Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rick Baxter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Baxter

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Hello, I am writing to delet Rick Baxter, this is soley based on the deletion of current Escondio City Council Woman Diaz. Though Rick Baxter WAS an elected official, is catastrophic decline to used car dealer makes him someone who really doesn't make hi news worthy. Moreover, his page, which is fraught with inaccuracy and pontification to out-and-out lies, further deminish not only his credibility, but the reason he should be deleted from the site.

To continue, if the Escondido Council woman who has overcome so much diversity to be elected in a larger city, that is even the more reason for him to be deleted as he represented a very small portion of Michigan, with less people than that of the City of Escondido itself.

I rely on Wikipedia for the starter point for much of my research and this person is not even remotly significant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdjoebrown (talk • contribs) 27 October 2010

Comment: This nomination was not properly completed when it was created on 27 October (steps 1 and 3 were not completed). The article was prodded by JzG (talk · contribs) on 5 November with the rationale "Unsourced biogrpahy of a car salesman." [sic]. I have removed the prod to allow this AfD to properly take its course. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 17:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 17:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Since he did indeed serve as a state representative, he qualifies under WP:POLITICIAN. City council members don't receive the same treatment as state and provincial legislators. Mandsford 17:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can see two aspects of this: Notability and BLP.
On the notability front the challenge may fail. Notability isn't temporary. If something was ever notable, then it's notable forever. Wikipedia has, and ought to have, articles on all kinds of topics that are purely of historical interest. But I don't know how important a county leader is, over in the US, and it may be that this person fails WP:POLITICIAN. I don't need to parse that in any detail, because over and above the nominator's challenge, there's also a BLP issue.
On the BLP front the challenge undoubtedly succeeds. We simply can't have articles on living people with so few sources, and I've not been able to find any others. With apologies to Mandsford, with whom I often agree, I have to disagree in this case and say delete.—S Marshall T/C 18:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(Later) Apparently JimMillerJr is better at searching for sources than I am! I'm now much happier with the sources and I've struck my "delete" accordingly.—S Marshall T/C 18:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Baxter was a member of both a county legislature and a state legislature, and easily passes WP:POLITICIAN. I have added some sources, but much of what inevitably exists is probably going to be located behind paywalls or dropped off of news sites due to the timing of his officeholding (2002-2008). Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 18:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Also, while searching for sources I cam across this news piece detailing some background on the history of this article. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 19:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baxter was listed as the 64th district member of the Michigan House of Representatives (2007-09) in this [1]. WP:POLITICIAN doesn't give a free pass to county officials, but it is policy on "members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature". Mandsford 01:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Unquestionably notable, Republican State Representative in the Michigan House of Representatives . May need some editing to remove some fluff. DGG ( talk ) 02:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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