Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elon Musk in popular culture

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The result was merge to Elon Musk#In popular culture. Consensus is this is not appropriate for a standalone. If someone wants to create and change target to Filmography, that can be handled editorially. Star Mississippi 13:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elon Musk in popular culture

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This is a major mess, if rather short. Titled "in popular culture", the claim that "Elon Musk has influenced or been referenced in many works of popular culture." is unreferenced, and what follows is a mish mash or trivia. Musk appears in film x, made guest appearance in tv show y, voiced character z, was in talk show a, youtube video b... Nothing here even shows he has been influential on popcultue more than any midly successful celebrity, it's all based on primary/passing mentions (OR!), plus totally weird stuff like "In 2021, Musk coauthored a peer-reviewed scientific paper on COVID-19 together with, among others, Pardis Sabeti.[24] Since Sabeti has an Erdős number of 3,[25] Musk has an Erdős number of 4.[26] Given his Bacon number of 2, Musk consequently has an Erdős–Bacon number of 6." What is this even about? Or "In December 2021, the International College of Businessry and Managering published the first in a series of scholarly articles performing a detailed analysis of Musk's leadership strategies[29] likening them to Art of War by Sun Tzu." How's this even relevant? Even if we allowed OR, this is a pretty poorly done piece. I don't think this mess even fails WP:NOTTVTROPES, it's just a chaotic listing of his media appearances and few references. But for people who would dlik a more policy-sound argument: this fails WP:IPC and MOS:POPCULT/TRIVIA, as a list, WP:NLIST and WP:SALAT, as a potential topic, an WP:GNG and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:OR due to failure of showing that this topic is subject to in-depth, reliable coverage. A redirect to Elon_Musk#In_popular_culture may be fine, as that section does contain a single refenced sentence about him being popular in China. If it is expanded and grows, it may be split off, but this subarticle warrants nothing but WP:TNT treatment. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:22, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Popular culture. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:22, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Elon Musk#In popular culture as a WP:ATD while keeping the most major pertinent info. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm Any thoughts on what here is mergeable? The content is referenced, but is any of it relevant? We risk the usual degeneration of this (seen even in the first para on Elon Musk's main bio) of "ah, in pop culture means we get to list all the works which mention him or portray him, right"? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:37, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to a Filmography section. Most of these appearances are verifiable, but there's not much to say other than they happened. Not to say the subject of this article is an actor, but he has cameo appearances that are similar enough to one. That's how we typically cover this type of topic. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:47, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. A filmography section of a Foo topic can list their appearances in such media, without running into OR claims that they constitute some form of special impact on popculture. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and let disputes over what fits be settled internally. Or go ask Elon what he wants. Hyperbolick (talk) 02:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but rename to something like "Elon Musk filmography" to his many appearances in film, television, documentaries, even if they are brief they attract much media coverage. Musk's personal biography is already too long to have this kind of infomation. Spy-cicle💥 ^Talk? 16:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Spy-cicle Filmography is fine, but what about the parts that mention his appearance in YouTube videos or in books...? Is Elon Musk in media an encyclopedic topic, per WP:GNG? I have major doubts. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.