Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom and Jerry: Back to Oz

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The result was merge to List of Tom and Jerry feature films. Presuming that someone will take the time to upgrade the target from a redirect to a proper list. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tom and Jerry: Back to Oz

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Non-notable film, no significant independent coverage from reliable sources, per WP:NF, deproded without addressing concerns BOVINEBOY2008 11:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of Tom and Jerry feature films, and expand that article from a redirect into a full article. Per the comments of Bovine, the Dutch website is not a reliable source, so this does not pass NF. However, there is still one reliable source, and a list of Tom and Jerry movies would easily pass WP:LISTN, so that seems like the best course of action. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Keep, it is rather borderline, but I think this passes NFILM and WP:GNG. There is a review by Common Sense Media here: [1] and also another review here by a Dutch website: [2], I cannot read Dutch, but putting text into google translate and looking at the website it seems like a reliable source. There is also another review here: [3] but I have doubts about the reliability of that website. Devonian Wombat (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks like the Dutch website is a blog, meaning the CSM seems to be the only notable review. And WP:NF asks for two or more nationally known critis. BOVINEBOY2008 13:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 14:05, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- - Not sure it's a blog, going by this here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if WP:NF cannot, as stated above, be met. --Cornellier (talk) 17:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Even if it doesn't technically meet the review guidelines in WP:NF (and I'm not sure that it doesn't), are we not allowed to consider the fact that Tom & Jerry as a franchise is incredibly notable? Every other spin-off film on the Tom and Jerry filmography page has its own separate article; it doesn't make sense to just delete this one. Kalethan (talk) 18:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Notability is not inherited. Perhaps some of the articles should not exist, or perhaps they should be merged into an article. A majority of them simply list the cast and plot, and there really isn't much other information available for the films. BOVINEBOY2008 19:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's fair. I could probably get behind a merge or a subsidiary list, I just don't think it makes sense to dong this one film and leave the rest of them as-is. Kalethan (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - It would take some concerted effort to reduce the plot summaries, but I think a list would be a great compromise. BOVINEBOY2008 19:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to a list sounds fine to me. BD2412 T 01:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to list, doesn't seem to be independently notable. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:45, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to list There are lots of them, we don't need separate page for each. Srijanx22 (talk) 13:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge a condensed form of this article, and any others like this, into a new list article. The list would likely meet WP:LISTN, but one review by Common Sense Media doesn't indicate a GNG pass. The list currently doesn't exist, but might as well start it with this one. Hog Farm (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.