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A heads up on changes to the top of the page

In a couple of edits, I moved all advice on finding sources at the top of the page here. Also, I created an information banner at the top so that folks would be more attracted to TWL and that guide I previously linked.

I cut down on some explainers so that they are shorter. Nobody reads all directions anyway, so we can just as well shorten them so that there's more chance more of that will be read. I hid copyright tips in a collapsible box because the small font doesn't work on mobile and on desktop it looks pretty bad and just clutters the page. I did not delete anything substantial from the instructions to create/respond to requests.

I boldly edited the page, and I hope it's for the better. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 01:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: Thanks, but that has caused the bot to archive much of the introductory material (see here). I can't work out why your changes did that, but for now I undid them. —Bruce1ee ^talk 06:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce1ee Didn't anticipate that one, thanks. My main point was to change the mess this page has with headers, because we start from level three headers, then go to a level two header which is kinda not needed, then new requests is under level 2 header but the title of requests sorted by month is level 1 for whatever reason? It looks odd and ugly.

I would ideally want something like the page before you reverted, but without the archiving. Maybe add

<!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 01:31, 21 October 2025 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1761010279}}

to the beginning of the section? But then why did it ignore this code under section 3 header? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 07:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: I think I've worked it out. At the end of the "Making a request" section in edit mode you'll find the archiving parameters for "User:ClueBot III". The "headerlevel" has been set to 2, which means this is the header level for the threads the bot will archive. You added a level 2 header ==How to use this page== near the top of the page, which was why the bot archived everything below it until the next level 2 header. You need to add something like

<!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 01:31, 21 October 2025 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1761010279}}

below the header to prevent the bot from archiving that section. (Some existing level 2 headers in the introduction already have that.)

User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis has documentation on how to use the archiver. —Bruce1ee ^talk 09:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great, will do! Szmenderowiecki (talk) 09:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: The bot has just run, and again it archived the instructions at the top of the page (see here), so I reverted it. I see you are using "User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil" in level 2 headers, so I don't know why your changes aren't working. —Bruce1ee ^talk 13:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: I see Mdaniels5757 has made some changes to the RX page to address the archiving problem. Hopefully this will fix it. —Bruce1ee ^talk 17:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The archiving bot has run again and everything appears to be working correctly. —Bruce1ee ^talk 06:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

access to latter day saints material on https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/

I don't know if materials there are appropriate as references (Paying $1 Million to have access is acceptable , becoming a member of a church to have access isn't) Specifically the entries in Delta Sigma and Sigma Gamma Chi collection, 1936-2000 , ideas?Naraht (talk) 17:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I found how to get an account. May be some things on the site that I can't get access to as a non-member, but we'll see.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Naraht: This question has been raised at the reliable sources noticeboard here and here. Otherwise you can ask about it at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. —Bruce1ee ^talk 17:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources pulled from here would probably be primary sources for facts like the official colors for the Fraternity/Sorority, pictures of fraternity pins and the locations for chapters. For these type of facts, generally primary sources from the Greek Letter Organizations which are available to the public have been accepted. I think we might also be OK for lists of notable Alumni, also generally accepted from Primary public sources like Pledge Manuals. Oddly, the closest that some of it may come to things that the LDS consider scripture is Ephesians 6:10-18 (New Testament) in regards to the Armor of God.Naraht (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com access has been restored

... but you will need to apply for access the way it was before the proxy-based access was introduced. See TWL talk page for details. —Bruce1ee ^talk 17:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]