Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chimango Chirwa (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. There's longstanding consensus that ambassadors are not inherently notable. Sandstein 15:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chimango Chirwa

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fails WP:BIO. the keep votes were far from convincing last AfD as there is no inherent notability in positions held . Those arguing keep would be best served actually showing sources. LibStar (talk) 11:20, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ambassadors are not default notable, so unless people can show sources we should delete the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:52, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:46, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:46, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I used to argue that ambassadors should be notable by default, but I have since abandoned that approach, and there is nothing else here to suggest that person passes WP:NBIO. His name can be mentioned on a related list or lists, that's enough. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:40, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. An ambassador is the official represent of one nation to another - It's hard for me to see a better argument for eligibility than that! Oleryhlolsson (talk) 12:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, there is no such thing as automatic notability simply because an individual is an ambassador - needs to be supported by evidence that the individual is notable. There is plenty of precedence for the deletion of articles on ambassadors where there is no evidence of notability. Dan arndt (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt: you haven't actually !voted yet. LibStar (talk) 10:42, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I'm not as familiar with African politics as other editors however there are a number of recent news mentions of Chirwa's involvement into fraud investigations involving the Malawi embassy. It appears that Chirwa has strong ties to the President- I don't know if there is enough there to establish notability or not.

Dan arndt (talk) 01:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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