Talk:-scent
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Dentonius in topic RFD discussion: September–October 2020
@Soumya-8974 What words use this suffix? DTLHS (talk) 18:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Why? ascent, descent, flourescent, adolescent, etc. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 18:29, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Soumya-8974 Those are words that were borrowed with the "suffix" included. Sharing a common combination of letters at the end is not the same as sharing a suffix. This is particularly obvious with ascent and descent: what exactly do "a" and "de" mean in those words- as English? Chuck Entz (talk) 18:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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Not productive. DTLHS (talk) 18:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete unless somebody adds uses. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 18:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Everything that isn't a use of -escent (from which @Soumya-8974 copied the definitions) seems to have been borrowed with the "suffix" included. Worse, those mostly came from Latin participles of verbs with -sc added to the stem, so -scent was never added to anything. On the talk page, they gave ascent and descent as examples, even though the definitions given make no sense for those words (they come from Latin scando), and whatever the "suffix" must have been added to makes even less sense. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No real examples. Fay Freak (talk) 20:14, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- What about reminiscent? --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 16:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete unless there are uses. (So, delete with no prejudice to re-creating and re-discussing if someone puts forward three examples of use.) I see no books mentioning a "suffix -scent" or "ending -scent", btw, whereas the "suffix -escent" and "ending -escent" is discussed in literature. - -sche (discuss) 19:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as creator. Reminiscent is formed with -scent, not with -escent. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 16:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- According to the etymology, reminiscent comes from Latin where most of the scent part was already present. If thereis a suffix it's more likely Latin, e.g. -entis, or an old French ending if it was not borrowed directly. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:34, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. One example popped into my head immediately when I saw this: nascent. There probably are several more examples. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 18:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- This was a bad example on my part since the stem is "nasc". The suffix would just be "-ent" for nascent. Oops. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 07:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete if without examples. J3133 (talk) 18:04, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Deleted as not having any examples of use, pace the two newer users above who misunderstand what constitutes use of a suffix (there is no word na which nascent is formed by suffixing -scent to, neither in English nor in the Latin language the word comes from). - -sche (discuss) 06:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- @-sche, sorry I saw it too late. I thought about "nascere" and then realised later that what I'd written didn't make sense. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 08:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)