Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 16
December 16
[edit]This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 16, 2016.
Hostage work
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 23#Hostage work
Fuezer
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:12, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
(Eubot). Delete, WP:RFD#D8, not a Germanic umlaut Si Trew (talk) 19:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Flin Flon--Northwest
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:11, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Flin Flon--Northwest → Division No. 21, Manitoba (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Flin Flon—Northwest → Division No. 21, Manitoba (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
While the double-hyphen version got kept at an earlier RFD discussion, that had more to do with its being unwisely batched with a bunch of superficially similar redirects that weren't actually equivalent and had stronger keepability grounds. This is not the name of a Canadian federal electoral district, but merely an unofficial alternate name for a geographic region, so there are no grounds for it to use an em-dash or a double-hyphen as an alternative for people who don't know how to type em-dashes — the name is seen in reliable sources as either Flin Flon hyphen Northwest or Flin Flon space Northwest, and never as Flin Flon em-dash Northwest. The correctly spelled redirects now exist, so there's no need for these because virtually no prospect exists of anybody ever actually using them — if they were actually used before, that's only because they were the only forms that existed until I created the correct ones this week, and not because anybody actually spells it this way. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per the previous discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 18:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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House of Cars
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- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:44, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- House of Cars → The Grand Tour (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Allegedly a working title for the series, but not mentioned in its article. Google results are mostly for car dealerships. BDD (talk) 18:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - There's various dealerships by this name as well as some books with this as a title. The redirect isn't right as is, and I also support deletion. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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GT (TV series)
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 27#GT (TV series)
Untitled Amazon motoring show
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Nabla (talk) 23:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- Untitled Amazon motoring show → The Grand Tour (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Grand Tour is not untitled, and this will become misleading if there are ever even rumors about another motoring show from Amazon. BDD (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep as {{R from move}}. This was the location of the article from creation on 1 January this year to being moved on 17 June, initially to Amazon motoring show, then half an hour later to the present title. If this ever does become ambiguous we can deal with it at that point. Thryduulf (talk) 19:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. No longer untitled, so thus the redirect has been deprecated and made misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 03:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. There is not an untitled Amazon motoring show. -- Tavix (talk) 20:37, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per those above.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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!?Revolution!?
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 17:36, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- !?Revolution!? → ¿¡Revolución!? (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
(Eubot). Here we have a translation of the title plus a conversion of the punctuation. However, the "¿¡" has somehow been bot-converted to "!?", i.e. not just inverted the glyphs but reversed the order. Inverted_question_and_exclamation_marks#Mixtures of question marks and exclamation points says (for Spanish) "Normally, four signs are used, always with one type in the outer side and the other in the inner side (nested) (¿¡Y tú quién te crees que eres!?, ¡¿Y tú quién te crees que eres?!)".
"?!Revolution!?" is red. The proper transliteration would be just to discard the front two characters, surely!? Delete as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense, I think. Si Trew (talk) 21:38, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Keep- it's incorrect, but perhaps this is easier to type on non-Latin keyboards? It's getting some activity, not a lot. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:41, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oh wait, missed that it's "revolution", not "revolucion", which makes it nonsense to punctuate by Spanish convention. Delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:51, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The stats tool was down so I couldn't check that. Sorry not to make it clearer that Revolution was translated. Si Trew (talk) 23:01, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not your fault, you made it as clear as you should need to if I would just pay attención to the nominacións. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:09, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- ¡Haha! Si Trew (talk) 23:45, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not your fault, you made it as clear as you should need to if I would just pay attención to the nominacións. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:09, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep someone may find this useful to get to the documentary as with Revolucion!? and I think the spell checkers on searches would want to correct to this. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Weak keep since upside-down punctuation doesn't exist in English, and the redirect is the English translation of the Spanish word. Steel1943 (talk) 03:03, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Bibliothèque
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 27#Bibliothèque
