits are being made in good faith, the 4 stage warning process makes sense. If there are old warnings from months ago, I often start up with a repeat of whatever level the previous warning was. --Onorem♠Dil 18:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, be careful how one defines "user". An frequently used IP address from a public computer terminal (like a public library) or which is dynamically assigned by an ISP may get a warning every 2-3 months; meaning that one may see 20-25 warnings since, say, 2005. And yet, if the IP address is used by dozens, or even hundreds, of different individuals to access Wikipedia, it isn't one user. Sometimes an IP address can be positively linked to one individual, and then escalating warnings and longer blocks are in order for frequent abuse. An occasional vandalism from an IP address used by dozens of people, when there are lots of good intervening edits, may require one to patiently warn for each vandalism and proceed more cautiously before blocking. Experienced editors and admins know how to identify the difference between these two classes of IP addresses, and its wise for vandalism patrollers to carefully try to consider the situation they are dealing with before deciding on a course of action. Of course, if this is a registerred account, it should be one person, so there's no need to proceed with excess caution. Warn once or twice, and then report them. There are a set of "scaled" template warnings that some people like to use (see WP:UWT) but there is never a requirement that these are ever used before a block, merely that the individual person has been told to stop, and it is clear that that individual person, after being given ample warning to stop, isn't going to. You can just write a little note yourself that says "If you keep vandaling articles, like you did at XXXX, you may be blocked to prevent you from continuing". If they continue, report them at WP:AIV. --Jayron32 18:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

citations for Ed Ayres

I checked the biographical article on me (Ed Ayres), which was originally written by another person. At the top is a prominent orange circle and exclamation point noting that the article needs additional citations. I registered as an editor for Wikipedia, then entered three additional citations, as well as a little new information. The orange flag remains, however. Is the problem that I still need more citations? Or is there something I need to do to remove the flag? (It is professionally damaging to me to have the verifiability of the article appear to be questionable!)Willhumansendure (talk) 18:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

They are just maintenance templates and you are blowing up their importance way out of proportion -- this is an article about you, not your official website. In any event I have removed that template but left the COI one in place. Please use the article's talk page to discuss any further changes. – ukexpat (talk) 19:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The sources you added are also extremely vague and does little to actually verify the information given in the article (VERY important in biographies). Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners for more information on what sources are and how to add them correctly. And yes, by your admission you are in conflict of interest by editing the article, so please be extra careful with ensuring neutrality in the tone if you intend to edit it. Anything that sounds promotional will be removed and can result in its deletion entirely.-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 19:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Change a logo

How do I change the logo that is listed in the City Sports page?

That is an old logo and I would like to replace it with the current logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgaucher (talk • contribs) 20:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

City Sports (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Since it can be tricky to get the licensing and copyright details just right, I have done it for you. The new logo is at File:City Sports logo 2011.gif. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I have changed the licensing to {{PD-text}} - it's too simple to qualify for copyright protection, and I revised the summary section accordingly. – ukexpat (talk) 20:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

How To Form A Team?

I would like to form a team/ guild which will serve to make our work as a collective of researchers much easier. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawz shiachat (talk • contribs) 23:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are asking: this is the Help Desk for using Wikipedia. Is your question in some way connected with Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I would assume you are trying to create a project. I would like to direct you to the Guide to WikiProjects. After you read the first link, use this one to learn how to create your project. There is a big warning on top of the second link stating that you must read the first one before you look at the second one. I hope this helps. Ryan Vesey (talk) 23:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Hagerman

Amber's middle name is spelled incorrectly. The proper spelling is Rene — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.245.73 (talk) 22:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

If you have a reliable published source that supports you, feel free to change it in the article. If you haven't, why should we believe you, since we have no way of knowing who you are. --ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

It's fixed. See here. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

suggestion

dont know where to send my suggetions, please direct me if here isnt good... my suggestion is to enable pages to RSS feed, so that I can keep track of articles or projects and their updates via RSS. Another way would be to make a facebook "Like" button for every article / project. With so many things to keep tabs on on the net, integrating with RSS is key. thanks for all your efforts!Ilanmordechai (talk) 23:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Does WP:RSS help?

In general, the best place to make that sort of suggestion (not about content of the encyclopaedia) is at WP:Village Pump. --ColinFine (talk) 23:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality concerns

Hello. I would like to inform us that the article on biocomputers needs substantial editing on its neutrality. It reads like an advertisment on the potential of biocomputing. ("One day, biocomputers using nanobiotechnology may become the cheapest, most energy-efficient, most powerful, and most economical of any commercially available computer. Already, scientists are making significant headway in the advancement of this science.") While the field is exciting, it keeps touting on it like it's some promotional material. It also needs more in text citations, and some statements are vague, like the quote i mentioned. Can someone add templates describing how this page needs them?

By the way, I think itd be more sensible to change the name to "biocomputing."

--DSbanker (talk) 23:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)