Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working
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TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 6 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 29 | 29 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
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Bot processing of template parameters
[edit]Five years ago when JJMC89 was extending his excellent bot to process CFDW, there was an inconclusive discussion about also updating parameters within templates.
At that time, JJMC89 offered: "For cases where the category name is placed in a template parameter, this is easy. How do we want to cover this?
- Replace the category name in any parameter of any template
- Replace the category name in any parameter of whitelisted templates
- Replace the category name in whitelisted parameters of whitelisted templates
- Replace the category name in any parameter of non-blacklisted templates"
Options 1 and 4 could lead to unpredictable outcomes not being detected promptly. For example, I would want to check the results of updating {{Fooian fooers}} before saving.
As for options 2 and 3, Black Falcon was afraid that a whitelist would be too cumbersome, but I would like at least the following to be added to the current bot actions for renamings:
- the category parameter within {{Stub category}} e.g. [1]
- the usercategory parameter within {{Userbox}} e.g. [2]
- the unnamed first parameter in {{Non-diffusing subcategory}}, e.g. [3]
- cat1 or cat2 in {{Uncited category}} on an article page, e.g. [4]
There will always be manual follow up required for some CFDs, but these seem fair requests for a bot to handle, particularly if we're only expecting them to be edited on pages that are current members of a category being renamed.
JJMC89 notes that this would be option #3 on his above list, but TBH I think we could safely simplify that to #2.
On his talk page, JJMC89 has asked for input from other CFD regulars before taking this forward. – Fayenatic London 21:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me. Ymblanter (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think either 2 or 3 would be good. I think we should call it something other than whitelist (e.g. allowlist?) per phab:T254646 and related efforts. Would this be on-wiki? I think a fully-protected page would be a great way to do this. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JJMC89: as requested, options 2 or 3 now have explicit support from the current regulars. Did you envisage a list editable by admins on a new protected subpage, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Bot template list (or a section of WP:CFDW?), or managed by yourself within the bot code following requests on this page? – Fayenatic London 21:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)