World Chess Championship 2015
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- The result of the discussion was delete the first, no consensus on the others. --BDD (talk) 17:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- World Chess Championship 2015 → World Chess Championship 2014 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- World Chess Championship 2011 → World Chess Championship 2012 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The World Chess Championship 2011 → World Chess Championship 2012 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2011 world chess championship → World Chess Championship 2012 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- World Chess Championship 2009 → World Chess Championship 2010 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is misleading; there was not a World Chess Championship in 2015. -- Tavix (talk) 20:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of World Chess Championships which clearly shows that there was no event that year. There appears to be no standard pattern to when the events are held so any given year after the first seems like a reasonable search term. If the article was organised into headed sections rather than one long table I would recommend targeting the "World Chess Championships (2006–present)" section but I don't know if anchors work in table cells? Thryduulf (talk) 21:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- I would oppose a retarget there. A redlink would clearly show that there was no event that year. We shouldn't make our readers read a list to figure that out. -- Tavix (talk) 19:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- See my reply to AngusWOOF below where I explain why a redlink does not show anything other than "We don't have an article at this title. There are several reasons why this could be the case, you could try searching for other articles or there might be some page history, a log entry and/or a deletion discussion somewhere which might (or might not) explain why - but you have to know to look for these, and how to find them." Thryduulf (talk) 15:10, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- I would oppose a retarget there. A redlink would clearly show that there was no event that year. We shouldn't make our readers read a list to figure that out. -- Tavix (talk) 19:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment were there ever plans to hold a championship or something annual for 2015, but got delayed to 2016? Targeting 2016 would make more sense then. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:06, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- This line from the 2016 article suggests not, "November 27, 2014: At the closing ceremony for the 2014 championship, FIDE president Ilyumzhinov announces the 2016 match will take place in the United States.". Thryduulf (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- World Chess Championship follow a champion/challenger format, so that would be an explanation. I found no clear rule regarding frequency on List of World Chess Championships or World Chess Championship, but many years have no championship. Place Clichy (talk) 10:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redlinks will not help users who are searching or browsing in ways that do not result in seeing search results (many), and per WP:REDLINK would encourage the creation of articles we do not want. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- That's nonsense! No one is going to create an article on a non-existent tournament. -- Tavix (talk) 18:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redlinks will not help users who are searching or browsing in ways that do not result in seeing search results (many), and per WP:REDLINK would encourage the creation of articles we do not want. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as most other years without Championships do not have a redirect to another year: 2017, 2003, 2001, 1997, 1994, 1992, 1992, 1991, 1989, 1988 etc. The few that have misleading redirects should be deleted as well: World Chess Championship 2009 and World Chess Championship 2011. Place Clichy (talk) 10:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking in to that! I've added the other two as well. -- Tavix (talk) 19:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I think the correct solution here is to create redirects to the relevant sections of the list for those years and retarget the existing ones per my first comment. Deleting these redirects will not help our readers. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's better to see a redlink, which tells our readers that there wasn't a championship that year, then confuse or disappoint them with a bluelink. -- Tavix (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- A redlink doesn't say that though. It simply says "we do not have an article about this topic", that might be because the topic doesn't exist, wasn't notable, or simply that the article hasn't been written yet. A redirect to the list of championships however does clearly show which years did and which years did not have championships. Thryduulf (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, we don't have an article on this subject because this subject does not exist. -- Tavix (talk) 14:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- But the person arriving at the redlink has no way of knowing which reason it is - we are here to educate people not make them guess why we are not. Thryduulf (talk) 15:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, we don't have an article on this subject because this subject does not exist. -- Tavix (talk) 14:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- A redlink doesn't say that though. It simply says "we do not have an article about this topic", that might be because the topic doesn't exist, wasn't notable, or simply that the article hasn't been written yet. A redirect to the list of championships however does clearly show which years did and which years did not have championships. Thryduulf (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- What would be the relevant target section ? A redirect should at least be a remotely acceptable alternative name to the target article or section. If there was a section that gives some information on why championships happen on such or such year, that would be an acceptable target, but I do not see any. Place Clichy (talk) 02:00, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- Navigation in the target article is appalling at present, but I would prefer to target the relevant section of the list. e.g. for 2015 target the section that contains 2014 and 2016 (as it's as much a plausible typo for both of them as it is wanting to know who won the next/previous year). Ideally I think the article would be far better structured with different sections for each of the different formats rather than the current massive single table (which I'm guessing will have very poor accessibility levels) but that is outside the scope of the RfD discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's better to see a redlink, which tells our readers that there wasn't a championship that year, then confuse or disappoint them with a bluelink. -- Tavix (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I think the correct solution here is to create redirects to the relevant sections of the list for those years and retarget the existing ones per my first comment. Deleting these redirects will not help our readers. