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Tom G Palmer

Dear Willmcw: I am appealing for your intervention in the case of the Tom G. Palmer page, and don't know how else to get in touch with you. Please visit that page and reference the discussion. Your edit is being systematically vandalized. -Rothbard 12:40, Oct 1, 2005 (UTC)

I'll try to take a look when I've got a chance. -Willmcw 21:36, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

CfD

I'm on the prowl for competent editors who are coming up on recent changes to take a look at the CfD for a nightmare category. If you have time, please take a look. Thanks. 172 | Talk 23:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

S

Sorry, I got the wrong page when I added the Ss. There has been someone going around altering my pages to US English, so I thought I'd see how he likes it. Rather immature I know and it looks like I hit the wrong guy anyway.Bartimaeus 10:56, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Metrolink (Southern California) map link

Hi Willmcw. I noticed that you added back the transit-rider.com map link to the Metrolink article. While I support the idea of having a direct map link in the article, there is a technical problem with the link you provided.

It looks like Transit-Rider.com's web server is not set up to serve PNG images correctly. They are being returned with a generic MIME type of application/octet-stream, instead of the correct MIME type of image/png. What this means is that that link is only directly viewable in Internet Explorer (since it ignores the HTTP standards and uses the file extension to guess the file type). Mozilla-based browsers (and I suspect Opera (browser) and Safari (browser) too) will show a "download this file" dialog instead of displaying it.

There is nothing you can do about this per se, but it might be nice to notify transit-rider.com of the configuration problem to allow users of non-IE browsers to easily view the image. Mike Dillon 00:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps this is due to a setting in browsers. The page come up fine for me in Opera 8.5. Firefox exhibits the behavior you mention. Too bad there is problem, it's a good map. -Willmcw 00:27, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Glad to hear it works in more than just IE. However, I don't think that Mozilla-based browsers have a setting that will allow them to display the image. Are you interested in contacting Transit-Rider.com about fixing their server configuration, or would you like me to do so since I'm already familiar with their problem from a technical level? Mike Dillon 01:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you please? Thanks, -Willmcw 01:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

The MIME type thing is not a problem when the URL is in an HTML image tag (as it is on the Transit Rider site), so I think it would actually be better to link to http://www.transit-rider.com/ca.losangeles/metrolink.cfm?id=map instead of directly to the PNG. Mike Dillon 01:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that loads perfectly in Firefox. -Willmcw 01:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Cool, I've updated the article to point to the page instead of the image directly. Mike Dillon 02:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Ethnic labels

What is this stupid cat called "Category:English_Americans"? And putting people like James Garner, Carrie Fisher, Jane Fonda, Peter Fonda, Robert Redford, Ashlee Simpson, Jessica Simpson, Tom Cruise, Chevy Chase, Johnny Cash, David Cassidy, Tom Hanks, etc., etc., etc. This User:Vulturell putting people like this in that category is a joke. I can see people like Cary Grant, Charlie Chaplin, Alfred Hitchcock, etc., who were born in England, but then spent the major portion of their life in the U.S. in the cat, but not these other people, this is silly. WikiDon 20:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. You might drop User:Vulturell a note asking him to use more restraint. He is apparenlty in a project to assign ethnic or national labels to every celebrity. -Willmcw 20:38, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Christmas

In case you don't revisit the Political Correctness web page, here's the link to UC Berkeley, that noted Dec. 25 as "Winter Holiday". [1]

Ronnie Earle

The crooksandliars link was there because people starting to call Earle a "Democrat party agent" and they act like no jury was involved in Delays inditment.

I added it back with a description. -Willmcw 01:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Overtaken

Now SlimVirgin 16,854, Willmcw 16,941: spooky. Does this mean we're more than just a POV possé, but now actually the same person? ;-D You've done many more edits to articles than me, though. I spend too much time on talk pages, desperately trying to justify myself. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

What do you think about User Rangerdude contributions?

Hi!

