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Category:Bishops of Alais‎

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I don't agree that WP:SMALLCAT applies here, as these are all (a) part of a larger category scheme ad (b) open to growth by the addition of further articles (for example, there were over 60 bishops of Apt). Jsmith1000 (talk) 13:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I sincerely hope you are right about the growth potential but I have my doubts. These towns are small so the chance that someone takes the effort to write an article is probably proportionally small and the fact that currently there is only one article in each of these categories doesn't promise too much. About the established tree, I would expect that this argument doesn't count if it's parented to only one category in an established tree (like bishops in this case), otherwise it would never be possible to nominate something because of WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Upmerge All per WP:NARROWCAT with no objection to recreating later if Jsmith1000 is correct and more articles appear. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:07, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, assuming thsat these are sees that subsisted for a long period. I suspect that the problem is that the English WP has poor biographical coverage of French biographies. The articles of English dioceses have long lists of articles, most of which have blue links and hence a category of this type. We need to Populate. However Die and Dié‎ are probably duplicates and should be merged to Dié‎, leaving a cat-redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French priests

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:31, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains Roman Catholic priests. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose (procedural). It would be better for someone (i.e. the nominator) to check each article in this category and (if appropriate) move the article down to the RC category - then consider deleting this category if it's an unnecessary layer. DexDor (talk) 20:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have checked the articles, if a denomination is mentioned, it's always Roman Catholic. Not always is Roman Catholic mentioned, but that obviously has to do with the fact that other denominations are very small minorities in France (4% identified as Muslim, 3% identified as Protestant, 1% identified as Buddhist, 1% identified as Jewish) and in neither of these minority denominations there are priests. So, within the French context, Roman Catholic isn't a differentiating characteristic of priest, but worldwide it is. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I still think it's better for you to move the articles to the more specific category - for one thing, what if an article (for a non-RC priest) is added to the category before the CFD is closed? DexDor (talk) 05:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not quite. E.g. if we have a Barbers category and a Barbers of Fooland category then an article about a particular barber of Fooland belongs in the more specific category until that category is deleted (e.g. by being upmerged). In this case, if the articles belong in the more specific (RC) category they can/should be moved now. DexDor (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If, as you say, French priests includes Hindu priests, then why would you want to support its merger with Roman Catholic priests? Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French clergy

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains Roman Catholic clergy. Clergy from other denominations in France can be found in its parent Category:French Christian religious leaders. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:10K races

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The result of the discussion was: rename "races" to "runs", to bring conformity with article names. Not quite a strong enough consensus here to override the article name and rename "K" to "km"—it could be the subject of a new rename proposal, though, if users want to pursue it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current name doesn't distinguish what types of 10K race these are (e.g. running? cycling? swimming? car racing?). The current main page for the topic is 10K run and renaming based on this clearly distinguishes the topic matter. Same applies for 5K run. SFB 19:10, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lithuanian Athletics Champions

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Lithuanian national athletics champions (see related discussion immediately below). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:24, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current title has unusual capitalisation and does not easily convey that the "champion" aspect relates to national level, and not international, competition. SFB 18:10, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:German Athletics Champions

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:German national athletics champions. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current title has unusual capitalisation and does not easily convey that the "champion" aspect relates to national level, and not international, competition. SFB 18:08, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dominican Republic people of Lazian descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge, although it is currently empty. This close is authority for speedy merging of the other regional sub-cats within Category:Dominican Republic people of Italian descent. Note that the one for Calabria will need a double upmerge as there is also a regional parent Category:People of Calabrian descent. – Fayenatic London 07:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For a start, when I saw this category, I thought to myself "huh?". Upon closer inspection, I presume "Lazian" means "of or pertaining to Lazio". I am not so familiar with Italian geography, but that is beside the point. I don't know why Dominican Republic people should be categorised by Italian-region descent, when Category:Dominican Republic people of Italian descent is fully sufficient. Nice idea, in a way, but where does this stop? "Botswanan people of Westphalian descent"? I propose that this category be deleted; whether this is a WP:SMALLCAT-issue or other WP:OVERCAT topic, I am not sure, but I believe there should be some discussion, somewhere, if such categories are going to be created in the future. Jared Preston (talk) 18:01, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Protestant religious leaders by denomination

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. – Fayenatic London 22:10, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename to make it more clear that this category is open for all protestant clergy. Consistent naming with its brother category Category:Protestant clergy by period and consistent with many of its child categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Heronries in Britain

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 09:02, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Renaming from Britain to UK better fits the parent category and by-country categorization. Alternatively, upmerge the (currently 3) articles to Category:Herons and Category:Birds in the United Kingdom. DexDor (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • We categorize many fixed individual natural objects (mountains, rivers etc) by which country/ies they are in. If we categorized natural objects in natural regions and man-made objects in countries then we'd be categorizing lakes in Water-bodies-of-the-British-Isles and categorizing reservoirs in Water-bodies-of-the-United-Kingdom which would not be helpful. Also, in much of the world it would be difficult/impossible to decide what regions to use and where exactly the boundaries are. Categorizing by country isn't perfect (e.g. articles about the Falkland Islands are currently, via UK cats, in Category:Geography of Europe), but afaics it's the best practical scheme. DexDor (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- Opposing this nom would suggest that we should have an all-Ireland category, but we have normally resisted having all-Ireland categories, except where things are organised on an all-Ireland basis, as with Trades Unions and horse-racing. Any protected heronries in NI will be protected by British or NI law, not Irish law, so that there is some merit in a UK category. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:56, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Geography of Austria-Hungary

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 17:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Note that its single child category Category:Kingdoms and countries of Austria-Hungary is already parented to Category:History of Austria-Hungary which is a better way of parenting than to Geography. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:DC Animated Film Universe

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 07:16, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. There is only one article on the category, and doesn't seems like other users are using it, since they do not add Justice League: Throne of Atlantis to it. NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:38, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:German prelates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:46, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Note: if the nomination is granted, Category:Prelates by nationality becomes obsolete and can be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It's not clear if the term "prelate" is being used in a consistent way across these categories. The article prelate suggests quite a varied usage, making such a categorisation not very definitive (i.e. contents may not especially share characteristics any more than other clergy categories would). SFB 20:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Latin American leaders ousted by the United Fruit Company

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 17:48, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete - unless someone can find a suitable place in the categorization scheme for this to fit - e.g. Category:Leaders ousted by the United Fruit Company by continent or Category:Latin American leaders by ousting company. DexDor (talk) 05:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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