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February 11

Pippa Middleton

Resolved

 – Lourdes

I have failed with ref number 16 on this page - Pippa Middleton Please help thank you101.182.96.231 (talk) 03:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done Please read referencing for beginners. The mistake was clearly mentioned in the error note - that you had given the same name "telegraph.co.uk" to two references. All I did was change the reference name. You can do that too the next time. Come back here if you get stuck up. Thanks. Lourdes 07:40, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Pippa Middleton

one more thing please. I cannot - on this iPad - correct ref. Number 64 on this page. The editors name is NOT Bainca - it is clearly meant to be BIANCA LONDON. please fix. Thanks 101.182.96.231 (talk) 09:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done --Gronk Oz (talk) 10:10, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

created page

Hi! I'm a new user. I'm creating a page for Elementary Season 1. Can anyone let me know how I'm doing? Maybe help me a out a little? Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elementary:_Season_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anderson678999 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Anderson678999 First of all: WELCOME to WP! What an undertaking as a new user. I was impressed upon first glance at your page. However, my gut reaction was: why is this page necessary when practically all of the information is here: List of Elementary Episodes and here: Elementary (TV Series) already. Normally when a TV series is covered on WP there is a Main Page i.e. Breaking Bad and then individual pages covering the seasons Breaking Bad (Season 1) etc. With the "List of Elementary Episodes" and the "Elementary (TV Series) already created, aren't the individual series overkill? Just curious. Good job, though! Maineartists (talk) 15:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Humphrey Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham

Is there anyone here who can sort out my refs on this? One particular one is all- you'll know it when you see it. It seems to be caused by the cited page numbers being different each time; but, I don't really see why that is so odd! Many thanks in advancio :) O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 16:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I'm pushed for time and only looked at the first 2 or 3 refs, but yes if you cite different pages from the same book it will produce the ref error if you use the same ref name. Eagleash (talk) 17:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Eagleash, I had a feeling that was it... like I said, it struck me as odd, having to change the name of a ref everytime you turn a page! Thanks though. Incidentally; the requet still stands, to those that aren't against the clock  :) O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 17:10, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Alas, the problem that others will have when they attempt to fix these mistakes is that they may not be able to determine which <ref name="Harris1986" /> tag belongs to which definition. If you are the editor who placed these references in the article, you are the best editor to get them right.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

As someone who regularly attempts to fix ref errors, trying to second-guess the original editor is indeed a source of frustration! Eagleash (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

OK, no worries, I'll do it. Thanks @Trappist the monk and Eagleash: for your help. The google ref generator makes the ref- and then reFill mucks it up! I think i'll stick to my dead-tree copies in future ;) Happy Saturday, Help Desk Helperteers! O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 17:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Just picking up on something above, (in case it's not already realised) you don't need a ref name for every ref., just the ones you wish to use more than once. So <ref>{{cite book|ref content}}</ref> if only used once. Eagleash (talk) 17:52, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Realised it was not. Thanks for that- I'll give it a whirl. O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 18:05, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash:- sorry for repeated pings- but I think that cracked it; don't know if it was cheating, but I did wot you pointed out & just went and took out the ref names- looks OK now! Thanks a lot! O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 18:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: A couple of templates you may find handy are {{Rp}} and {{R}}. The former lets you append a page number to an in-line citation (like this^[1]) so you can use one common footnote for everything, rather then typing the name a book fifty times. The latter is just a convenient way of abbreviating <ref name=Example/>{{Rp|42}}. 71.41.210.146 (talk) 21:00, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: You're welcome, no problem. In addition to the suggestion immediately above there are a couple of other methods shown at WP:REFB#Alternative systems though I'm not a great fan of them myself! Eagleash (talk) 21:55, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Study

I'm concerned Wikipedia may be lacking in areas that don't lend themselves well to acedemic study.

Is there an essay expressing this?