I used english Wikipedia to get information about James M. McPherson to create an article in german Wikipedia. I wonder if the mentioned critic Thomas DiLorenzo is reliable. The article about him tells that he's related to the League of the South. Have you read the wikipedia information about this organisation? I don't know whether they are harmless or extremist. The relation of DiLorenzo to such an organisation does not automatically conclude not reliable statements about McPherson but the mentioned DiLorenzo predicitions I've read in the McPherson article are IMHO POV, disproportionate or absolutely not true. Especially that marxism-allegation. I've just read Battle Cry of Freedom, but this several times, and I found absolutely no appearance of Marxism. Seems more like an "MacCarthy"-style accusation.

What do you think? Should I mention this DiLorenzo guy in the german article?

I tried do mention DiLorenzo's relation to the League of the South so the reader himself can judge the reliability of this critic, but user Rangerdude is watching this article like a guard dog to defend his as I guess POV contributions, so I had no chance and didn't want to start a edit war without knowing more about DiLorenzo criticism.

E^(nix) 18:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think DiLorenzo is an especially notable critic of McPherson's, so his inclusion should depend on the length of the article. Rangerdude is zealous on issues concerning the confederacy, neo-confederate, and related issues, and his contributions should be viewed with care. -Willmcw 19:25, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Willmc!

I see you are fighting now for that member of the League of the South sentence. But sorry, I didn't read the DiLorenzo article carefully enough. It can't be assumed that he is a member. It's not his one and only job but he is also working for a institute owned or supported by the League of the south. IMHO it should be better to discuss the academic dispute about DiLorenzos thesis if there is one our remove that selective not true-wikipedia-style "fact-showing" but "fact-creating" highlighting of criticism.

It's always the same with these political articles, for one word in the article one hundred words or even more on discussion pages are spend. That's why I favour to write technical articles like I did on wikibooks.

E^(nix) 10:33, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I temporarily deleted the crosstar image

I temporarily deleted the crosstar image as a courtesy to our hosting facility, who received an apparently properly formatted DMCA complaint. I am working with our legal team to formulate a proper response, so that the colo has no legal liability, and then we'll put it back up. Please spread the word to anyone who you think would like to know about this. :-) --Jimbo Wales 21:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

And so it begins... Kaldari 22:04, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

BJU

You may want to revert even farther back (possibly to my version) as the page is still messed up. I'm out of reverts for the day. --Viriditas | Talk 05:46, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

There's probably more improvements that can be made, but there's always tomorrow. Not to worry. Encyclopedia are long term projects. -Willmcw 05:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

True. BTW, see my comment about User:24.0.91.81 above. --Viriditas | Talk 06:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

User:24.0.91.81 is most likely the same user as User:155.84.57.253, who has also used a dozen names and a few other IPs. I'll certainly admit that the editor makes many helpful contributions, but unfortunately also makes too many unhelpful ones, including edit warring. The sock puppetry has gotten to be a problem as he's been using different accounts to skew the consensus on article and deltions. Any 3RR situation or talk page consensus issue that this editor is engaged in will require additional consideration. -Willmcw 06:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Let's write this up for the Admin/incidents page so that others can be aware. -Willmcw 07:06, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

and what's the relevance of toe licking?

I couldn't possibly say, but this edit summary made me laugh at any rate. · Katefan0^(scribble) 04:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

PinkMonkey.com

G'day Willmcw

Yes according to their contributions page, 70.247.196.80 has added the PinkMonkey.com link to To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, The Poisonwood Bible, Gone with the Wind, The Giver, The Da Vinci Code, The House of the Seven Gables, The Scarlet Letter and The Secret Life of Bees.

As of this post only the link added to the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn article has been reverted.

I have never visited PinkMonkey.com before. So I had a quick flick through the site and I found that they have "over 400 Free Book Notes / Study Guides / Online Chapter Summary Notes". However they also have a significant amount of advertising as well. In my opinion these links should be reverted and / or replaced with a more appropriate study guide site.

What do you think?

