Talk:Delhi

Modifications in Drinking Section

I'm wondering why my update to the Coffee / Tea section has been twice repealed? I slightly rephrased the section on the coffee chains, and added a small note about independent coffee shops, including a listing for one particularly good one in Paharganj. To my mind, this improved the utility of the section and added information that is in keeping with the style of the rest of the article, and as far as I can tell, I haven't breached any of the guidelines. Could someone (preferably the user who reverted the change) please clarify this? Thanks. (WT-en) Elcapitan510 18:15, 24 December 2008

Airport Update

Just edited the page to change the airport information: Safdarjung is not the main airport. (WT-en) Schizoid 13:48, 24 Feb 2004 (EST)

With the opening of the $3 billion new terminal 3 operating all international and full service domestic flights, Delhi international airport has seen a major face lift. In fact, he international airport (Terminal 3) is now one of the best airport terminals in the world. It has a capacity of handling 34 million passengers per year. So, it is no more the airport with dirty toilets as it used to be. I am going to update the getting-in section with these info. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/03/india.delhi.airport/index.html#fbid=fuvxM4g340D&wom=false (WT-en) Ess.Bee 08:25, 8 August 2010 (EDT)

Stay Healthy

Just edited away the last part about the probiotics and other equally doubtful medical advice from the wiki.

While probiotics are helpful in preventing traveler's diarrhoea, there should be caution in using them, as not everyone will get the same benefit. In some cases, probiotic use can even promote bowel transit. Thus it is clear that no concensus about the use of probiotics currently exists, nor is it adviceable to use them without consideration

I'm currently not able to rewrite this section due to time limitations. But reliable information about traveling precautions in inda can be found at the WHO site, and through other verified sources I am amazed not seeing any link to them here, or on any other India related wikivoyage page i've visited so far. 1:41, 15 April 2008 (CEST)

Request from "Prasun"

There is a great website on food in delhi. It has the menu of all the restaurants with their ratings and phone nos. But the problem is that its my start up. I tried putting it up before on wekipedia but somebody removed the link and hence its my request if anyone here can go to my website and check it and then post it here if he or she likes it.

i know it will be unfair to spam the wiki and it being my website i am definitely biased towards thinking it as a nice one.

Yeah, this is the wrong place as well. Try Wikivoyage Extra. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:30, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

This article...

...contains a lot of advertising and lacks mode of style at present. Someone ought to do something about it. I'm sorry I'm not doing it myself, don't want to spend precious chilean internet café money on it... Is there anyone out there with some spare time? - (WT-en) Fridday 20:20, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

I agree it needs some care & attention, but do you have anything specific in mind? I'm not sure what "advertising" you're refering to. (WT-en) Majnoona 21:58, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

Sorry about my general and vague accusations. What do you think about this:

Asian Guest House, 14 Scindia House, 2nd. Floor, Kasturba Gandhi Marg, Connaught Place, New Delhi 110001 - Phones: 91-11-23313393 / 23314658 / 23310229 / 23313663. Tariff range From: Single Occupancy non air-conditioned room for INR 400 [USD 9 - AUD 12 - EURO 7.5 - AED 32.5] to Double Occupancy air-conditioned room with cable TV for INR 800* [USD 18 - AUD 24 - EURO 15 - AED 65]. The place to stay while visiting Delhi/ New Delhi in nice clean rooms with homely atmosphere and a helpful staff, besides it being so very centrally located.

I'm also a little concerned with the Sagar- entry under "South Indian" in the Eat secion. -- (WT-en) Fridday 16:31, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

The Asian Guest House listing doesn't seem too ad-ish, maybe a little more detail than needed. I'll go ahead and tighten up that last sentence so it's a little more useful and a little less touting. In general, we are recommending places by including them in the guides so there's something to be said for mentioning specificly what's good about a place. But both your examples can prolly be toned down a little. Lemme know if you have more comments -- or feel free to plunge forward and edit it yourself (it doesn't take any longer than explaining what you want changed on the talk page!). (WT-en) Majnoona 21:12, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Maybe I was wrong. I had a quick look and it felt like the guesthouse owners had just copied and pasted it from their standard ad, but I guess that might not be the case. I don't want to edit the description of a guesthouse I have never visited and only explained it on the talk-page because I felt I was asked to. I'll concentrate on countries I'm in at present from now on. -- (WT-en) Fridday 13:28, 15 July 2006 (EDT)

Missing the point here 'guesthouse owners had just copied and pasted from their standard ad'... can you please elaborate on it...

Districts

I'm pretty sure this qualifies as a huge city. Anyone want to comment before I try and district-ify it? (WT-en) Majnoona 22:02, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

Stab at districts:

• North Delhi - around Delhi University, Shah Jahanabad
• South Delhi - Santushti, Greater Kailash, Sainik Farms, Dilli Haat, Vasant Vihar,
• East Delhi - Laxmi Nagar, Preet vihar, Ito, Mayur Vihar
• West Delhi - Rajouri, Punjabi Bagh
• Central Delhi - Khan Market, Paharganj

(WT-en) Majnoona 22:13, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

You should add Gurgaon and Noida - where good shopping and cheaper lodgements are available

Great initiative! Good luck. Would be conveinient if the list of districts specified in which "Old Delhi" and Connaught place were located. -- (WT-en) Fridday 18:26, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Err, can you just edit my list and add them? I haven't been to Delhi in a long time... (WT-en) Majnoona 21:15, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Ehm, I'm sorry, but I don't know where to put them... Haven't been to Delhi in a couple of years myself... I just felt a little confused when confronted with the list and I remember the Old delhi and connaught circus areas as quite important and well known among travellers. Sorry if I implied to know more about Delhi than I actually do. -- (WT-en) Fridday 13:21, 15 July 2006 (EDT)

No problem! Any and all contributions are always appreciated... we'll get there little-by-little! (WT-en) Majnoona 13:34, 15 July 2006 (EDT)

EAST DELHI area is Trans Jamuna, ITO doesnot come in East Delhi

FWIW, Wikipedia has a map of the official nine districts of Delhi -- would this be a useful split? (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:55, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

Yow -- that was a bit too hasty. I'm not very happy with Maj's proposed listing above: where do eg. Connaught Place and Chawri Bazaar go? Would "Old Delhi" and "New Delhi" be a more sensible split than just an amorphous "Central"? But please, let's agree on a district map before we start breaking up the article. (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:01, 24 January 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I kinda threw that out there just to draw out people who would actually know how to do it... At the very least Old Delhi and New Delhi need to be represented. (WT-en) Maj 12:45, 24 January 2007 (EST)

I guess I might have been a bit guilty of plunging forward too soon there! Please excuse my enthusiasm! It will probably be worth getting User:(WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel involved because he lives in this city, and he should be able to help districtise. We were having a brief chat about it on my talk page, where he suggested the split that I set up in links. On the same subject, I found a .svg thats licensed under ccbysa/gfdl from a guy on Wikipedia which someone can play around with and edit so that we have a decent district map - Image:Delhi districts.svg. I'm afraid that is about the only contribution I can make here, having never been to India! -- (WT-en) Tim 15:39, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Hi, User:(WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel here, I'm not signed in currently. I live in New Delhi and after consulting my classmates at school, this is what I came up with.