Benjamin (talk) 21:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Benjaminikuta, this is called systemic bias and it means that because Wikipedia reflects what's written in reliable sources, the omissions in reliable sources are replicated in the contents of Wikipedia. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:03, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Dead Links

Can You Fix a couple of dead links they to be fixed right now. 2600:8803:7A00:19:14A2:7224:84EA:118B (talk) 23:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Can you give us a little more information. Preferably a link or links to the page(s) you have concerns about. Eagleash (talk) 23:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

OK The AAC football season and Conference USA articles have dead links can you fix them now. 2600:8803:7A00:19:14A2:7224:84EA:118B (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

February 12

Valerie Falls project

You speak of the Valerie falls project being a 10MW HYDROELECTRIC unit. In the next sentence you speak of the station being converted to biomass from coal. These are @ DIFFERENT STATIONS. Valeri falls uses water as a power source. OPG Atikokan Generating Staion is the place that was converted from coal to biomass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.225.105 (talk) 02:08, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

... and? Pppery 02:36, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Done - in Atikokan, thank you for pointing this out. In future, please mention the article's title to help editors locating the problem. You can also fix such issues yourself if you like - anyone is welcome to edit Wikipedia. GermanJoe (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Pat Metheny

I'm not sure where to go, because it's not a big issue, but an anonymous editor has been doing something weird on the Pat Metheny article, continually removing and replacing the same basic information over the course of several edits a day going back a couple of weeks. The minor annoyance is that I have had to correct a couple of repeated grammar/spelling errors that he/she keeps putting in after I've corrected them, which is tiresome, but the whole editing pattern is weird and totally clogging the article's history/my watchlist. Like i said, not a huge deal, but also odd and annoying. PaulCHebert (talk) 03:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

EDITING

Hi, I made a article but then my PC died, but I pressed Save. How do I re edit that article?

TheRealAzza (talk) 03:31, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The message you just posted is your only edit under the username TheRealAzza. Unless you made the article under a different username, you didn't save it. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:35, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Did you click on the Show Preview button instead of the Save Page button?

Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)

 

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By publishing changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.

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If you didn't click on Save Page, the edit wasn't kept. Pppery 15:00, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding new celebrities name and image to wikipedia ?

Hello i am a publicist and i would like to know how to get my client whom has a popular ballroom tv show on Apple rv/Roku and is signed to Skee Lo Musik/SonyRed.i'd like Deacon doc host of the 1st and only Steppin tv show in the world step on it is the name. Can someone help or direct me on what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1:92D9:5176:1000:1B9B:AA81:76E6 (talk) 04:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Do nothing whatever. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest explains. Quick summary for your client: "Wikipedia's rules prevent this. Wait till you're famous. Then reliable, independent sources will write you up; and then other, independent people can use these to create an article." -- Hoary (talk) 05:03, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Deleting A Page

Please delete the page named as Niwada because same as another page named Niwada(jhajjar) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashu G (talk • contribs) 07:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done @Ashu G: Editor Roxy the dog has removed the article Niwada (Jhajjar) and replaced it with a redirection to Niwada. --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Not me, it was Jim1138, I was just stumbling around. -Roxy the dog. bark 10:12, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Alisa Alyabyeva

Alisa Alyabyeva (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am creating a Wikipedia page for a Ballroom dance professional by the name of Alisa Alyabyeva. I have been advised by Fred C, that he has earmarked the page for speedy deletion because there are no references. Alisa has multiple YouTube videos and Google posts on the web to verify her authenticity. Please explain how I should proceed to avoid deletion of her page from Wikipedia.

Thank you . . .

Francios Fleur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francois Fleuer (talk • contribs) 16:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Francois Fleuer, sorry but proof of this dancer's existence is not enough for us to include an article about her: we also need evidence of "notability", established through references to reliable, independent published sources where reporters or critics independent of the person have written about her in some depth. "YouTube videos and Google posts" (and social media pages) will not assist, as they may well have been put up by people associated with the dancer. Please see this advice on how to insert references.

The proposal to delete this article allows 7 days to improve the content. If you are able to find and insert at least one reference of the type I have described, then you are free to remove the tag by editing the page and deleting the top line. However, if independent coverage just does not exist yet, then Wikipedia cannot include an article about Alisa Alyabyeva until her career has attracted wider attention: Noyster (talk), 17:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Brantford

Reference help requested. Do not know how to fix broken reference names. Please help on "Brantford" and "Pangnirtung". Thanks, empirecoins — Preceding unsigned comment added by Empirecoins (talk • contribs) 17:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

On Brantford, you have tried to use a reference named "2016cma", but you have not defined such a reference. There is a "2011cma", but not "2016cma". --David Biddulph (talk) 17:43, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

And on Pangnirtung you tried to use a name "C2016" without having defined it. The reference defined is "C2011". --David Biddulph (talk) 17:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Lancelot Cooper Draft