Cheers -- Ianblair23 (talk) 23:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Correlating IPs

I was impressed with your work correlating other IPs and accounts to 155.84.57.253 at WP:ANI. I be interested in hearing more about your method sometime. FeloniousMonk 02:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

PS-- And excellent job on the Paul Williams article... you beat me to it. -- FeloniousMonk

will do

"Entries in List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people need to have the orientation of their subjects discussed in the biographies. Please add the info there first, then we can add them to the list. Thanks, -Willmcw 04:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)"

will do.

grazon 04:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

fair enough

"wikify date, his rant included millions of people, don't pick out Bushes or ascribe feeling to Robertson"

guess I was just to confused by the madness of this statement to not point out its conflicting with his endorsements. grazon 21:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Will,

Thanks for your note. Well, Assume good faith you know. I was aware this editor has some history as an anonymous, but the fact he isn't any more, and he's open about his previous "anonymous" identity, and he was right about Satie makes me think he would kind of fit in the LGBT noticeboard WikiProject.

Anyhow, that's not why I came here. I was thinking, without knowing that would be a good idea, so I'd like to ask you because you're quite involved in that list, wouldn't it be better to make List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people, and the comparable list of List of gay celebrities, into an annotated list, I mean in the style of List of gay, lesbian or bisexual composers. Well, that list has still fully manual footnotes, present wikipedia:footnotes guideline has other techniques making the addition of footnotes with references less cumbersome.

Further, in Talk:List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people#I'm confused Grazon somewhere has a point about the risk of being circular with references: anyway your answer to that point was not completely correct: wikipedia:categorisation of people discourages to have a category added to a page if that category is not a reflection of the content of an article.

So having "direct" (i.e. not via other wikipedia articles) external references to any gay people list seems a good thing to me. What would you think? --Francis Schonken 08:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, anyway an intresting topic. Since I've been involved in some "referencing"-related topics lately, and also in Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes, I'm considering taking this up in Village Pump/policy. If I do so, I suppose taking the LGBT-lists is a good example to start the discussions. Is that OK for you (I mean, I would also represent your point of view when starting the discussion, while I think you have a point, although I don't know how to make that harmonise with my own present views)? --Francis Schonken 09:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

There's nothing "I want you to do". I just didn't know whether you were aware of Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). The issue I want to raise there is how we should go about with citing sources regarding lists. Presently the wikipedia:verifiability guideline does not distinghuish between "lists" and other pages in the main namespace. wikipedia:Cite sources sort of has an exception for subpages, see: Wikipedia:Cite sources#References in a "See also" section - subpages, but that doesn't *exactly* define wiki-pages named in a list & surrounded by double square brackets to be subpages, so I was wondering how the wikipedia community thinks about this.

So, maybe the implied question was whether you would object using the three LGBT lists mentioned above as example when I put the question before the community at village pump, while I wouldn't do that without referring to our conversation here and on my talk page.

And of course, implied is also an invitation to take part in the conversation at village pump, when it would get started there as a new topic! What do you think?

The reference to Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes I made was about that page trying to describe when to use lists and when to use categories. While, obviously, category pages don't give references why articles are listed in the category, it might be possible to change the CL&SB guideline so that henceforth lists would require external references, which would make a choice for categorisation more obvious in certain cases. You get what I mean? I only mean Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes is somehow involved when such things are discussed. --Francis Schonken 16:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Lists and references --Francis Schonken 07:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Gee, I wish I'd spent more time going over this with you...you're posting seems to deal with issues which we didn't address. -Willmcw 08:18, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Reply

Yeah, I always did like Shakespeare's rendition of Richard best, even if it wasn't really that accurate a portrayal (or so I've been lead to believe). But geez...that LaRouche guy sure has it in for a lot of people...

Cheers,

Yossarian

PS: Humps aside, of course ; ).

wikipedians

Hello, i saw you were listed on the Wikipedia:List of drug-free Wikipedians, but as one of the funny ones, and i invite you to read this and add your name or something else if you want. You may also want to put your name here: category:wikipedians by fields of interest under drugs/drug addiction. cheers! --Ballchef 13:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration accepted

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Willmcw and SlimVirgin has been accepted. Due to the length and complexity of the original request it has been placed on the talk page. Please make brief statements regarding the issues at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Willmcw and SlimVirgin and place evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Willmcw and SlimVirgin/Evidence. Fred Bauder 14:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rangerdude has also been accepted and the cases merged into Rangerdude although the page Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Willmcw and SlimVirgin remains in use Fred Bauder 15:47, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Campo de Cahuenga

Thanks for your thanks on Campo de Cahuenga; I have a line on an old postcard with a photo of the original house; will scan and add as time permits. PKM 22:09, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Eli Siegel