• North Delhi (DU, Rohini....)
• Southwest Delhi (Dwarka, Najafgarh, Vasant Kunj....)
• South Delhi (Vasant Vihar, Hauz Khas, Green Park, Mehrauli....)
• Central Delhi (CP, Vijay Chowk, Janpath....)
• West Delhi (Uttam Nagar, Tilak Nagar, Rajouri Garden.....)
• Old Delhi (Red Fort, Chandni Chowk, Jama Masjid, Seelampur, Shahdara..)
• East Delhi (E. bank of Yamuna, Mayur Vihar)

• Why don't you use the official divisions. Another map here --2.80.101.61 11:11, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

It would be great to see Delhi districtified. My suggestion would be to use the official division. Comments, please, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 12:26, 19 May 2011 (EDT)

Dear ClausHansen, User:(WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel, Jpatokal, (WT-en) Fridday, (WT-en) Majnoona I have district-ify-ed Delhi using the 9 official old districts. Please fell free to share your opinions and comments. I am planning to create new articles for the districts. --Rangan Datta Wiki (talk) 17:25, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Users with WT-en in their name are not active here anymore. At least not with those names. No need to ping them. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@Rangan Datta Wiki: Given the lack of responses, I'd suggest you can plunge forward with your proposed district structure, and if someone objects later on we can revisit. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:59, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree. However, it's important to define the boundaries between the districts, even by notification, rather than discussion, so that maps can be made for each district. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Delhi vs New Delhi?

Should this article be moved to "Delhi", as the article already seems to cover more than just the strictly defined legal capital? I note that LP's guide is also called simply "Delhi". (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:36, 15 July 2006 (EDT)

Bump. I'm going to go ahead and move this in a few days if there are no objections. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:08, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

Delhi is the name used for the whole metropolitan area, of which New Delhi is just a part. So, the correct and probably most suitable title for this article is, as you state, "Delhi". (WT-en) WindHorse 10:26, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

New Delhi or Luytens Delhi is the area built around 1936 by the Britishers For King Goerge's visit. The walled city is called Old Delhi. If you like more details then these can be provides as I am a resident of Delhi. User:(WT-en) Indergi

accomodation contacts

Accommodation contact details can be found here. -- (WT-en) Tim 11:28, 5 November 2006 (EST) Hotel Ajanta

jama masjid picture

there's a nice pic that someone put a link to of the Jama Masjid in the 'religious buildings' section, but I can't get it to show up here... maybe it needs to be moved to shared? (WT-en) Cacahuate 00:14, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Yes. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 05:51, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Hmmm, now the link's gone too... maybe you can move the pic and sort it out Ravi? I'm a little retarded with that... (WT-en) Cacahuate 08:49, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Sure. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 14:41, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Done. Basically, what needed to be done was:

• Download from German site
• Upload to shared.
• Link from here. Now I will leave a message at the German Wikivoyage letting them know that they can delete it from there, as it is no longer needed. Then it is up to the administrators on de. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 19:49, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Cool, thanks! (WT-en) Cacahuate 00:06, 7 November 2006 (EST)

history not legend

I have edited the article to remove ahistorical and unproven content. There is no proof except in legend that Delhi existed at all before the 10th century A.D. Further, there is no proof that this is "Indraprastha" of the Mahabharata, except for the fact that a village in Harayana near the borders of Delhi is known by a name which may be a corruption of "Indraprastha" (Inderpath). There is, in fact, no historical proof that "Indraprastha" of the Mahabharata ever existed. There is no historical proof that Prithviraj Chauhan ever defeated Muhamad Ghuri. Further, Razia Sultana was not the grand-daughter of Qutb-ud-din Aibak. Qutb-ud-din Aibak was followed to the Delhi Sultanate by Iltutmish, who was also born a slave and was not a son of Qutb-ud-din Aibak. Similarily, Razia Sultana was not the daughter of Iltutmish but was once again a slave. Hence the name "Slave" dynasty.

All the stuff the above poster claims to have deleted is still there or has been restored. Whether or not it is correct, I think there is far too much history given in the current article, far more than a traveller wants or needs to know.

This article needs to say Delhi is at least a thousand years old and that major districts include Old Delhi, which is mainly a Mughal city, and New Delhi, mostly built under British rule. I am not convinced anything beyond that is worth mentioning; leave the history to WP. Pashley (talk) 22:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Stations

Delhi is not just served by the 3 stations which are listed, there are 3 more

• Delhi Shahdara
• Delhi Sarai Rohilla
• Delhi Cant.(WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel 03:53, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Maybe mention that in the article: Something like: there are 3 other stations in the city, but aren't likely to be used by travelers" - true, no? I've been there many times and never heard of these other 3... (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 05:03, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Most of them are used as yards. Just an example, The Mussoorie Exp leaves Sarai Rohilla and stops at Old Delhi Stn for an hour. So most of the passengers board the train at Old Delhi. If you have any doubts, look up Trains At A Glance or check up ww.irctc.co.in

Yeah, we should include something like... Delhi is also served by x, y, z stations but aren't likely to be used much. User:(WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel

Today Delhi has 3 Main Railway Stations namely: Old Delhi Railway Station, New Delhi Railway Station and Nizammudin Railway Station from where most fast, express trains start or end. The other stations mentioned like Delhi Cantonment, Shahdra, Sarai Rohilla are not in reckoning today. Slower trains maybe stopping but all fast express trains do not halt or if they do it is just for a minute.User:(WT-en) Indergi

Metro stations for attractions

Metro stations convenient to attractions should be listed in the attraction listings, not on a separate list somewhere else. After all, most people figure out where they want to go first and then worry about how to get there, not the other way around... and in a few years, Delhi's network will (hopefully!) be so dense that you can get pretty much everywhere by metro. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:20, 2 February 2007 (EST)

Will it?? Phase 2 was supposed to be completed by the end of Jan, there's still a long way to go (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel 06:16, 5 February 2007 (EST)

Phase 1 was supposed to be completed by end-2006, they managed it a few months early. Phase 2 is and has always been scheduled for 2010. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:23, 5 February 2007 (EST)

BAPS

So, BAPS (see the Talk page) is a big, powerful organization that's gotten into some tussles over its involvement in politics in Gujarat (esp. the whole Ayodhya mess), although fanboy Moksha88 actively censors the Wikipedia article too, so you won't see a hint of anything unseemly there. But I'll just apply Jpatokal's Non-Denominational Pan-Religious Cult Yardstick: does the temple have an 11-foot golden statue of its founder? Check -- they're a cult.