Hello editor Timothyjosephwood has informed me that my draft article Lancelot Cooper may well be rejected because of notability issues in that all my references are primary and none secondary. I replied to him that Cooper was indeed a notable person ( see his talk page) giving my reasons and it was only because nobody had 'discovered' his historical records previous to me that nothing had been written about him. I would like to know who makes the final decision concerning whether my article will accepted or rejected so that I can plead my case Aln Taylor Alantaylor17 (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Just because there exists historical records of Lancelot Cooper that doesn’t make him notable in the encyclopedic sense. He appear to just be one of the many other career criminals of that period which will also have records documenting their activities.--Aspro (talk) 21:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello again Alan, the difficulty with the Cooper draft is that although he might have had an interesting life, he is not well known and little, if anything, has been written about him in independent reliable third party sources which is what Wiki requires. Consequently he is unlikely to be searched for in a general encyclopedia. Eagleash (talk) 21:39, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

• Pinging Alantaylor17. The fault of your argument on Timothyjosephwood's talk page is in the premise If [notability] refers to 'being worthy of being known' then.... - but notability has a very different meaning on Wikipedia, which is much closer to "is already known" than to "deserves to be known". See the link WP:N for more details.

As for who makes the final decision concerning whether [your] article will accepted or rejected, there is no "editorial board" with someone responsible for that. Some veteran editor will review your submission and either accept or reject it; it might take a while, because there are 654 articles waiting for review right now, and yours is probably not a simple decision either way (I suspect Timothyjosephwood was reviewing submissions and decided not to act on yours).

If the article gets rejected and you have a reason to think the review was incorrect, try to discuss it with the reviewer at first. You can resubmit it to have a second review if you still think they have an incorrect understanding of the guidelines, but AfC reviews rarely get overturned - AfC reviewers are usually better familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines than new authors. Finally, if an editor makes a serious breach of civility - e.g. if the reviewer declines the article with an unconstructive comment such as "that article is crap, and the author is an idiot" - you can report them here, but the odds of that happening is low. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 12:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

application to add an passport to international passport list

it's pleasure for me to contact you about the need of adding saharawi arab democratic republic passport to the list of country's passport. however this state is recognized as member of african union and her citizens access traveling through the world but they face troubles with international airlines companies which allowed the mentioned passport code. for this reason become more than necessary to register this new travel document on your wikidata and give international code to this passport to be valid travel document. once again the problem is found with the aviation companies across the world. then this country( saharawi democratic republc) (SADR) has right to included in the international passport's passport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.251.143.59 (talk) 22:26, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

We do have an article on the Sahrawi passport. It is also listed at List of passports, if that is what you are asking. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:41, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.3 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Pppery 23:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Using {{efn}} with nested references

I'm working on a draft revision of a policy page (User:Sangdeboeuf/No original research), to enable full citations for sources mentioned in the explanatory footnotes, and to reduce clutter in the source code. I've created named references as described under WP:REFNEST and H:PREGROUP (see § Notes). My problem is that three of the numbered references are missing, and one footnote (name=BookReviews) appears blank. I assume I've made a mistake in the code somewhere but I can't locate it. Any help would be appreciated. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:39, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I have a bit of experience (not much) doing this and I'll look at it if no-one more experienced wants to take it on. I suggest making another test copy of the draft and reducing it to the minimum content that exhibits the problem to make it easier to work with. Meters (talk) 23:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Done – see changes here. The problem with one note appearing blank was apparently solved by getting rid of the external links in square brackets, but reference numbers 6–8 are still missing from the reflist. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, just noticed your reply now. I'll take a look tomorrow. Meters (talk) 08:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Sangdeboeuf and Meters: I think you've run into a long-standing bug in the software, phab:T22707. You can use <ref>...</ref> tags inside {{efn}} footnotes, but it all falls apart if you try to define the efn footnotes inside the {{notelist}}. I've made an edit at User:Sangdeboeuf/No original research 2 - the footnotes are now working, but your tidy coding is lost. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Glad to have a more knowledgeable responder than me look at it. Meters (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

February 13

New Version of "Article Information"

