Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H. Welborn Ayres

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The result was delete. Seems like the delete camp has a made a compelling argument that WP:JUDGE is not met. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:14, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

H. Welborn Ayres

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Fails WP:JUDGE. Not notable local judge. A The Louisiana Circuit Courts of Appeal judge is not a statewide judge. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - WP:JUDGE says that they are notable if they held statewide office. I would say a 2nd circuit court of appeals qualifies although it may need a RfC for clarification. Kb03 (talk) 13:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes WP:JUDGE and WP:ANYBIO.--PATH SLOPU 13:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Path slopu:, @Kb03: The Louisiana Circuit Courts of Appeal are not statewide courts but one of 'five circuits, each covering a different group of parishes. JUDGE reads- "The following are presumed to be notable: Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) So you have to be statewide....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. William is correct that serving on a district court circuit below the statewide level is not an automatic free pass of WP:JUDGE, but this is not referenced anywhere near well enough to get him over WP:GNG: four of the eight sources are purely routine election coverage of the type that isn't enough in and of itself, because such sources always exist for everybody who holds any elected role regardless of whether that role clears our notability standards or not, and the other four are purely genealogical sources that have no bearing on notability at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is not a statewide appointment so it does not give default notability, and the sourcing is thus inadequate.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete State appellate judges are not automatically notable, these routine local news sources don't establish it. Reywas92^Talk 05:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.