Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapstick lesbian (3rd nomination)
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:31, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
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Manifestly non-notable former neologism; now an extinct vogue word. This is getting ridiculous; please salt. Mathglot (talk) 20:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment – Not every cutesy expression ever uttered on Ellen or a thousand other talk shows needs its own article on Wikipedia. Redirects are cheap, but this doesn't need one, as Advanced search turns up sufficient articles to refer to. I wouldn't object to a redirect with full protection, however. Also, not sure if I can add ChapStick lesbian to this report. Mathglot (talk) 21:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. – The Grid (talk) 22:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - The term itself, and attribution to Ellen, is already mentioned in the Lipstick lesbian article. Orville1974 (talk) 13:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-notable neologism. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Topic is misleading.Silika. O. Silika {talk} 17:07, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NEO, possibly expand the mention of the term in lipstick lesbian Laurel Wreath of Victors ‖ Speak 💬 ‖ 05:53, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NEO in that there are multiple reliable sources ([1] [2] [3]) that are about the term. The term also received significant coverage in this source. It has been used in various books, articles, and scholarly papers. Notably, in this passage that was published in Industrial and Labor Relations Review:
Terms such as “femme,” “lipstick lesbian,” “chapstick lesbian,” and “butch” refer to variations in physical expression of gender among queer women. Among queer men, terms such as “butch,” “bear,” “otter,” “swish,” and “twink” differentiate between gay men of different physical appearance.
- each term listed currently has its own Wikipedia article (except for "otter", which is a redirect).
- Furthermore, deletion (especially if the article is salted and no redirect is allowed) would only further systemic bias. We allow an endless amount of articles on subcategories of homosexual males (Bear (gay culture), Castro clone, Chicken (gay slang), Chickenhawk (gay slang), Chub (gay slang), Daddy (slang), Queen (slang), Swish (slang), Troll (gay slang), Twink (gay slang)), but somehow a commonly used subcategory of homosexual females is dismissed as a "cutesy expression" and not worthy of even a redirect? --Surachit (talk) 20:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination this text about a non-notable subject, which may become notable in the future; as of yet, it is not. Wikipedia is not the apothecary of slang or neologismss. This is not a lexikon. A Redirect to another, related article, such as lipstick lesbian or lesbian, would not be out of place. -The Gnome (talk) 09:58, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.