Can you explain what you ment by your edit summary, "Being born in Latvia does not make one latvian"? -You deleted the "Latvian-American" category from someone (Eli Siegel) who was born in Latvia. Are there no such thing as Latvian Jews? Are Jews who live in Latvia not Latvian? Thanks, -Willmcw 22:08, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Latvian is ethnicity, like jew is ethnicity (not citizenship or smth. like that), one can not be at the same time latvian and jew. And Eli Siegel lived in Latvia only when he was an infant. AlV 22:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Latvia is also a nation, so "Latvian" is a nationality. "Latvian citizenship" must exist. Don't citizens of Latvia get Latvian passports? -Willmcw 22:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Not all poeple who does hold 'Latvian' passports are latvians. Pasport itself states clearly 'Citizen of Latvia', not 'Latvian', and on page 3 there is an specification of ethnicity, however now (starting from 1997 or so) it is possible to chose to select 'refused to specify'. There is no single word even in latvian for all people who are citizens of Latvia, regardles of ethnicity. AlV 23:04, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Maybe we should change the category "Latvian Americans" to the more general, "People from Latvia". That could include those born in Latvia regardless of ethnicity. -Willmcw 23:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

It will be better solution. In this paritcular case he shold be incloded then in two categories 'People from Latvia' and 'Jewish-Americans', and use categories 'People from Latvia' and 'Latvian-Americans' when specifying people who are ethnic latvians. Else it results to something like calling all citizens of United Kingdom 'english'.

OK, done. -Willmcw 23:33, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Article Deletion

Hellow Willmcw

In relation to the article "Day Laborers - A Law Enforcement Blog", I do have to agree with you on this one. A person who may have been, or is a law enforcement officer that I had "ran into" recommended that this article be posted as a Public Safety article. I travel all over the USA as a prospector and as a Metal Detecting Enthusiast, and as a courtesy, stop by the police precincts and offer my services as a voluntary metal detector recovery technician when such services are needed, such as when a suspect has thrown out metallic evidence, usually a weapon, to avoid prosecution for such things as illegal weapon possession by a felon, murder.

Again, I do recommend that article be terminated. I do apologise for any inconviences caused by this matter.

thanks

I'm starting to doubt that I can be meticulous enough to be a good encyclopedist.

you've been cool though about all the stuff I've done though. 8)

grazon 01:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

reason for article placement

Its just that when a possible cop/active duty cop speaks to you, you listen or get arrested. Seen that happen on a lot of crime shows, COPS, that sort of thing.The claim was that the article was to be a public service. Hope this has'nt inconvienced anyone.

Appreciate the info. on what a sock puppet is. Any other names for a sock puppet, like "User Unknown" ?

Regarding public service - that is noble, but there are many public services that Wikipedia does not provide, like yellow pages, or how-to manuals. Our particular mission is to write an encyclopedia, not to assist law enforcement matters. Don't be offended if the article is deleted, we delete a hundred articles a day which don't match our mission.

I've never heard of a sock puppet referred to a "User Unknown". I suppose in certain articles there may be a suspicion that unknown users might be sock puppets, but that's just a guess. I don't know of other names. Cheers, -Willmcw 04:22, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

One other thing

One other thing, has anyone did any work concearning the 2012 matter ? It is related to the Mayan Calandar, and there is rumors and scuttlebutt all over the place on this matter ?

I'm not familiar with that. I see on 2012 that there is some discussion already. -Willmcw 04:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

155.84.57.253

155.84.57.253 (talk · contribs) is back again, wreaking havoc. Can anything be done? --Viriditas | Talk 04:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I saw that he was back, but his edits seemed innocuous. I'd feel more comfortable with him if he'd own up to his previous sock puppeting. He still denies it, though weakly. (See recent entries at User talk:155.84.57.253). He is clearly energetic, and makes many helpful contributions. It's the other contributions that I worry about. What do you suggest? -Willmcw 05:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. At the moment, he's annoying but harmless. I guess we'll wait and see. --Viriditas | Talk 05:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

CantStandYa (talk · contribs) is back reverting for 155.84.57.253 (talk · contribs) and 195.144.130.1 (talk · contribs), all three of which appear to be the same user. --Viriditas | Talk 09:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Silly, but amusing. CantStandYa 17:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

2012

Appreciate the info. on the 2012 matter. Seen a documentary concearning some really weird things that allegedly takes place on or near 12- 20- 2012, and how do I go about 'signing" my name, and what are these "create account/log in" icons about and are these accounts free or pay accounts ?