And oh yeah: by Indian standards, the food really is pretty bad. Not that you can complain too loudly at the price, which is why I called it just "mediocre". (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:44, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Fishing for Bengalis

This sentence entirely fails to make sense: But fishes don't just come from the ocean; Delhi gets an excellent supply of frehswater fish because of its large Bengali population. Huh? (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:17, 2 March 2007 (EST)

I think what the wikivoyager who wrote this means is that although Delhi is not located near any ocean and is well inland, it gets a good supply of fish thanks to its Bong (sorry Bengali) population. Bengalis are extremely fond of fish! (Trust me, I'm one myself) (WT-en) Upamanyuwiki • (Talk) • 11:05, 4 March 2007 (EST)

A Bengali or a fish? ;) — (WT-en) Ravikiran 11:17, 4 March 2007 (EST)

A Bengali who loves to eat fish provided it is fried! (WT-en) Upamanyuwiki • (Talk) • 05:10, 5 March 2007 (EST)

The sentence is messy, but the facts as I know them are that Bengalis prefer freshwater fish. In my limited understanding, not being a Bengali, a fish or a fisheater myself, is that they get their fish from ponds they specially dig to "farm" fish. And from the Hoogly river. So what the sentence was trying to convey is probably that a) Delhi gets freshwater fish from some river (dunno which, the polluted Yamuna is hardly likely to have it.) and b) the demand from Bengalis creates a supply for fish. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 11:17, 4 March 2007 (EST)

You got it. But the fish mostly comes from the east or some nearby ponds, the Yamuna has garbage and animal (even human) poo to offer, nothin' else. (WT-en) Upamanyuwiki • (Talk) • 05:10, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Asian Guest House: Stay at your own risk

Agreed, they have a great location. But thats it. They are not going to provide you payment receipts. They will not bother to check if you have been given towels, clean bedsheets, if your bathroom has been cleaned up, if your AC is working, or if you are having hot water. The bathrooms are utterly god-forsaken! the rooms though looking clean at first look are full of dust and mite. The beds creek and the TV remote has no batteries. The Guest House people are good at appeasing the foreign travellers, getting hefty tips and good amount if back-patting for their caninely-affectionate behaviour.

This has been written based upon the stay of 6 different people over 3 different trips from Oct 2006 to March 2007.

The staff is helpful if you are willing to dispense generous amounts of moolah, else you find yourself deciphering the face contortions of a ferociously-paan-chewing 'helpful' man straddling on the bed in one of the cigarette-smoke filled rooms (yes, the room that GUESTS are supposed to stay in) in no mood to even look at you, mutters something and scratches his heels.

the hot water is another myth. for those 15-18 minutes you can get it.... make sure your neighbours are still asleep... or are the dirty types who dont bathe at all, for one faucet on with hot water, makes next door residents prance about in towels wrapped searching for bell-boys who only show up at all odd hours.

Its also not very safe living here. If you are a woman travelling alone be cafreful.

its pathetic. please, please, please dont be stingy, select a good hotel and live in peace. Your health and comfort are more important than the money you could save for a big mac fatty burger, or a fake set of INDIAN artefacts. If you cant afford a good hotel, stay in the YMCA hostel, yatri - nivas indian railways or better in a delhi tourism accomodation. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 61.2.186.78 (talk • contribs)

I would recommend The Imperial for your future stays... it's slightly nicer  :) – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 01:43, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

If it is that bad then it should be removed from the listing. The listing is supposed to be a short list of recommended places. Unless there is specific reason to warn people off. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 02:25, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

It is really so bad that people should be warned about it. I went to make my latest reservation with wikivoyages "recommendation". Never again! One night I was *really* surprised to find monkeys living just outside my room, behind the room windows. Check: http://www.damicon.fi/~joha/photo/tmpjoo/asianguesthousen-apinat.jpg - (WT-en) Joha

Wild monkeys are very common in Delhi. The city is a zoo, just be glad it wasn't, say, rats, pigs or elephants. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:26, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Ajanta Guesthouse

So have they drastically risen their rates? The most current LP says singles are Rs350 and doubles are Rs450. Having just come back from India, I know that using the LP I can almost always get the price listed in the current book, and sometimes even less, so I find it hard to believe that Ajanta's cheapest room is now Rs 1000, unless they've just remodeled or gone crazy... or thought you were filthy rich and you didn't try to bargain... so can you explain please? For the record when I've quoted prices throughout the India pages I've put what I know the price can be bargained down to, not necessarily the first price they quote... otherwise you're just helping to feed inflation and satisfying the greed of the hotel owners who'll just continue to ask higher and higher prices... Thanks! – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 23:29, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

I dont know about rising prices but I checked the prices for wikivoyage from their own website at: http://www.hotelajanta.com/tariff.htm. Please note prices without TAX as usual in Delhi. (WT-en) Joha

Great, thanks for commenting. I changed the price in the article back to "Singles from Rs1000", and moved it to Mid-range. Sounds like they've renovated since LP was last there, the pictures looked pretty nice on their website. Thanks again! – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 17:27, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

Well the building and two rooms I was given didnt look renovated lately. I would say they have triple prices compared to neighbouring similar hotels at the same street. Also Asian Guest House website looks very nice compared to their premises. :-). (WT-en) Joha

I have stayed there like 2 weeks ago (July 2008) and I was able to store my luggage there, they had renovated the hotel and the stuff was actually quite helpful (sometimes a bit confused, but always helpful).

Quila Rai Pithora

The dates are inconsistent. The article puts the building of the city at during the 10th century and then says that it was created by Prithviraj Chauhan, a late 12th century king. I'm not sure which is correct (that the city was built in the 10th century or that it was built by chauhan in the 12th century) but have modified it assuming that Chauhan, not known as a great builder, inheritied the city rather than built it. The original text is:

This dates back to the 10th century A.D. as per available historical records. Also earlier known as Rai Pithora, this city was created by Prithviraj Chauhan, the local hero famous for his resisting, before finally losing to, the marauding invaders from central Asia (Muhammad Ghori in particular). Chauhan's ancestors are said to have captured the city from the Tomar Rajputs who were credited with founding Delhi. Anangpal, a Tomar ruler possibly created the first known regular fort here called 'Lal Kot', which was taken over by Prithviraj and the city extended. Some of the ruins of the fort ramparts are still visible around Qutab Minar and Mehrauli

Someone needs to check the dates.--(WT-en) Wandering 12:01, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Or one could ignore the question, as not particularly relevant to the traveler. :) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 15:12, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Wisely said. Solomonic. ;-).--(WT-en) Wandering 15:17, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Akshardham temple.

