Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commune (model of government) (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 06:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commune (model of government)

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Discussion continued on the talk page following the last AfD and ended with agreement to return to AfD for deletion, seeing as there is no common literature on a commune "model of government" or even relating the various insurrections/revolutionary governments colloquially known as "communes". There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Pinging prior participants @Otr500, Goldsztajn, Spinningspark, 力, and AusLondonder. czar 04:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. czar 04:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per Nom. See comments below. -- Otr500 (talk)
Delete: Per Nom. Pages such as Intentional community and the disambig page: Commune already exist. Etriusus (Talk) 19:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This is one of those articles that people often want to argue Keep for because it feels like a natural topic for an article, but as czar has repeatedly shown, "Commune (model of government)" is a larger topic than any particular branch of study. As Otr500 has pointed out, the disamb page that covers the implied topics of this article already exists at Commune. -- asilvering (talk) 21:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The scope of this article is too broad (no clear direction) for a reader to learn exactly what is attempted to be portrayed. "Commune", as a political entity could be a Participatory democracy, a revolutionary government (Paris Commune), a self-governing province (Jeju Province), city-state (Principality of Monaco) or other "political organization" (from the article) such as a state, that includes "...theories about a certain range of political phenomena." This article (last sentence in the opening paragraph) states: At its core, a commune is just an organization which creates social conditions that prioritize the primacy of the collective over the individual. --- and there you have it. A commune as a model of government is a type of Intentional community. This article branches into Marxist ideologies, the same as State (polity), and delves into to mini-communes (Intentional community that could include squatters) and even workers-organizations. It looks like synthesis with some original research thrown in. Political philosophy articles need to be reliably sourced at every instance so we don't end up with unsourced editors comments exampled by everything after the source: "This hypothetical is an example...". I do not see how chopping the article back to a stub can produce anything of encyclopedic value that is not covered somewhere else. -- Otr500 (talk) 13:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.