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking in to that! I've added the other two as well. -- Tavix (talk) 19:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep the 2009 and 2011 ones, since the 2010 and 2012 championships were originally scheduled for 2009 and 2011. Delete World Chess Championship 2015. Sideways713 (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Sideways713: Our articles on the 2010 and 2012 don't have anything mentioning that they were scheduled for 2009 and 2011. If you could add information on the scheduling change, I would also support keeping those two as {{R from error}} and {{R from former name}}. Otherwise, delete them all. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:40, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: I added a brief note about the schedule change to the 2010 article; the 2012 article did already mention (in the Timeline of changes) that that match was originally scheduled for 2011. Both World Chess Championship 2009 and World Chess Championship 2011 are former article titles and should be tagged with {{R from page move}}.
(The 2014 article was briefly called "World Chess Championship 2015", too; but that was a single editor's quickly corrected mistake and never reflected any actual schedule.) Sideways713 (talk) 17:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: I added a brief note about the schedule change to the 2010 article; the 2012 article did already mention (in the Timeline of changes) that that match was originally scheduled for 2011. Both World Chess Championship 2009 and World Chess Championship 2011 are former article titles and should be tagged with {{R from page move}}.
- @Sideways713: Our articles on the 2010 and 2012 don't have anything mentioning that they were scheduled for 2009 and 2011. If you could add information on the scheduling change, I would also support keeping those two as {{R from error}} and {{R from former name}}. Otherwise, delete them all. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:40, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
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Idrettshall
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
“Idrettshall” is Norwegian for ‘sports center’, but sports centers have no specific association with Norwegian, so delete. Gorobay (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Specific centers that go by this name should be identified as with Idrettsgallaen or List of football stadiums in Norway. I don't see any that go specifically with Idrettshall. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Saint Mary of the Cistern
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- The result of the discussion was withdrawn - see note below. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:33, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Saint Mary of the Cistern → Church of Saint Benoit, Istanbul (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Doesn't appear to be mentioned at the target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Withdrawn - a cited alternate name of the church in Italian is Santa Maria della Cisterna. Good enough for me, and nobody else has commented. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:33, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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SCC theory
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- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 20:29, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- SCC theory → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- SCC theorists → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- SCC theorist → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- SCC theories → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-creation cosmology → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self creation cosmology → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-construction (cosmology) → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Selfcreation cosmology → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-creation cosmology theory → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Selfcreation cosmology theory → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self creation cosmology theory → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-creation cosmology theories → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Selfcreation cosmology theories → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self creation cosmology theories → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-creation cosmology theorist → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Selfcreation cosmology theorist → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self creation cosmology theorist → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self-creation cosmology theorists → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Selfcreation cosmology theorists → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self creation cosmology theorists → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Self Creation cosmology → Brans–Dicke theory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Posted as an X1 Neelix redirect at AN but doesn't seem to qualify. However, I can't tell what SCC is meant to stand for. Googling shows it could stand for many things which might be considered theories, so I suggest deletion per WP:XY. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. "SCC" is an invented abbreviation for "self-creation cosmology", a marginal theory of physics which tends to take Brans-Dicke theory as a starting point. It's not the same thing as the target, and not discussed there, though there are a lot more redirects along these lines. It's possible there should be an article on the specific topic of self-creation cosmology; in any case these redirects shouldn't point somewhere confusing. 64.105.98.115 (talk) 15:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC) Update: For clarity, I also urge deletion of the "selfcreation" redirects I have added above, most of which would be dubious even as a redirect directly to an article on self-creation cosmology. Pointing to an article not specifically on that topic is worthless. 64.105.98.115 (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to SCC. In some quick Google book searches, I'm seeing uses for Stress Corrosion Cracking [1] [2], Strongly connected component (which is a math theory), and Strict cycle condition [3] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, I tagged this as X1 on AN because the abbreviation was nonsense, so it was unlikely to survive RfD. Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 15:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: I have just expanded this nomination with the nominator's permission. Comments above this line refer to the first four nominated "SCC" redirects only unless otherwise noted. 64.105.98.115 (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Most of those that were added should be tagged as wp:x1. Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 16:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've just removed some from the nomination which were X1 deleted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:02, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Most of those that were added should be tagged as wp:x1. Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 16:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- I think that perhaps the "self creation cosmology" redirects can be kept and tagged {{R with possibilities}}, there does seem to be some scholarly writing about it. The redirects which are extensions of that topic ("... theories", "... theorists", etc) should be deleted, since the article does not mention particular scientists other than the theory's namesakes. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the search engine can take care of most of those. Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 14:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- delete all. Self creation cosmology (or Self-creation cosmology) have possibilities of having an article, but the current target has no mention of 'self nor 'cosmology'; also the few pages I found about Self creation cosmology do not mention Brans–Dicke's (but I have not searched much). So we are better of with red links. The remaining are the usual Neelix stuff, which even WP's poor search engine should be able to deal with. Nabla (talk) 17:47, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
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Bilegt haan
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Bilegt haan → Biligtü Khan Ayushiridara (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
...this barely even resembles the target. Missing diacritics, missing the letter that's supposed to have the diacritics, a misspelling (e instead of i), a pseudo-phonetic misspelling (haan for Khan) and a missing capital. No incoming links and all of two pageviews in 90 days. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 09:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - I can't see the value of this particular redirect with this particular target. The differences are too disparate. Onel5969 TT me 12:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete not mentioned in books or news sources. I don't see where this is a plausible typo search item if the media isn't making these typos or spelling variants. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Mp3codec.exe
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:09, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Not at all helpful, not mentioned in target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete not a catalog of virus names. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Vörösmarty utka
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Vörösmarty utka → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Vorosmarty utka → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] (Eubot)
- Voeroesmarty utka → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] (Eubot)
Delete all. I think "utka" an unlikely misspelling for "utca": first, in Hungarian "c" is pronounced like English "ts", not "k"; second, someone not knowing the Hungarian word "utca" ("street") is likely to take care to spell it properly. No internal links; each has just 1 hit in 90 days (all on the same day, 8 November: the target got 4 hits that day, near its median.) The harm comes from a reader or editor potentially assuming it's the correct spelling. Si Trew (talk) 06:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete the third, as ö → oe is (per previous RfD's) not correct for Hungarian. Do the same thing with the first and second (i.e. keep them both or delete them both) but I don't know enough to have an opinion which at the moment. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Budapest Metro
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:07, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Voeroesmarty utca → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Voeroesmarty Street (Budapest) → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Voeroesmarty utca (Budapest Metro) → Vörösmarty utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Voeroesmarty ter (Budapest Metro) → Vörösmarty tér (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ujpest-Koezpont → Újpest–Központ (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ujpest-Koezpont (Budapest Metro) → Újpest–Központ (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Poettyoes utca → Pöttyös utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Poettyoes utca (Budapest Metro) → Pöttyös utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kodaly koeroend (Budapest Metro) → Kodály körönd (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hosoek tere (Budapest Metro) → Hősök tere (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gyoengyoesi utca → Gyöngyösi utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gyoengyoesi utca (Budapest Metro) → Gyöngyösi utca (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Dozsa Gyoergy ut → Dózsa György út (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Dozsa Gyoergy ut (Budapest Metro) → Dózsa György út (Budapest Metro) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