Who or what is a "155.84.57.253" and what is this individual accused of ? I do'nt intend to be mistaken for some else.

No, I don't think that anyone would mistake you for user:155.84.57.253. However one way to make sure is to register for a username. Doing so is free and provides more privacy than allowing your IP address to be seen. Just follow the "register or log in" link somewhere on your screen. You can sign you IP address (and your name once you get one) by typing four tildes ~~~~. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

How do I go about "signing my name" and what are these icons: "Create Account/Log in", and are they a FREE account or is there a fee involved ? Others may also want to know this.

Creating an encyclopedia is a mentally demanding effort. If you cannot figure out how to register, then you probably are not "tall enough to go on this ride". Thanks anyway, -Willmcw 07:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I suppose when you ask a silly question, you get a silly answer.Its just that some are worrying about the ole pocket book, some about identity theft, etc.,etc.

--66.112.107.8 20:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)WARHAWK66.112.107.8 20:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)--

Yes, totally free. -Willmcw 20:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

To User:66.112.107.8: FYI: As long as you don't use your real name for your User name, then getting a User account is usually more anonymous than editing by IP. For example, 66.112.107.8 is 66.112.107.8.dyn.centurytel.net, which is located in Edwards, Colorado (see here for more details on the location and here for the reverse DNS). BlankVerse ∅ 03:51, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Human development

Will, please see my comments. Thanks. Uncle Ed 14:12, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane threat

Anyone out there tracking what has been designated as Hurricane Wilma ? Been through hurricane Rita. Got a "Self Powered" Radio, it got a real workout when Rita paid my area a unwelcome visit. It is a Grundig FR - 200/Recycle Power unit --66.112.107.8 20:22, 18 October 2005 (UTC)WARHAWK66.112.107.8 20:22, 18 October 2005 (UTC)--

Yes, indeed they are. You can find out more either by typing "Hurricane Wilma" into the 'find' box on your screen, or by putting brackets around the phrase to turn it into a link -> Hurricane Wilma. Glad to hear you're prepared. Hopefully this storm won't be as bad as the others. Cheers, -Willmcw 20:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Where is it now and how do I lose my "Borg"-like numerical designation, so that my signature will appear instead ?--66.112.107.8 20:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)Warhawk

There's a link at the top right of your page that says "Create account / log in". -Willmcw 20:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Find contributions in the articles "Flashlight" and "Radio reciever" in which I discussed "Self Powered" radios and flashlights, given that there is a emergency situation going on, which goes by the name "Wilma", it will be a good idea to get one or more of these "Self Powered" lights and radios. Imagine your power went out, your batteries are dead,your 'old style' flashlight is damaged, bulb blown out or broken,etc. THAT is why I had added info. about this kind of equipment in the two articles. As stated, I have one of these kinds of radios, and this model has a built-in flashlight.--66.112.107.8 20:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)Warhawk

One other thing, did anyone warn the Wikipedians in the areas to be hit by this hurricane ? --66.112.107.8 20:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)Warhawk

Registration,talk page

How do I get to my talk page? Found out someone else has the "Warhawk" designation. I do NOT fancy myself being accused of using a "Sockpuppet". Ran into problems registering. My Mozilla Firefox will NOT allow "cookies" to be used. Hope this SNAFU has'nt inconvienced anyone. Even this signature may be no good.--66.112.107.8 21:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)Warmaster

Firefox works fine, you just have to turn on the cookies. From the 'Tools' menu choose 'Options', then the 'Privacy' link, then find the 'Cookies' line and click on the little plus (+) sign. Check the box that says "Allow sites to set cookies". If you prefer not to get permanent cookies then under "Keep Cookies" choose "Until I close Firefox". That will throw out new cookies everytime you quit, meaning you'll have to sign in every time. -Willmcw 22:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Once I get a real username, will this appear on my talk page orshow up someplace else ?

and will it affect this signature"66.112.107.8" program ? How do I

"sign in" everytime" on this format and could this be moved to my talk page as well? 66.112.107.8

Appreciate the info. Can you move this to MY talk page ?- and how do I access MY talk page ? How do I :sign in everytime" ? I used to get a LOT of some really disgusting SPAM, of which I'd NOT repeat here, or get labeled as posting really obscene,offensive material. I'm referring to some really bad stuff that'll make Larry Flynt sick.

