Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Armenian Kingdom of Mitanni
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-29 06:06Z
- The Armenian Kingdom of Mitanni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is a POV fork, which Wikipedia:Content forking says may be deleted. Merge was a suggestion, however there is nothing in this article which is not in Mitanni itself which is cited by a reliable source and thus worth saving. Thanatosimii 06:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect to Mitanni per nom.--Metropolitan90 06:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, the one problem with that is that the pov fork was created to promulgate the view that Mitanni was Armenia; a claim that the editors responsible have been incapable of substantiating with even one reliable source for citation. Thus, no redirect is probably a better idea, because "Armenian Kingdom of Mitanni," lest so much as one source can be produced, is POV propoganda to begin with. Thanatosimii 06:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Just delete in that case. --Metropolitan90 17:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The speed by which such articles relating to Armenia or Armenians are created is scarring. The same two users who better read Wikipedia guidelines and policies before creating this sort of articles. This must stop. Fad (ix) 06:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete (do not even redirect), pure pov-fork. dab (𒁳) 10:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As quickly as possible. -- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 17:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete asap, just a POV fork. -Advanced 18:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete obviously; this article is the perfect awnser to the question what is a pov fork.--Aldux 18:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge - I have read both this and Mitanni and this article contains details (for example about Nairi, Maryannu, Queen Nefertiti, Urartu, and other relevant images of Mitanni etc) which Mitanni does not contain. ॐ Kris (☎ talk | contribs) 15:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Which would be fine and good except the details are patently false. The editors who created this page tried to insert these details into a number of established articles and had their changes removed by editors who demanded citations by reliable sources. A month or so later, they have yet to produce one reliable source. Because they couldn't insert their stuff in the real pages because they can't cite it with reliable sources, they make up pov-forks among other things. Thanatosimii 16:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The details are NOT false these come from scholars and historians and books they wrote and published its not accepted among many scholars because historians can barely trace back Armenia to urartu and going further confuses the history but i think deleting it is good. Nareklm 02:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Scholars, historians, and books"- This is exactly why it's a false page. No citations from reliable sources; not one, despite requests for them for a month now. Your response is a case in point example of why the page has to be deleted. Thanatosimii 04:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay? Do you want text from the book? Nareklm 04:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not the appropriate venue. You have already had one month to provide reliable sources. Thanatosimii 04:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- One month? When was this? Nareklm 04:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not the appropriate venue. You have already had one month to provide reliable sources. Thanatosimii 04:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay? Do you want text from the book? Nareklm 04:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It has been one month or so since this stuff began being put all over ANE pages, and it has been met at every turn with a request for Reliable Sources. Thanatosimii 04:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay but you never gave me a month Ararat arev and me are diffrent people. Nareklm 04:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Your edits have also been in the same way removed on at least one occasion. Thanatosimii 04:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Your point? These historians are real and they have fascinating books if you reject this theory thats your opinion but basing on facts and evidence they recovered alot of this is true. You can go buy the book and read it. Your edits and Dacy's are similar also, and Ararat and me are not the only people in the world who see this as history the mitanni kingdom of armenia these are all evidence and documents recovered in the Armenian highland. You obviously reject this for some reason and mentioning these are important its part of mitanni history i assume these historians just made it up. They even gave lectures in Boston a while ago. Historians, Scholars, Books those are all reliable and i never knew giving reliable sources has a deadline.
- Nobody says that these so called "historians" don't exist, they sure do. It's just that they are a fringe minority that nobody really takes seriously :)-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 05:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Your point? These historians are real and they have fascinating books if you reject this theory thats your opinion but basing on facts and evidence they recovered alot of this is true. You can go buy the book and read it. Your edits and Dacy's are similar also, and Ararat and me are not the only people in the world who see this as history the mitanni kingdom of armenia these are all evidence and documents recovered in the Armenian highland. You obviously reject this for some reason and mentioning these are important its part of mitanni history i assume these historians just made it up. They even gave lectures in Boston a while ago. Historians, Scholars, Books those are all reliable and i never knew giving reliable sources has a deadline.
- Your edits have also been in the same way removed on at least one occasion. Thanatosimii 04:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay but you never gave me a month Ararat arev and me are diffrent people. Nareklm 04:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Scholars, historians, and books"- This is exactly why it's a false page. No citations from reliable sources; not one, despite requests for them for a month now. Your response is a case in point example of why the page has to be deleted. Thanatosimii 04:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The details are NOT false these come from scholars and historians and books they wrote and published its not accepted among many scholars because historians can barely trace back Armenia to urartu and going further confuses the history but i think deleting it is good. Nareklm 02:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Which would be fine and good except the details are patently false. The editors who created this page tried to insert these details into a number of established articles and had their changes removed by editors who demanded citations by reliable sources. A month or so later, they have yet to produce one reliable source. Because they couldn't insert their stuff in the real pages because they can't cite it with reliable sources, they make up pov-forks among other things. Thanatosimii 16:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, POV content fork. CRGreathouse (t | c) 09:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.