Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ally Adnan

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The result was delete. Interviews dont count to notability Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ally Adnan

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no in depth coverage in the RS. Saqib (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review. I have added more information and links in RS. Length has also been shortened. If this is still not acceptable, please leave some detail notes as to what needs to be done here. Sayyonee19 (talk) 07:34, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Ally Adnan is a notable newspaper columnist and a journalist in Pakistan. He regularly writes for many leading English language newspapers of Pakistan including The Express Tribune, The Nation (Pakistan) and Daily Times (Pakistan). I personally have been using his written articles on music as References to edit on Wikipedia for nearly 5 years. Also today, I went ahead and tried to improve the original article and have fixed some given references by the original article creator User:Sayyonee19. The article creator deserves some credit here for leaving me 11 references to work with including 4 major newspapers of Pakistan...THANKS...Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:31, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a valid reason to keep this BLP. --Saqib (talk) 04:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep References to a recently published interview of Ally Adnan has also been included now. Additionally, his interviews of singers and actors are actually referenced in other wikipedia pages such as Reference 3 in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahira_Syed and reference 14 in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Malik. There are also other examples such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tari_Khan & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rais_Khan. This, along 12+ citations from well known national Pakistani news papers and magazines is pretty decent coverage. Sayyonee19 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

— Sayyonee19 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I have removed sources which are non-independent to the subject. This BLP still contains several questionable sources such as videos. --Saqib (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Just now I saw the comment above that User:Sayyonee19 has not written anything on Wikipedia outside of this topic. This is a separate issue for Wikipedia staff to look into. In my view, that should not affect the status of an article about a well-known and noted journalist, movie and music critic of Pakistan, Ally Adnan. Yes, I am calling him that because three major newspapers of Pakistan namely- Dawn (newspaper), The Express Tribune, The Nation (Pakistan) have been featuring his written articles for several years on the above topics. Daily Times (Pakistan), Newsline (magazine) have also been printing his articles. Not Notable? How much more proof does one need? It's a short stub-article that had 11 different references on 22 November 2017, when I had last worked on it. Yes, I like reading his articles. It's one of the reasons I worked on it to try to improve it. Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Writing or working for major newspaper doesn't makes one notable automatically. --Saqib (talk) 04:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: Let's both think about it. Then why would Wikipedia constantly remind us all to give references from major newspapers? I'll say again that many major newspapers of Pakistan have been featuring his articles over several years now. In my view, he's a notable journalist....Ngrewal1 (talk) 14:16, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As I said earlier above writing for newspapers does not make one's notable. You need to read WP:BIO because you're misinterpreting the policy which instead says which says A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. --Saqib (talk) 15:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Agrees with Saqib that we need significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ^{Babymissfortune} 06:07, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete One interview and a little coverage that he was speaking in an event not enough. Need coverage about him - not from him. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment One can only try to keep two inter-related topics separate just so much. After all, Wikipedia biography articles generally have a list of books (bibliography) written by a writer on his article. Ngrewal1 (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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