The talk page that belongs to your current IP address is at talk user:66.112.107.8.

Appreciative of info

Appreciate the info. Really, I used to get some really obscene,disgusting SPAM that if I repeat even the "clean" parts of it, it may violate Wikipedian Policies regarding obscene material. Need a article posted in this Encyclopedia regarding to these matters. One other thing, where do I access "Talk User:66.112.107.8"? The Search Icon used to locate anything in this Encyclopedia ?

=Testing Access to Talk User Page

Testing entry to MY talk page............................................. Got to my page by using the SEARCH icon used to locate anything in this format. Will try it to get to your talk page.

Accessing other personnel's Talk User pages

How is this done ? Had to go through the 'backdoor' to get to your talk page. Went into the "history" section of a article that was edited by you to get to this talk page.

Once you are at a user page, click on the "discuss this page" link on the left or bottom to get to the talk page. The same goes for any article. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:10, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Appreciate this info. Thought I was like a burglar. Down here where I'm at, they get shot, not coddled. By the way, did anyone warn the Floridian Wikipedia people to get ready for this hurricane ? Latest track of this thing that I've seen has it definately hitting Florida. This is why I had contributed to both the Radio-Reciever article,and to the Flashlight articles by reporting the existence of ";Self Powered" flashlights and radios, of which in my case, came in handy when, as I had stated,Hurricane Rita had paid my area a most unwelcome visit.

That's not my department, so I don't know if they've been informed or not. Maybe you can do it. See Category:Wikipedians in Florida for a list. Good luck with the storm. -Willmcw 08:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Obscene/Profane material: Wikipedian Policies

What are the policies for this ? Seen a possible inflamatory remark,possibly obscene in a article.Should I just remove it or report it ? The article had nothing to w/ the sick remark.

What article? -Willmcw 09:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

The article was "Flashlight". Will present the imflammatory/obscene material's location before I removed it,NOT what it said, or I might violate Wikipedian Policies, if any, concearning obscene, imflammatory material.

I found what you referred to in the article history. We usually just delete that type of stuff. If someone makes a habit of it then we might take steps. Even worse than what they added is the fact thay they removed information too. I found it (ironically, a section on self-powered flashlights) and integrated it with the material that you added. Cheers, -Willmcw 19:09, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

What are these "steps",policies ?

Don't forget to sign your talk page entries. You might start by reading over Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset. -Willmcw 19:26, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Got caught up in reporting a serious matter that I forgot this simple protocol. What steps are taken ? Can they be published to serve as a deterrent to what I've found ? How do you archive a Talk User page ?66.112.107.8

Appreciate the info.66.112.107.8

Do these "steps" incl. contacting a Administrator regarding inflammatory, obscene,profane material ?66.112.107.8

Sure. If you find obscene material, then delete it. If you find an editor who is adding obscenities, then report it to an admin. You can do so at Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. -Willmcw 23:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Should'nt I report it first ? 66.112.107.8

No, the point is to remove it from the encyclopedia. Then the next step is to prevent more vandalism. Other editors can always find the problem that you fixed by checking the edit histories (everything that anyone does here is recorded). Cheers, -Willmcw 23:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

It seems I should merge the usernames I've used

Dear Willmcw:

Unfortunately, I have been accused of having a sockpuppet, Samivel. As you may remember, I withdrew from active editing in the Aesthetic Realism article under the username Aperey. I believed it would be proper to begin using another name, Samivel. I was under the impression that this would be OK. Michael Bluejay "detected" this. I did not go to any great lengths to try to conceal it. And now someone seems to have partially blocked my IP on the grounds that Samival is a sockpuppet. Of course it was never intended to be one.