Seems a bit odd for this to be the first image on the Delhi page. The Red Fort or the Qutab Minar would seem to be more emblematic. Or, is there no 'first photo' policy in wikivoyage? Don't want to step on any toes otherwise I'd just add a picture on top (I have some nice ones of the Qutub in my old print library!).--(WT-en) Wandering 16:43, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Alternate suggestions are welcome. There's quite a few other pics in the article itself below... (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:51, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

I thought the same thing a couple days ago. I almost swapped it with the Lahore Gate pic below, but stopped since it's a little smoggier. But then, that's the reality... a blue sky and puffy white cloud pic of the red fort would be nice, but oh so misleading ;) Anyhow, I vote for a red fort pic – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 00:07, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

I'm going to replace Akshardham with the Lahore Gate pix in the article. With the perfectly centered Indian flag, it seems appropriate.--(WT-en) Wandering 14:24, 4 September 2007 (EDT)

I shoved it in. But, do wander (wonder) if the image can be stretched across the top of the page. Shorter, but wider. Does the wikivoyage markup language allow for that or is px the only way to go?--(WT-en) Wandering 14:36, 4 September 2007 (EDT)

Pictures should be no wider than 400px, as the screen sizes of Wikivoyage users vary widely. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:14, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Turquoise Cottage/The Other Side

TC/TOS have indeed been sealed , but Delhi being Delhi, I'm hoping this is only temporary so I'm rescuing the listings here, just in case they reopen again (legally or otherwise...).

• Turquoise Cottage, 81/3 Adhchini, Sri Aurobindo Marg, South Delhi, tel. 011-2685-3896, . True to the name, the decor is turquoise and stylishly rustic, but the food is Thai-Chinese and, while somewhat adapted to Indian tastes, quite tasty. Also check out the popular The Other Side bar downstairs. Reservations recommended. Rs. 500.
• The Other Side, 81/3 Adhchini (basement of Turquoise Cottage), Sri Aurobindo Marg, tel. 011-2685-396. Smoky brick-walled basement covered with Western memorabilia. Eclectic music with an emphasis on rock (expect anything from Beatles to AC/DC) and a good crowd, especially on Wednesday's media nights. Rs. 500 minimum for drinks and food, couples only.

Looks like they are, so back in they go. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:32, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Anand Vihar

Anand Vihar (code ANVR) is Delhi's newest station, located well to the east of the city near Noida. Repeatedly delayed, the station finally opened in December 2009 and will gradually take over all east-bound services. The station can be reached by Delhi Metro Line 3.

Please check, it might be Line 5

This article... (2) =

is full of it. I was in Delhi last week. I am a seasoned traveller, have been to several developing countries in the region and elsewhere, and thought Delhi was a dirty, yucky place. This paragraph:

Take a walk at Connaught Place (CP), the heart of New Delhi. It is now called Rajiv Chowk. The British-designed colonial equivalent of a shopping mall, it's laid 
out in two concentric rings divided into blocks, all bursting with shops and lots of pampered pigeons waddling about. Long neglected, the area received a major 
shot in the arm after the opening of the major Metro junction of Rajiv Chowk under it, and it's going more upmarket by the day. At the centre is a small but 
pleasant park, while on one edge is the notorious Palika Bazaar, an underground den of cheap wares, many pirated or smuggled from overseas. The area is 
surrounded by tall office buildings on nearly all sides. Train fans will want to check out the Metro Museum inside the (Patel Chowk) station, open 10 AM-4 PM
 Tue-Sun (free with valid Metro ticket). Quite simply the best place to hang out! 

Is laughable. I don't know how much of it is "commonwealth games construction", but Connaught Place has huge holes everywhere, falling apart buildings, is dark, dirty, and not a place I'd want to hang out during the night or day.

The main backpacker area, Paharganj, looks like a war zone. The buildings are crumbling, there's no front facade on any of them, the alleys are dark, dirty, filled with cows eating garbage, piles of shit and swarms of flies. The "main bazaar" is not a place to wonder at night, and during the day it's just a useless dirty place. That whole area has little to no visible nightlife, and I wouldn't choose to stay there again. There are maybe 2 viable places to eat in the whole area for people avoiding street food. I don't know what it used to look like, but I know what it looked like in early August 2010, which was like a crumbling war zone.

Chandni Chowk is certainly an experience of twisting alleys and tiny shops, but I'd add it's quite dirty and dangerous looking at night. There's sometimes 3 lanes of traffic in this tiny muddy alley, and I was hit twice by cycle rickshaws, even though I stayed completely on the edge of the road. The message about "great snacks to be found" does not mention that it's unhygienic street food that casual travellers trying to avoid disease would/should not eat.

This whole article is positive and promotional-sounding, whereas I found Delhi to be the worst part of my India trip, and would recommend people not fly into there if it can be avoided. Kolkata was a much more developed city, even though the wikivoyage article describes it as a "shock". —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Optimike (talk • contribs)

Meh. Sure, Delhi looks like a shithole, but so does most of India, and I wouldn't walk around any Indian city late at night. Connaught Place is currently (again...) torn to shreds by the Metro construction, but it's scheduled to end this very month (Sep 2010). And yes, Old Delhi and Paharganj look like slums, which is pretty much what they are. For some odd reason Old Delhi isn't really covered at all in this article, but there is an embryonic Footloose in Old Delhi walking tour.

And oh -- it's a wiki. If you think something is inaccurate, plunge forward and change it instead of bitching here! Indian articles, in particular, are regularly sanitized by easily offended locals who think not writing about open sewers, terrible weather or people pissing in public will magically make visitors not notice them on arrival. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:26, 6 September 2010 (EDT)

I wouldn't walk around any Indian city late at night

And why is that? It's not that Indian cities (except Delhi) are very unsafe at night. And Chandni Chowk, in fact, is one of the safer areas in Delhi. It's perfectly safe to walk around Calcutta/Kolkata or Chennai at night... (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 05:39, 26 November 2010 (EST)

Crime is one thing, but it's scary enough being a pedestrian in Indian cities during the day. Trying to steer your way through cow poop, open sewers and homicidal autorickshaws at night on foot is not a wise idea... (WT-en) Jpatokal 19:14, 26 November 2010 (EST)

Well yes hard to disagree.... but believe me, autos are more homicidal during the day :) (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 09:40, 27 November 2010 (EST)

To Optimike: Calcutta is certainly NOT more developed or cleaner than Delhi. It is pretty much considered to be the filthiest and most underdeveloped of all the major cities in India. I personally prefer Cal to Delhi, but that's a different matter altogether. And from a tourist's POV, Delhi is probably a much better place to visit than Cal as it has got more historical monuments (including 3 UNESCO sites), has a much better metro system, and is more well connected. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 05:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)

Am I blind-Delhi districts?