Sometime in January 2017, the "Article Info" had changed to "Wikihistory". The original Article Info page is more concise than the new version. Here is an example using Pokémon Theme: Old Version; New Version. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 03:41, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I assume you mean the link at top of page histories at the English Wikipedia. It's made by MediaWiki:Histlegend. https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-articleinfo has been unstable for years and is currently not included there. It was removed 26 January, restored 3 February and removed again 8 February. You can add it under "Tools" in the left pane with the below in your common JavaScript. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

mw.util.addPortletLink(
  'p-tb',
  'https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-articleinfo/?article=' +
  encodeURIComponent(mw.config.get( 'wgPageName' )) + '&project=en.wikipedia.org',
  'Article info',
  'pt-articleinfo',
  'Show revision history statistics for this page',
  null,
  '#t-info'
);

@PrimeHunter: Thank you! Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 15:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Inclusionism

Is there a Wikipedia essay about inclusionism?

I know there's a page on wikimedia, but why there, and not on Wikipedia?

Benjamin (talk) 11:20, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

There is an article Deletionism and inclusionism in Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion is not a war zone mentions inclusionism. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Easy way to link to current revision of a page?

It happens semi-frequently that I want to use a WP:PERMALINK to a page, usually when it points to a board that gets archived regularly. My usual procedure is to go to the page, click "history", click the first revision, and include the whole URL as an external link.

Is there a better (read: faster) way to do it? My dream would be a substituable template {{subst:current page revision|Foo}} that goes and fetch the current revision of the page and replaces the code with a permalink, but I am not sure it is technically feasible. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

mw:Help:Magic words#Technical metadata of another page shows {{REVISIONID: page name }}. I haven't found a template which uses it for your purpose but it could be made. [{{subst:fullurl:Foo|oldid={{subst:REVISIONID:Foo}}}} Foo] produces Foo at the time of my edit. And [[Special:PermanentLink/{{subst:REVISIONID:Foo}}|Foo]] produces Foo. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Collapsing individual columns in table?

Hello, is it possible to create tables where you can toggle the collapsing of individual columns? E.g.

Show? 1	Show? 2	Show? 3
		only on click	only on click	only on click
always	always	only on click	only on click	only on click
always	always	only on click	only on click	only on click

So the headers "Show?" 1-3 and "always" should always be visible, the other cells only on demand. I wasn't able to create such a table from Help:Collapsing
TIA! --Wikiinger (talk) 14:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

No, nor is it likely to ever be possible. All the more because hiding content in general is simply a bad idea. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Scrolling_lists_and_collapsible_content. If you find yourself in need of something like that, it should make you wonder if you are writing a proper encyclopaedic and readable article or not. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:45, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Image

Diving bell with clump weight

I uploaded an image file to Wikipedia. It's in the database and now I want to insert it into an article, but I cannot access it. It does not show up on a search. I don't know how to access it, nor am I able to see other images that Wikipedia has in their library. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelSmart (talk • contribs) 18:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Your image is at File:Conventional clump weight bell system.jpg . I'd show you how to use it but that's not easy on this mobile. Maproom (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

You can use it as shown to the right. Maproom (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Alt Right

Some Alt Right subscribers are jewish which goes completely against the Wiki definition of Alty Right. I'm alt right and I'm not a white supremacist which also goes against the ridiculous definition on Wiki.

This is insanely inaccurate. Be more objective and collect data from unbiased sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.242.247.186 (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

If you see an error in a Wikipedia article, please be bold and fix it. If you can provide better sources to an improve an article, that would be great. RudolfRed (talk) 20:33, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

February 14

Phabricator

Hello! Would somebody like to help me submit a proposal to Phabricator? What I would like to suggest is adding the option "upright" to the editor surface function "embedded file" (for all Wikipedia versions, of course!). I'd be grateful for any help since I'm not familiar to how Phabricator actually works and I admittedly find it a bit confusing for somebody not on the inside – though I do think that the community could in fact benefit from my idea... Hoping for your cooperation, best greetings--Hubon (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Regarding page, Out & Loud - Pune International Queer Film Festival

Hi,

I have created a page for Out & Loud - Pune International Queer Film Festival and the content in the page is from the website outnloud.lgbtq.co.in. However, i got a notification that I have used the copyright information and the page is set for speedy deletion. But the website belongs me and my partner, and we are the owner of the website. So is it okay to have the same information or should i do anything to remove the speedy deletion tag from the page?

Sriram2792 (talk) 04:46, 14 February 2017 (UTC)