Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015–16 Ayr United F.C. season

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2015–16 Ayr United F.C. season

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Article is unnecessary, offers no more content or context than available at Ayr United F.C. and is unlikely to be updated. Exxy (talk) 20:23, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS. Giant Snowman 17:08, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
These are professional clubs and I'm fairly certain with work they could meet GNG, however a mass of articles were created that no one has any intention of updating. As the nominator says they offer no more in there current state than the main article. GS we do usually allow articles at this level and it certainly wouldn't have less coverage than the English National League. However it is my view they should be deleted. Blethering Scot 21:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is in the process of being updated. Sgcosh (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 19:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Article has been significantly updated since it was initially flagged for deletion. It now offers more content not available at Ayr United F.C., making the original reason for flagging this article no longer valid. This article should no longer be considered for deletion. Sgcosh (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep User:Sgcosh (talk) has now made some substantial edits to the article, however this editors contributions are fairly intermittent. I'd suggest there is merit to keeping the article, so long as it doesn't get forgotten about, as similar articles such as 2013–14 Ayr United F.C. season and 2014–15 Ayr United F.C. season have. Exxy (talk) 20:32, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NSEASONS. Number 5 7 14:33, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion this article meets WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS. This is a professional club. There is large precedent of allowing articles at this level, with it receiving coverage similar to the English National Leagues. Sgcosh (talk) 18:45, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
NSEASONS specifically requires the league to be professional, not the club. Number 5 7 15:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
By that logic, articles such as 2009–10 Livingston F.C. season, 2012–13 Rangers F.C. season, 2013–14 Rangers F.C. season and 2014–15 Bristol Rovers F.C. season should not exist as none of these teams played in a professional league during these seasons. Exxy (talk) 19:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I fully agree, although the Rangers seasons almost certainly meet the GNG and their case is a highly unusual one that WP:IAR probably applies to. Number 5 7 22:01, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Basis for nomination appears entirely false. Suggesting that it is unlikely to be updated seems false given that it has been significantly updated. Also looking at the article last year and earlier years for the same team in the same league 2014–15 Ayr United F.C. season it was updated many times, and is well referenced. Nfitz (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:NSEASONS. The club do no play in a fully professional league, nor in the top tier of their respective country therefore, by neither count could they be considered to be competing in a "top professional league" per NSEASONS. Perhaps at the end of the season, there will be sufficient significant, non-routine, reliable coverage to create an article comprising significant elements of sourced prose, but not at the moment. So far the article has only one reference from a non-primary source. Fenix down (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - article is well referenced. Ayr United are (presently) a fully professional club [1] and have played other professional clubs this season (eg1 Dunfermline, eg2 Rangers). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 05:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - WP:NSEASONS states that they should consist of well sourced prose and not just lists of stats etc. I think the prose section needs to be fleshed out a lot more. There's not even an entry for June so far. --Jimbo^[online] 15:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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