Am I blind that there are no districts for Delhi? I saw the hugecity template, but I can't find the districts and it doesn't seem to be any (searched and checked the history of the guide). Can someone far more familiar than I with Delhi (I only know where the city is on a map) figure out how to add districts? I'll help with the cleaning up of the articles. -- Sapphire (talk) 21:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a pretty long article. Is it time to districtify? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I'd say yes. New Delhi and Old Delhi seem like obvious districts to me; I'm not at all sure about the rest. See also next section.

Should Gurgaon be included as a suburb? My guess is no, since it is across a provincial border, but I'd say it needs a fairly prominent link and some discussion since it is one of the main places in India where foreigners might find employment. Pashley (talk) 09:46, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Why isn't there a New Delhi article on Engvoy?

Swept in from the pub

I noticed that articles about New Delhi do exist in other editions of Wikivoyage but not in the English edition. What is the reason we chose not to have an article for New Delhi? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

The relevant discussion is at Talk:Delhi#Delhi vs New Delhi?. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:15, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

On the other hand, Delhi is an important enough city and a long enough article that perhaps it's time to think about districtifying it. When and if that happens, New Delhi could certainly be created as a district article. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 19:39, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Likely this would be worth raising at Wikivoyage:India Expedition. Pashley (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Seems very odd not to have an article on the national capital. Powers ^(talk) 20:53, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

...unless dealing with something like Montserrat. K7L (talk) 22:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the article on Nauru's capital Yaren is a redirect. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, yes, sorry. A national capital for a country with a billion residents, then. Powers ^(talk) 15:36, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Which Wikivoyager/s do you recommend contacting whom might be willing/capable of districtifying the Delhi article? (are there any specific users you know of whom have done many similar tasks before?) ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 02:15, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't know that we're in particular need of anyone with local knowledge: the article already has an Orientation section complete with a districts map, and there's probably enough content in the article that we can simply divide the listings up geographically. That being the case, probably any number of our more seasoned contributors could take care of it. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:31, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I understand. I didn't mean that I was looking for a local expert, but rather a Wikivoyage expert whom has districtifyed many other huge city articles before. Unfortunately I am still not really sure whom would be able to help me districtify the Delhi article. Can you name a few Wikivoyage experts you think would be capable and willing of helping me do this? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 17:00, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

New Delhi is a part of Delhi. It is like Manhattan or City of London. In the long-term, it and Old Delhi should have its own article as it seems that the districts of all major cities in the world can have their own article on wikivoyage. Delhi itself is also a varied place to travel. DaGizza (talk) 03:26, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

ויקיג'אנקי, your best bet is to start a discussion at Talk:Delhi, if you haven't already done so. Presuming that we go with the districts already shown on the map AndreCarrotflower alludes to, all that's necessary is to decide on the borders of the districts, so I'd suggest that borders be the place to start the discussion, assuming you do agree with the districts on the map. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I had always read New Delhi was more akin to Washington DC in the US; a separate territory from the rest, not just a city district. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 10:33, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

There is a National Capital Territory of Delhi, not a separate Federal district of only New Delhi. From w:Delhi:

Delhi (/ˈdɛli/, Hindustani pronunciation: [d̪ɪlliː] Dilli ), also known as the National Capital Territory of India is the capital of India.

Also see w:New Delhi:

New Delhi Listeni/ˈnjuː dɛli/ is the capital of India and seat of the executive, legislative, and judiciary branches of the Government of India. It is also the centre of the Government of the National Capital Territory of Delhi. New Delhi is situated within the metropolis of Delhi and is one of the eleven districts of Delhi National Capital Territory.

So New Delhi is a municipality, but it's one of 11 districts of Delhi - maybe the situation is more akin to Los Angeles being widely identified with Los Angeles County, not just the city, which excludes a bunch of small municipalities like Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Glendale, and El Segundo, rather than Washington, DC, which is loosely described as including a bunch of neighboring areas of Maryland and Virginia but clearly understood as technically meaning only the district itself, which is coterminous with the city. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Officially Delhi have 9 districts but from a traveller point of view, we don't need to districtify Delhi article into those 9. I wouldn't prefer to districtify the article based on orientation mentioned in the article because I believe it is of no good use from a traveller point of view. This case reminds of of Karachi districtification. I spent months districtifying Karachi based on official 5 districts but at the end, I found them all useless from a traveller point of view. Today, Karachi — one of the world's most populous city — have no district at all on WV. Anyways, I think we need local expert who can suggest districtification. --Saqib (talk) 14:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

In any event, there's a consensus on Wikivoyage that ttcf trumps official municipality boundaries, so even if New Delhi is politically a separate entity from the rest of Delhi, that alone does not justify it getting a separate article. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 14:51, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

It is actually more important for Old Delhi to have a separate article before New Delhi. Old Delhi is a distinct cultural and historical area from a general perspective and travelling perspective. The markets are different. The people living and working there are different. Even the forms of transport are different due to narrower roads. DaGizza (talk) 00:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Districts

Politically Delhi had nine districts until September 2012. Now it has 11. See this news article for more information on the increase in districts. . For a city of Delhi's size, 11 districts may be the way to go although note that these districts don't include the Greater Delhi/NCR region. From a travel perspective, some of the administrative divisions make sense like New Delhi. The others don't really matter. Some of the districts are residential non-touristy areas, at best interesting if you want to see how the locals live. Also I don't think Wikimedia Commons has an 11 district map yet. Gizza ^(t)(c) 10:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

DaGizza, do you have any feelings about what districts we should use on WV? I don't know Delhi well enough to express an opinion - except that this city needs to be districted, with all listings moved to the appropriate district article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:15, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd like the list to include the few names in the area that I recognise: New Delhi, Old Delhi and Noida. Perhaps Guragaon though I think that is technically not part of Delhi, so perhaps it should just get a link.

