Moebeus

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Issues identifying single release

https://www.discogs.com/master/185405-LTD-Every-Time-I-Turn-Around-Back-In-Love-Again-

Somehow there are four different 45 RPM 7" vinyl released in the US with the specific catalog code of "1974-S" all released in the same year by the same recording company A&M Records

How am i supposed to know which release should be added to (Everytime I Turn Around) Back in Love Again / Material Things (Q131520654)? Trade (talk) 23:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC) (Not gonna lie, i have no clue how you manage to keep track of so many releases with identical titles)

Since we're (generally speaking) not allowed to use cover art in most cases, I simply don't think it's any point in trying to maintain release variants / pressings with only visual or other extremely tiny differences. If all that is different is the cover art, pressing plant, etc. and the tracklist is otherwise identitical, then I treat them as the same release.

Discogs is heavily skewed towards collectors, sometimes with huge sums of money separating one variant from another, so their focus is a little different.

What I do in these situations is to add all the Discogs release IDs that for all practical purposes are the same. A Wikidata single release can also have multiple MusicBrains release IDS if it's only a visual difference in the MB db.

45cat is an example of a database of vinyl singles that uses "our" style of modelling. Moebeus (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I should also mention that I normally try to not mix promo copies from Discogs in with the regular releases. Unless a single only came out as a promo, I don't spend time time on it, our backlog of regular releases is long enough. Moebeus (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Which backlog are you referring to? Trade (talk) 08:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

So in short, if a release variant does not exist outside of Discog then it's probably not worth adding Trade (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

For something else, am i correct in assuming this album is instrumental? I find it difficult to tell if the background noise is from a vocalist or just the instruments Trade (talk) 04:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

You don't have to assume, there is a source for it: Alatyr - Zemou zabudnutia - Encyclopaedia Metallum:

This album is without vocals due to the dissatisfaction of the original vocal mix Moebeus (talk) 16:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Any suggestion on what to do with Vocaloid music? I cant figure out who to place as the performer of The Fox's Wedding (Remake) (Q131106186) (MASA WORKS DESIGN (Q131105797) (they are the Vocaloid-P (Q85873795)), Hatsune Miku (Q112748598) (VOCALOID software), Hatsune Miku (Q552682) (VOCALOID character) or Saki Fujita (Q1066065) (voice actor for Miku)--Trade (talk) 04:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm no expert on vocaloid, I would suggest mimicing what MusicBrainz does, more people over there invested in the genre who have already done much of the heavy lifting in terms of modelling? Moebeus (talk) 12:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Doesnt seem like they have done anything for Vocaloids specifically. Looking at Masa Works' Musicbrainz profile specifically it's essentially just a 1-1 copy of his Spotify page with little in the way of modeling. likely just scraped from the site itself Trade (talk) 23:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)