Wikidata:Property proposal/SBOID
SBOID
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| Description | Swiss ID for public transit companies |
|---|---|
| Represents | Swiss Business Organisation ID (Q131298836) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | transport company (Q740752) |
| Allowed values | ch:1:sboid:\d+ |
| Example 1 | Luftseilbahn Adliswil-Felsenegg (Q1273422) → ch:1:sboid:100162 |
| Example 2 | Renfe Operadora (Q2476154) → ch:1:sboid:100863 |
| Example 3 | Südbadenbus (Q187629) → ch:1:sboid:100311 |
| Source | https://opentransportdata.swiss/en/cookbook/business-organisations/ |
| Planned use | either import via mix'n'match or a custom bot, for operator:wikidata tags in OpenStreetMap |
| Number of IDs in source | 1889 (as of November 22, 2024) |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Implied notability | Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316) |
| Formatter URL | https://atlas.app.sbb.ch/business-organisation-directory/business-organisations/$1 |
| Single-value constraint | no — A single transit agency sometimes has multiple SBOIDs, corresponding to different administrative departments. For example, the department that operates trains vs. regular buses vs. night buses vs. replacement buses |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
[edit]External identifier for public transit agencies/companies, issued by Switzerland. Specifically, SBOIDs are issued by System tasks customer information (Q131298912) acting on behalf of Federal Office of Transport (Q1005512), maintained in a database called Atlas (Q131298739) operated by Swiss Federal Railways (Q83835). Switzerland sometimes assigns SBOIDs to foreign companies such as Südbadenbus in Germany or even the Cuban railways. In those cases, the SBOID still starts with *ch:1:sboid:* just like for a Swiss company. The SBOID syntax is designed to be compatible with an eventual, not yet existing European standard for identifying transit agencies (similar to IFOPT stop ID (P12393) for transit stops), hence the ch: prefix. Switzerland seems to have gone ahead on this, there’s no European (CEN) standard yet for identifying transit agencies. --Sascha (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- There are almost 2000 of these?
Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there’s currently 1889 organizations with an SBOID. A small number of these are state-owned conglomerates like Deutsche Bahn (Q9322) or Société nationale des chemins de fer français (Q13646) with millions of passengers each day. Most of the listed transit agencies are relatively small companies such as Auto AG Uri (Q33058015) which operates just a couple of bus lines. Some entries are super tiny, such as Mattelift (Q1909332) with a single elevator, but technically they’re a still a transit agency with a license and an ID. —Sascha (talk) 08:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment @Sascha: Is there a reason why we should include the "ch:1:sboid:" part in every ID when that could be included in the URL format? I think that generally we should avoid having fixed parts in IDs, unless there is a particular reason for that. Samoasambia ✎ 03:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense. The upstream database recommends to not interpret the SBOID strings, so they can use additional prefixes in the future without disrupting downstream clients. To me personally, though, this seems like a rather hypothetical scenario. Should they ever use additional prefixes, the prefix can surely be added in Wikidata via a bulk edit operation. —Sascha (talk) 12:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