For Old Delhi, that should be the district name; if Central Delhi is needed at all, it should be a redirect.Pashley (talk) 13:28, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

The map in this link http://www.mapsofindia.com/delhi/districts/ can be used as a rough guide. With a city population of over 16 million and urban area population of more than 24 million, Delhi should be able to have 11 core districts and further outer NCR districts including Gurgaon. There are much smaller cities with even more districts than that. Some of the districts will be off the beaten track but that's the case with all cities. Connaught place can also be split off from the rest of New Delhi (bumping the number to 12) since it is the main central business district/downtown area for the city. Gizza ^(roam) 00:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

The districtification seems to have come to a standstill. ϒpsilon (talk) 07:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and districtified a couple months back, without ever thinking to look at the talk page, which I just happened to see now. We can discuss what I did if you guys want :) Ar2332 (talk) 21:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I'd just note that there are still a good number of "Eat" and "Drink" listings that need to be moved out of this article into the district articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

I know, but I have no idea which district they are in and it would be too much work to find out. Ar2332 (talk) 07:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Tours

I'm not sure if these listings comply with our tour guidelines. I think the best I can do for now is to archive them in the talk page, and let this discussion take place. Ibaman (talk) 13:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

• Food Tour in Delhi, ☏ +919810645418, info@foodtourindelhi.com. In these tours, you can enjoy local Indian food as it's prepared and enjoyed by locals. The food tours include facilities such as unlimited food & drinks, transport in air conditioned vehicles, options to add more services and modifying the tours to suit dietary requirements.. Each tour covers food, city walk, sightseeing and urban exploration in one package. Learn how to cook Indian food, take a full day adventure tour, explore hidden and less known corners of the city in a tour. 
• Reality Tours & Travel, www.realitytoursandtravel.com/delhi, ☏ +91 9818227975, delhi@realitytoursandtravel.com. 7:00am-10:00pm. Reality Tours & Travel is a social tour operator that runs a variety of off-beat tours around Delhi from Rs. 550. They are most famous for their educational slum tour in Sanjay Colony, in South Delhi. They also offer an evening Old Delhi Tour, an Old Delhi Street Food Tour and Sightseeing Tours. 80% of the profits from all of their tours are used to support their partner NGO in Sanjay Colony. From Rs 550. 
• Delhi Photo Tour, info@delhiphototour.com. Delhi Photo Tour provides various types of photography tours which include sightseeing, food tasting, city walks and more in multiple types of tours. Some examples are Old Delhi Photo Walk, Delhi Street Photo Tour, Tour of Delhi Monuments and so on. Most of the photo tours are customisable and can be tailored to suit preferences of the guests. (updated Jun 2015)
• Delhi Bar Crawl. Fun filled bar crawls in Delhi of duration 4-5 hours. Pickup and drop can be provided on request. Minimum drinking age in New Delhi city is 25 and 21 in Noida and Gurgaon. (updated Jun 2015)

Natural History Museum

This museum had a catastrophic fire recently so someone deleted the listing. OK, but it seemed worth preserving here in case it is rebuilt. Pashley (talk) 21:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

• 1 National Museum of Natural History, New Delhi (Ficci Museum, राष्ट्रीय प्राकृतिक इतिहास संग्रहालय), Tansen Marg (Near Mandi House, Tansen Marg, - Metro Blue 'Mandi House'). Galleries: Tu-Su 10.00-17.00, Discovery Room Tu-Su 10.30-12.00 and 14.30-15.30. 

That is terrible news - thanks for preserving the see listing... Matroc (talk) 22:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

The airport listing has a weird rogue '

And I can neither see it in the source text nor seem to get rid of it. Anybody any idea what's happening here? Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:14, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

No idea. I tried and failed to get rid of it a couple months ago. Ar2332 (talk) 21:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I think we might wanna raise the issue in the pub Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I just realized this would work well as a marker, rather than a listing. So I changed it to a marker and the issue is gone. I guess there is a problem with putting IATA listings in middle of a listing. Ar2332 (talk) 21:49, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Maybe there is. Maybe it was something else entirely. At any rate, have a look here as this was what brought my attention here in the first place. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:56, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Dynamic city map

There's a nice static regions map. Why is there a dynamic map above it? It's of historical precedents for Delhi? Then maybe it should be in "Understand", though it would be much better to have the names in the map than a dynamic map, if the point is to indicate history at a glance. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Historical precedents (many of which are modern tourist sites), intercity bus/train stations, airport, main tourist office - there's lots of dynamic stuff which is relevant on a city wide level. Ar2332 (talk) 07:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

But it doesn't look good right above the static district map, especially without a caption explaining why it's there. Also, on Wikivoyage, the history is that articles such as those for districted cities, which have static maps, don't also have dynamic maps. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I haven't changed my mind in over 3 years. Would anyone like to argue in favor of keeping the dynamic map, or shall I remove it? A third option would be to center it on South Delhi and move it to the top of "Understand". Any votes for that? Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I prefer the static map of the two. IMO it would make more sense for district articles, with more specific information such as markers/listings, to be included in district articles. We could include the dynamic map in “Understand,” though, since it doesn’t seem right to remove the dynamic map from the article completely. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm OK with that if that's what people support. I'll have to experiment with how to get the move to work. I'll wait at least 24 hours for more comments. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Air pollution

Do we need a warning?

NY Times: Delhi, Blanketed in Toxic Haze, ‘Has Become a Gas Chamber’ CNN: Delhi pollution crisis prompts city-wide emergency measures Pashley (talk) 00:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

I added a brief warning. It could likely be improved.

This story says the problem is getting worse. Pashley (talk) 22:19, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

A few sentences can be added to "Stay healthy" too. It's seasonal in that November is the worst month of the year but the long-term trends are for it to get worse every year. Gizza ^(roam) 00:03, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Medical tourism

I reverted this edit, but is it worth mentioning anything about Delhi as a destination for medical tourism? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

What exactly did the contributor mean by "medical tourism"? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

There's a Wikipedia article about w:Medical tourism. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:15, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I see. So it's about going somewhere for surgery. I'd think any big city would have some medical tourism, then. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Some more than others, because of a combination of good surgical teams, low cost and good care while in hospital. When the term "medical tourism" is used, it nowadays usually refers to international medical tourism, e.g. a trip to Singapore for a sex change, to the Philippines for dental work, etc. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:38, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't have thought of Delhi as being a medical tourism destination. I think it would largely depend on whether people go into Delhi from outside India for surgery, etc. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:43, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Right. I think India is an international medical tourism destination. Another selling point of India for English-speakers is that educated Indians such as doctors speak excellent English. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:59, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

There is now a WV Medical tourism article. Pashley (talk) 00:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Chinese guests banned from Delhi hotels

Article today in the South China Morning Post: Chinese guests banned from hotels in India’s capital after border clash

Should we place a warning about this in the Sleep section? STW932 (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Due to the pandemic, India doesn't let in foreign visitors in the first place so I don't think it's necessary to add right now. But if this policy still persists in the future, then I think we could add a warning (maybe to the main India article too?) --Ypsilon (talk) 18:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

A warning refers to immediate danger to one’s life and limb. Unless that is the case, I think at most we should be considering a cautionbox. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Not necessarily a warning box but just a warning, ie. a paragraph describing the problem. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense! Definitely that would be appropriate when the situation becomes clearer after the pandemic. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Too much negative reviews?

