Wikidata:Property proposal/representative image

related image

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: related image (P6802) (Talk and documentation)

Description	unfitting image to be used because a better alternative does not exist or is not available due to legal restrictions. Don't use if item has P18. Value shouldn't be a generic placeholder.
Data type	Commons media file
Template parameter	"image"
Example 1	Great Belt Bridge rail accident (Q60331170) → File:DSB IC4 70 at Aarhus H.jpg
Example 2	Ethiopian Airlines Flight 409 (Q695290) → File:Boeing 737-860(w) ‘ET-AQO’ Ethiopian (18788508552).jpg
Example 3	1960 U-2 incident spy aircraft (Q748379) → File:Lockheed u 2c aircraft.jpg
See also	montage image (P2716), image (P18)

Motivation

A lot of Wikipedia articles, especially articles about events, use images that are not actually of the article subject. Jc86035 (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Comment I think it would be good to come up with another label. --- Jura 17:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Jura on the label being a bit confusing (eg a portrait is the best "representative image" there is!) but Support the idea in general. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support the idea David (talk) 09:31, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "placeholder image", "archive image", "file image", .. isn't going to work either. How about "image of a component similar to actual"? --- Jura 11:31, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: I think that would be okay. It would be better if it were shorter but I can't think of a way to do so. Jc86035 (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Related image", perhaps. Jheald (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Edward (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 01:45, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment another point to sort out before creation: what could be suitable as a placeholder image added with this property?
Do we want a notable work of an artist? (likely not, item for a notable work should hold it). Do we want the usual "no free image available, please upload one" placeholder image? (neither). For films, can we continue to add images of cast at some event in P18 (likely yes). --- Jura 11:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: I think a notable work could be appropriate but I'm not sure. I would use this property for the film case (P18 would ideally show a frame from the film, or the film's poster; ideally the entirety of the film itself would be in video (P10)). Only some Wikipedias use the "no free image available" image, and they don't really add any value to the item. Jc86035 (talk) 13:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a property for film posters (at Commons). --- Jura 12:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jc86035, Edward, Thierry Caro, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: I updated the label to "related image" and added to the description. --- Jura 03:16, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support updated version --- Jura 03:16, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support with label changed to "related image" Edward (talk)
Support related image.--Vulp here 15:17, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jc86035: If you can provide the missing examples, I can create the property right after. Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 02:08, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ederporto: Done. Jc86035 (talk) 08:10, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support There is a lot of image (P18) to be moved to this. --Epìdosis 17:37, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]