(All Eubot) *Delete all, WP:RFD#D8, the "ö" is not a Germanic umlaut but a letter in the Hungarian alphabet. Each station already has a "correct" misspelling redirect, with "ö" → plain "o"; some have other reasonable variants, too. Si Trew (talk) 05:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete all per nomination. I also checked a sample for use and, for those, there were a total of 0 hits in the preceding 90 days. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Guacman
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:06, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
A pejorative nickname for Mr. Bush used by some conservatives who opposed his Presidential campaign. Such non-neutral redirects are allowed if they are in commonuse or discussed in appropriate sources, but this does not qualify either way. 64.105.98.115 (talk) 04:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - This is just an obscure bit of political trivia. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:31, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as obscure nickname/synonym --Lenticel (talk) 03:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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Japanesе
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Got here from the Eubot redirect, I don't get this. I suppose one of the characters is wrong, but I can't tell. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- via www
.branah .com /unicode-converter (the best one I found for doing whole strings with no fuss), this is \u004a\u0061\u0070\u0061\u006e\u0065\u0073\u0435 — it's the last "е" is U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE. Delete. Si Trew (talk) 06:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Personally I use a firefox addon called "character identifier", which gives the same results as Si's method - the last letter is Cyrillic. Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - wow, Thryduulf, that's brilliant. I sat looking at this saying, wtf? But now that you say the final "e" is Cyrillic, you can see the slight difference. Onel5969 TT me 12:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- That depends on the glyph used to render the character. They could well be rendered absolutely identically in many typefaces. Si Trew (talk) 16:57, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete searching for Cyrillic spelling variants on English wikipedia would be a surprise. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Japanesie
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Appears to be some slang term, not plausible. Ha! Didn't realise this was another Eubot redirect. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:21, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- The plot thins. More likely, it was created by transliterating "ie" for the Cyrillic letter in Japanesе, listed immediately above. Si Trew (talk) 06:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. "Japanesie" is a word that is used, but only when there is a need for a four-syllable word to rhyme with "easy" (e.g. "easy peasy Japanesie", c.f. "easy peasy lemon squeezy") in the few instances I see any lexical value in the uses google finds it is more likely to mean a Japanese person or Japanese culture rather than the language. However this is coincidental to its creation, and as it's not a useful redirect so there is no point retargetting it. Thryduulf (talk) 12:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Chinese and English compared
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:04, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Chinese and English compared → Chinese language (talk · links · history · stats) <smallthry>[ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Linguistic comparison of Chinese and English → Chinese language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 June 16#Linguistic comparison of Chinese and English. No information is given at target, misleading and confusing at best, the wording is also somewhat vague, as what comparison does this mean? - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- The previous discussion really didn't get going, even after relisting. Delete as WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. While the target does make some specific comparisons with English, e.g. the use of articles, and sounds in some Chinese dialects, this is not a systematic comparison as implied by the redirect title, it's just an everyday comparison with nontechnical terms. The high-tide mark of stats is 4 a day, total hits between them 31 in 90 days: I don't think there'd be any inconvenience to readers by deleting this (more likely it would be a convenience for them not to be misled). Si Trew (talk) 06:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. These are useful search terms, in that they are search terms people will use to find encyclopaedic content. As we apparently don't have that content though, we should delete this to avoid misleading people that we do (and hopefully encourage someone to create it, as I'd be quite interested to read it!). Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: You may be interested in Category:Language comparison to get an idea of what a potential article may be like. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:47, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - both the nom and the above 2 editors have said it appropriately, while useful, because of the current lack of a correct target article, it is misleading. Onel5969 TT me 12:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY and vague. Are they comparing romanization methods? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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South Koreans
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 23#South Koreans
Coreanic
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- The result of the discussion was Retarget Coreanic to Koreanic languages and Retarget Coreanist to Korean studies. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 20:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Coreanic → Korea (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Coreanist → Korea (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Invented terms, not plausible. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget "Coreanist" to Korean studies where "Koreanist" redirects as a misspelling of that word.