While contributing on the Kolkata article while scrolling through the Delhi article, I found that there are too much negative reviews about several things, including its pollution, potentially discouraging the travellers to visit this city. However, Wikivoyage states that we should avoid negative reviews. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:29, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

There shouldn't be unnecessary listings of restaurants, bars and hotels that deserve negative reviews, but per Wikivoyage:Be fair, if a city has horrible pollution, we need to mention it. Leaving out important information that could be crucial to making a decision about whether to even visit a city or not would make us derelict in our duty. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Of course but I don't think repeating the same thing throughout the article might make sense. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 04:30, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Change district names

The names of Wikivoyage districts of Delhi like Delhi/Western Delhi are discouraged by Wikivoyage:Naming conventions, which states:

“ don't repeat the name of the city unless it's offical. Amsterdam/East is as clear as and much shorter than "Amsterdam/East Amsterdam". ”

Since most of our districts don't correspond to official districts, we should change all the district names from "Delhi/X Delhi" to "Delhi/X" except Delhi/New Delhi, which is the official name. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 04:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Six days passed and no one responded to this discussion. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 04:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I know I'm a bit late to the discussions and I'm aware this goes against the guideline, but I'd say keep the district names as they are. The policy was written back during the times of Wikitravel back when the MediaWiki software was radically different, but using the shorter names messes up with {{PAGENAME}} and therefore messes up with {{stbox}} (notice how Los Angeles/Northwest#Go next or Vancouver/South#Go next have awkward phrases but Delhi/Western Delhi or Canberra/North Canberra don't). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:26, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand what the problem is. Could you explain further? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

SHB2000 if you are concerned with the naming convention of city districts, please discuss the issue on the talk page of the convention, not here. Until that issue is sorted out, we have to follow that convention unless the district name is official. We would also have to resort on workarounds. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 05:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Altering the section order

I've altered the order of the sections to comply with Wikivoyage:Huge city article template. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 04:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Destination of the month?

Is Delhi ready to become Dotm? Or is something missing? /Yvwv (talk) 16:19, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

A lot of work is needed to do so. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 05:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Eat listings from the guide

Move these to the appropriate district, if they're still in business and you know which article they belong in:

Budget

• Andhra Pradesh Bhavan Canteen, Ashok Road (near Man Singh Road). Open for lunch and dinner this is a favorite of local Delhi foodies who are looking for an authentic Andhra meal. They serve all you can eat veg/non-veg thalis for ₹ 80-150. For carnivores, you have a variety of non-veg options (chicken/fish/mutton) but the mutton fry is recommended. The service is quick and efficient (slipshod and aggressive), and the joint crowded and noisy. Another favorite is the Karnataka Bhavan canteen beside Ansal Plaza near Mool Chand offering all possible South India food.
• Bitto Tikki Wala, (also known as BTW), Netaji Subhash Place, Pitampura. The best aloo tikki (potato and vegetable burger) available in town. It has a branch in Sarita Vihar, Near Apollo Hospital and Badarpur border. It has branches all over the city now, in shopping areas.
• Nangarg, Rajgur Marg Road (side road off of Main Bazaar), Paharganj. A really good hole-in-the-wall restaurant that serves vegetarian and non-vegetarian food for about ₹ 60. The workers there are genuinely good people, which can be hard to find in this area. You'll have more luck finding a sign that says "Veg-Nonveg" than their actual restaurant sign.

Mid-range

You will find McDonalds, KFC, Subway and Pizza Hut in malls and throughout the city. The Indian menu without beef and with lots of veggie options can be interesting even if you would otherwise steer clear.

• Gulati Restaurant, 6 Pandara Road Market. Voted as the best North Indian Restaurant. ₹639 for buffet. 
• Moti Mahal Delux, Several locations. Famous for their tandoori chicken and North Indian food. Their family-sized naan is delicious and the size of a 4-year-old child. Home of where the original Dal Makhani, Butter Chicken, and many of the other dishes now highly popular in the UK were first created. 
• Sagar Ratna, Several locations, ☏ +91 11 2433 3815, +91 11 2155 1097. Considered by many to be the best place for authentic South Indian food, Sagar does justice to the reputation. The menu features dosas, idlis, vadas, uttapams, rasam and thalis. A/C. There's likely to be a queue for seats during peak hours and definitely on Tuesday nights. Has many branches. 
  • Sagar Ratna (at Ashok Hotel), 50-B Chanakyapuri, ☏ +91 11 2611 0101. The upmarket version, is quieter, better laid out and more expensive. 

Splurge

• Bukhara, Maurya Sheraton, Regularly tops the charts as India's best restaurant (and certainly among the priciest), the roast lamb and the Bukhara Dal here are renowned. Always make reservations or be ready to stand in a queue for about 2 hr. From ₹2,000.
• Chor Bizarre. Hotel Broadway, 4/15A Asaf Ali Rd. Now franchised worldwide, the original restaurant serves Kashmiri food in an eclectic surrounding like a chor bazaar (thieves market). The buffet is laid out inside an old car. ₹300-400 for each dish. A bit on the pricey side (relatively for India), but worth a splurge. If going by foot, look out for the Delhi Stock Exchange on same strip 0.5 km from here. (updated Oct 2016)
• Naivedyam, East Patel Nagar, (opposite Jaypee Siddharth Hotel), Offers quality South Indian meals and service at great prices.
• Punjabi by Nature, Rajouri Garden, MGF City Square Mall (Lifestyle). One of Delhi's best-known Punjabi restaurants. ₹800 or so, more if you order seafood.

Barbeque/grills

• Pirates of Grills, C-12, Vishal Enclave, Rajouri Garden, ('Rajouri Garden metro'). Same concept as Barbeque Nation, Janakpuri, Western Delhi

Japanese

• Enoki. The Grand, Nelson Mandela Rd, Vasant Kunj-II. Pseudo-rustic yakitori (Japanese chicken kebab) restaurant offering fairly authentic food, including a limited range of sushi and sake. From ₹1,000. 

Thai

Delhiites have eagerly adopted Thai food into their culinary pantheon, although the recipes and ingredients are often rather Indianised.

• EGO Thai, Friends Colony Market. 
• Chilli Seasons, Lodhi Colony market. 
• Culinaire, Greater Kailash 2. (updated May 2019)
• Thai High, ☏ +91 11 26644289. Mehrauli. Should go at night for a view of the lit up Qutab Minar. 

Chinese

Chinese is Delhi's most popular non-Indian cuisine. For a long time, only Indianised Chinese was available, but high-quality options are available today.