As you can imagine, having my name (Perey) dragged through Wikipedia and future Google searches with the slime that has been attached to it in Talk pages is not too pleasant. Nevertheless, changing it to Samivel doesn't seem worth it.

I believe I should merge my usernames: Arnold_Perey, Aperey, my IP, and Samivel. Can you or someone else tell me how to do this?

Can you advise? or suggest who I can go to for advice?

Sincerely,

Arnold Perey

Using another name is OK, but to make it seem as if you are a different person, and then to come back and use the old identity again, is sock puppetry. Yes, the best thing would be to have a single identity, perhaps one with a username that is not identical to your real name. There is a method for merging edits from the past, but it is inactive at present. Wikipedia:Changing username. In the meantime, the best thing might be to keep editing with Samivel, and post a notice on your other user pages to indicate that it is your new username. -Willmcw 19:39, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I can't find any block on your account. If you give me more details I'll try to get the matter resolved. -Willmcw 19:50, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you I'll proceed that way. This time logging on there was nothing like a block. It may have been a software abberation of some sort. Arnold Perey / 20 October 2005

Change IP address

My current location is in LA,USA, how do I change this current one from the one in CO. to one in LA., w/out being classed in some kind of derogatory manner, like a "sockpuppet" ? I've found that the IP in CO. is in error. Hope this has'nt inconvienced anyone. Can this info be moved to my talk page ? 66.112.107.8

You can't change your apparent IP address, except by changing your actual IP address. That's why you should get a username. -Willmcw 20:09, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Yesterday I could access my talk page, now I can't. What is going on ? I've ven seen that this Wikipedia site is having some glitches. Is that the case ? 66.112.107.8 :)

Try this User talk:66.112.107.8. No glitch, I'd just made a typo error. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

:-) 66.112.107.8

New Message

I left a message for you at Category talk:Newspapers of the United States. Va girl2468 01:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Va girl2468

Thanks for the words of welcome

Thanks for the welcome and for the very helpful links. I am curious about why my user name is in red and any time I try to go to my user page I get a message that says the page cannot be found. Did I fail to do something correctly when I set the account up? Any help you can give me in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks.Ee60640 03:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

It's not red anymore! (You can replace the greeting with the text of your own choosing). Cheers, -Willmcw 03:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, gee whiz. Are you fast as lightning or what? Thanks! Ee60640 04:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

New Designation to all

Listen up: The designation "66.112.107.8" is terminated. The New designation is Martial Law, yes Martial Law

Now,how do I elimiate this red coloring ? Question is similar to Ee60640's question. Anyone using my old designation may be considered a sockpuppet. Appreciate the help and info.Martial Law 04:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Appreciate the help Willmcw on this matter, getting rid of my Borg designation,getting registered.

As stated, I used to get some really nasty SPAM. Speaking of Spam, seen a AOL ad that stated that SPAM is known to carry viruses and even effect Identity Theft.Martial Law

Link clean up

Can you help clean up the links for UFO Casebook,Malevolent Alien Abduction Research, Earthfiles,Enterprise Mission - Richard C. Hoagland's website and How do I clean up these links if I spot a red link ? Almost made a really grievious error.Martial Law

As you may have guessed as to why I've chosen the "Martial Law" designation, the reason I chose that one is that I was raised in a military family w/ one other member who was also in the service as a MP(Military Police Officer).Corrected a error that somehow got into MY terminal.Martial Law

Rather than my cleaning them up, please learn how to clean them up yourself. For external links, see Wikipedia:External links. For internal links, please see wikipedia:How to write a great article and Wikipedia:naming conventions. The last one is important because we should not have an article titled "Enterprise Mission - Richard C. Hoagland's website". Also be aware that not all websites are notable, or worthy of inclusion in this encyclopedia. Check the Alexa.com rating - if it isn't above 50,000 then chances are that it is not notable.