- Retarget "Coreanic" to Koreanic languages where "Koreanic" redirects as a misspelling of that word. Thryduulf (talk) 12:49, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget as per Thryduulf. Could be a misspelling, particularly for non-English speakers. Onel5969 TT me 12:57, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget per Thryduulf. Corea's both the appropriate way to spell it in a lot of languages and an outdated spelling in English (up until about the start of the previous century, iirc) that folks working with old sources may certainly still come across, so it's not that implausible. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 23:28, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Mike Ponce
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- The result of the discussion was delete. It's possible this is a WP:BLP violation so this needs to be deleted as soon as consensus develops, and it has. -- Tavix (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mike Ponce → Mike Pence (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a plausible typo, too far on a QWERTY keyboard. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:04, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Also possibly derogatory with "ponce" meaning "beggar" or "homosexual" in Br. English. Si Trew (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as subtle vandalism -FASTILY 05:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I suspect this is intended as derogatory but there are real people with this name, most prominently an insurance agent in California, but none who are notable in Wikipedia terms. Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom at least until Ponce gets more notability. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete It made me laugh but is otherwise a useless redirect.LM2000 (talk) 02:20, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Nocopyright
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Nocopyright → Template:PD-ineligible (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused, overly ambiguous, could just as easily imply {{PD-author}}
, , {{Attribution}}
{{PD-US-no notice}}
, etc FASTILY 02:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment This is not ambiguous, having no copyright means nobody owns the rights to the work, which is what it redirects to. Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 15:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. This is ambiguous between all forms of PD (ineligible for copyright, copyright has expired, placed in public domain domain by the author, etc) which can have different implications in different jurisdictions (e.g. rule of the shorter term, etc, etc). I do not believe it is ambiguous with {{attribution}} though. Thryduulf (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed re Attribution. Fixed it. -FASTILY 01:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Template:NoCopyright
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Template:NoCopyright → Template:PD-ineligible (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused, overly ambiguous, could just as easily imply {{PD-author}}
, , {{Attribution}}
{{PD-US-no notice}}
, etc FASTILY 02:49, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per my comments at #Template:Nocopyright. Thryduulf (talk) 16:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree that this is unhelpfully vague. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Президент.рф
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- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:42, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Президент.рф → Template:Kremlin.ru (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Президент.РФ → Template:Kremlin.ru (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused redirect to copyright template. The Russian language redirect is unnecessary IMO, because this is in fact the English Wikipedia FASTILY 02:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as not english Gamebuster19901 (Talk | Contributions) 15:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Weak Keep per WP:RFOREIGN - This has a clear affinity for the Russian language. Weak however, because it doesn't help the readership as something of this nature would in the mainspace, and I wouldn't support using this to transclude the license to files as the non-Latin characters aren't contributor friendly. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 00:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Fastily and Gamebuster19901: I've merged these two as they only have minor capitalization differences. The nomination and my comment were the same; Gamebuster19901 only commented in one, but I think it is reasonable to presume they feel the same way about both. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 00:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. In my opinion, WP:RFOREIGN should only apply to redirects in the "(Article)" namespace (and maybe the "File:" namespace) since all other namespaces do no have affinity to other languages since this is the English Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 20:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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Template:CC
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 23#Template:CC
Template:CC-BY
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 27#Template:CC-BY
Internet-based
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Partial title match, internet based what?. Not a likely search term on its own. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete and overlinked common term like age-based. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Tlus
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Implausible redirect, likely the result of a typo. It appears as though the user who created the redirect was aiming for the more plausible Tlou. —DangerousJXD (talk) 02:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete . In conflict with 'Teaching and Learning in Urban schools' acronym. Devopam (talk) 05:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Senseless nonsense. scope_creep (talk) 12:27, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - It would be one thing if the game was known by this acronym, but I can find no evidence of that (although it's a loooong article). If there were an article on 'Teaching and Learning in Urban schools' that would be an appropriate target, but as it stands now, simply delete. Onel5969 TT me 12:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per MOS:ABBR: "Use sourceable abbreviations. Avoid making up new abbreviations, especially acronyms" AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Intarnut
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Appears to be an invented term. Google only show results of pages obviously mirrored from this redirect. Not plausible as a typo. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete : Per WP:RFOREIGN , even if it exists for any regional pronunciation of the term. Devopam (talk) 05:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RTYPO (two or more typos). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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