• Mainland China, Vishal Enclave, Rajouri Garden metro station. Oriental/Chinese cuisine. Other branches at Greater Kailash 2 and Saket
• Nan King, Chinese food in a nice location with a private lounge. Good for groups or a special occasion.
• Rice Bowl 18/31 East Patel Nagar Market, New Delhi – Chinese/Oriental food.
• The Yum Yum Tree, ☏ +91 11 4260 2020. As much as a fantasy-land as a restaurant, it's one of the largest Chinese restaurants in the city. The influence is from Singapore, and the Dim Sum Menu is good. The cuisine here is extremely high quality. Sectioned into separate areas. The Grill for a quick lunch, or the more formal dining area for dinner. Includes a funky bar called New Friends Colony. (updated Oct 2016)

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC) Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Drink listings from the article

Moved here on the same basis as the "Eat" listings - move to district. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Coffee and tea

• Chill&Chai @ Khoj, S17 Khirki Extension (opposite Saket Select Citywalk). A great tiny place for good coffee, tea and international food inside one of Delhi's best known cultural centre KHOJ. Mediterranean style with cool terrace (updated Apr 2015)
• Independent coffee shops are harder to find in Delhi, but they exist, and are worth seeking out.
• Aap ki Pasand Tea Shop, Sterling House, 15 Netaji Subhash Marg, Daryaganj (opposite the post office, walking distance from Red Fort), ☏ +91 11 2326 0373. A great place to sample Indian chai and the exotic Darjeeling and Assam teas and purchase the same. Located in an old colonial era building, its teas have been savoured by Bill Clinton, Gorbachov, Koizumi and are taken as official state gifts of India. (updated Oct 2016) moved to Delhi/Central Delhi

Hookah/sheesha

Indian bar food, hookah and an amazing lounge experience. The crowd that frequents these two places is young, hip and trendy.

• Hookah, ☏ +91 11 4166 3522. Basant Lok (in Priya Cinema complex), Vasant Vihar. 3 level bar-restaurant offering surprisingly good (but pricy) Middle Eastern food. They offer a wide range of drinks and an even wider range of flavored water pipes. There is no outdoor seating, nor do they offer hot drinks.  moved to Delhi/New Delhi
• Toast by Lazeez Affaire, Rajouri Garden, West Gate Mall (level III). Great collection of flavored tobacco sheesha, and drinks, international food, Greek, French, pan European and Indian cuisines.
• Mocha, Defense Colony.
• Ziya- The Morockin Cafe, ☏ +91 92 1263 1306-1-2. This is a chain of neuvo Middle Eastern cafes with a wide range of drinks, food and flavoured tobacco. Budget prices. (updated Oct 2016)

Bars and nightclubs

• Aqua, Poolside bar at the Park Hotel (close to Connaught Place), has a lounge atmosphere and an extensive drinks list.
• Aura, (at the Claridges).
• Decibel, Chanakyapuri. One of two clubs in the Samrath Hotel next to the Ashok Hotel. ₹500 entrance fee. moved to Delhi/New Delhi
• Elevate. Noida (adjoining South Delhi). 
• F Bar & Lounge (by Fashion TV), Chanakyapuri. (in the Hotel Ashok). Trendy bar and night club.). Cover charge is redeemable against drinks. F Sa is ₹3,000, free on d before 10PM. moved to Delhi/New Delhi
• IndoChine's Forbidden City, South Delhi (Lado Sarai, adjacent to Qutab Golf Course). Singapore chain that opened in Delhi in 2007. Madame Butterfly restaurant upstairs serves very good Chinese food. The BarSaVanh loungebar is downstairs, very cool ambience outside. Meal for two around ₹3,000.
• Manre, Bar/lounge, Saket Market, City Mall. Open bar on Thursday for ₹800.
• Orange, (Ashoka Hotel). Nightclub.
• The Other Side, ☏ +91 11 2685 396. 81/3 Adhchini (basement of Turquoise Cottage), Sri Aurobindo Marg. Ssmoky brick-walled basement covered with Western memorabilia. Eclectic music with an emphasis on rock, expect anything from Beatles to AC/DC. It is a good crowd, particularly on Wednesday's media nights. ₹500 minimum for drinks and food. Couples only. 
• Shalom, N-block market, GK-1. Cool Mediterranean-themed lounge bar/restaurant with chill-out music.
• T.L.R., 31 Hauz Khas Village. Delhi's cozy, arty refuge for tourists, expats and locals comes alive in the evenings. Live bands, DJ nights and pub quiz.
• Toast, Bar & Grill by Lazeez Affaire, Rajouri Garden, West Gate Mall (Level III). Flavored tobacco sheesha, drinks, international food, Greek, French, pan-European and Indian cuisines.
• Urban Pind/Bar/Cafe, Greater Kailash I (GK-1), block N, number 4. Bar/lounge on 3 floors. Regular events like Salsa, open bar for ₹ 720, electro night, great expat nights.
• Xes Cafe, Saket, DLF South Court Mall. A the quintessential coffee shop. Good food with an eclectic bar menu. Loud music.

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• Amigo, Bar
• Peppers, Bar.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Please unbunch the images

That's the next step. We don't want a bunch of listings for restaurants and bars to be needed in order to keep all relevant photos in those sections. Note the Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images advice as follows: "Images should be distributed throughout an article, not bunched up in any section." Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:47, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Redefining Central Delhi and New Delhi

Due to the excessive number of "See" listings in Delhi/Central Delhi and Delhi/New Delhi, I think the borders of the two districts should be redefined for the purpose of Wikivoyage. Since Delhi/Western Delhi has far fewer "See and do" listings, I think Civil Lines tehsil (i.e. the northern panhandle of Central Delhi) should be included under Western Delhi and not Central Delhi. I have already consolidated some nearby listings under one bullet (Red Fort, Raj Ghat etc.) but the problem persists. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 16:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Delhi/South Delhi and Delhi/South East Delhi are also suffering from the same problem. For South Delhi, I think there should be a separate district for Mehrauli since there are multiple significant "See" listings, too significant to be consolidated into few. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

After testing at the sandbox (using Preview mode without saving), the boundaries of Wikivoyage districts of Delhi will be the following (tehsil-wise or district-wise):

• Central Delhi - Central Delhi district (excluding Civil Lines tehsil)
• Eastern Delhi - East Delhi district, North East Delhi district and Shahdara district
• Mehrauli - Mehrauli tehsil
• New Delhi - Chanakya Puri tehsil
• South Delhi - South Delhi district (excluding Mehrauli tehsil)
• South East Delhi - South East Delhi district
• Western Delhi - New Delhi district (excluding Chanakya Puri tehsil), North Delhi district, North West Delhi district, South West Delhi district and West Delhi district

Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

I'd be happy to give you carte blanche to do what you think best, but maybe wait a day or two to see whether anyone has any specific comments. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)