Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felicia Tang (4th nomination)

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The result was keep. I would recommend a discussion to see if a rename to Death of Felicia Tang is warranted. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Felicia Tang

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Classic ONEEVENT. No notability outside her death and with no conviction there is no enduring notability and therefore fails NOT Spartaz ^Humbug! 14:58, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This AfD feels like a clear case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT regardless of previous voting consensus! :/ Govvy (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This does not articulate a reason for keeping the article, and thus will be discarded. Zaathras (talk) 21:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? You have no right to strike my vote. Govvy (talk) 21:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your !vote doesn't have to be struck. Closing admins are free to discount votes not based in policy or evidence. • Gene93k (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent AfD debate (2016) closed as no consensus. • Gene93k (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per BLP1E. Generally there's a possibility of converting biographies like this to an article on the event, but there doesn't appear to be notability for the event either. 174.254.193.255 (talk) 20:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. She is very attractive, as noted in the first AfD, but the only reliable sources are just about her death. See WP:BLP1E GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 20:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Only coverage is as part of a routine (for Vegas anyways) murder, nothing else significant or special. One event, no lasting interest or importance. Zaathras (talk) 21:06, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and convert to event - routine murders do not have enduring coverage 5 years later on national television.[1] Morbidthoughts (talk) 21:57, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but rename – article is sourced well, if a little messily. However, article should be renamed as "Death of Felicia Tang" and any relevant biographical information about Tang should be used in a subsection of the article. Per Govvy's rationale above, sounds like a classic case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. (Please ping me if you choose to reply). Sean Stephens (talk) 02:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some sources on the topic in question for anyone who believes she lacks notability:
- Stevenson, Chuck; Fisher, Greg; Prior, Sarah (2 August 2014). "The mysterious death of Felicia Tang". CBS News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- Hime, Thomas (20 October 2009). "Coroner: Adult actress from Monrovia died of asphyxiation". Los Angeles Daily News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- Fisher, Greg (5 August 2014). "48 Hours: When a case is a 'slam dunk' -- and when it's not". CBS News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- Smith, Ryan (30 September 2009). "Felicia Tang Lee Murder: Reality show preacher pleads not guilty". CBS News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- Pesce, Anthony (11 September 2009). "Felicia Lee, 31 – Homicide Report". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 12 October 2020.

-- Sean Stephens (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A few more:

- William-Ross, Lindsay (14 November 2011). "Did a preacher and "Sexiest Bachelor in America" contestant murder his porn star girlfriend?". LAist. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- William-Ross, Lindsay (29 September 2009). "Porn star tortured and killed". ABC News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.
- Smith, Ryan (29 October 2009). "Felicia Tang Lee Murder: Reality show preacher Brian Lee Randone will stand trial". CBS News. Retrieved 12 October 2020.

-- Sean Stephens (talk) 07:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many would say this only cements the argument of WP:ONEEVENT. There's literally nothing to say about the subject other than "she was murdered", which unfortunately in America happens every day. Zaathras (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable pornographic performer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:42, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - @Johnpacklambert:, how is this contribution at all helpful to this debate? You don't explain why or give any reasoning. Deus et lex (talk) 11:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I concur with the nominator's assessment. This is a biography of one event, a sensational death. Crime stories typically get two bursts of coverage, first when the crime happens and the second during a trial. RS interest for this case followed this pattern and faded away after the 2014 trial verdict. The actress as no other claim of notability. • Gene93k (talk) 07:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Commment - I don't think that is correct, if you read the last AfD the trial verdict was in 2011 but the case was still receiving coverage at least 3 years later. Deus et lex (talk) 11:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:33, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per research by Sean Stephens, above, but to consider editorial rename through discussion as well, to Death of Felicia Tang, also per Sean Stephens good suggestion, above. Right cite (talk) 21:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but rename the page to Death of Felicia Tang like what Right cite suggested. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) , 2:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC).
Keep but rename per Right cite - the death and trial were notable events and the independent sources in the article suggest there was ongoing coverage for several years afterwards. The previous AfDs have pointed out some helpful sources about the ongoing notability. Deus et lex (talk) 00:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, sufficient coverage. No opinion on the title which is not an issue for AFD. MB 04:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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