Martial Law is a fine name and it's nice that you take pride in your family. Cheers, -Willmcw 07:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Terminate old talk page

Can you terminate my old talk page"66.112.107.8"? I do NOT want it floating around out there so that a Sockpuppet, especially a really bad sockpuppet cannot use it at all ?Martial Law

Normally we don't delete files like that, but the circumstances allow. In the future, it's even better if you sign using four tildes (~). That adds the date and time too. Cheers, -Willmcw 07:27, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Appreciate that. Imagine someone using YOUR old designation to, as you once put it,to vandalize the Wikipedia format. Just heard that the Prez. wants ALL Illegals out of the US, and heard this just now on FOX News, via Bill O' Rielly's show. I cannot confirm this at all.Martial Law

Administrator Requirements

My talk page says "I'm eligible to be a administrator" if I done "X". In case this happens to me, WHAT are the requirements ? Sounds like this position has a LOT of power. Is this a position, similar to when someone gets conscripted into the military ?Martial Law 09:14, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not like the military at all. Administrators have little power, just a couple of additional administrative tools. More importantly, you are eligible to be an encyclopedia editor, a role of great power and responsibility. Use that power wisely. Cheers, -Willmcw 09:16, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Like what ?Martial Law

You mean I can throw someone out ? THAT is power. I'm NOT into power abuse.Martial Law

Will use that power wisely. Just have any and all evidence ready for presentation, witnesses' testimonial evidence ready for presentation. Sounds like this position of "Administrator" is similar in function to a Judge. Any appeals' process for those affected ? Of course, in a proceeding, I'll need a IMPARTIAL "Guide/Consultant" in case I'm chosen. As stated I'm NEW to all of this. Are Administrators allowed a sort of "jury" ? Some things are really serious, like someone placing, inflammatory,sexual, obscene material all over the place,placing material that is of a criminal nature, like "how to make a bomb, find it on.....". What are the duties/qualifications of, "term"(Amount of time) that the Admin serves,etc.?

After all you said that, should I get chosen as a Administrator, to use THAT power wisely. and can all of this be moved to my talk page ? I do NOT want to prosecute a innocent party. I will present BOTH sides of the issue(s) to all concearned,so I'll need access to all user talk pages of the concearned parties, those making the charges, the defendants' as well, and as stated, all evidence. Just tell all concearned that "Martial Law" has been declared, should I get chosen. Of course, public office, such as this is not my style, I travel a lot. Martial Law

One other thing, should I be unavailable as a Administrator, is a"alternate" chosen ? As earlier stated, I travel a lot, could even be helping the police recovering metallic evidence involved in some crime,fall ill,etc..Martial Law

I'm not shirking anything, just stating what could happen that could bar me from serving as a Administrator. Martial Law

Here I go

Well here I go, maybe, among other things, as a travelling arbitrator, sort of like the Old time Circuit Judges,Circuit Preachers used to do.Martial Law

What is a "Copy edit ?

What is a copy edit ?Martial Law

"Copy" is another term for text. So "copy editing" means editing the text, usually to correct grammatical errors or to improve readability of the text. That's opposed to edits which change the meaning of the text. -Willmcw 22:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Cognition

Will, Cognition has been busy tonight, and among other things has inserted LaRouche material into Physical economics and Abba P. Lerner, in the first instance to claim that LaRouche developed it or coined the term, and in the second, to add a section about a debate LaRouche had with Lerner, though there's no indication this was a significant event for Lerner. I've removed the material, protected both pages, and requested sources. For Physical economics, Cognition has produced a source that is paid subscription only, so I asked him to upload it, which he did at File:Pu 45 977.pdf. Because I protected the page, I feel I ought not to be the one to judge whether the source is credible. Would you mind taking a look at it? You might also want to look over the latest member of our sadly fecund LaRouche family of articles, Lerner-LaRouche debate. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 04:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I notice that the Russian paper's source is Lyndon LaRouche, "The science of physical economy as the Platonic epistemological basis for all branches of human knowledge," (LOL!!), Part 1, 2, 3 Executive Intelligence Review, 21 (9-10), 1994, (my LOL). SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:09, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Got totally blocked, Wikipedia having some technical problems ?

Reason I could'nt get back online was that I got totally blocked out for a unspecified reason, and I mean TOTALLY blocked out. Could'nt even get back on to this site at all. I already went through proper channels.Martial Law 08:22, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I had just got back here via a sister site. What is going on ?Martial Law 08:24, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

The whole system was down. Not to worry. It's been more reliable recently than it had been in the past, but it's still a work in progress. -Willmcw 09:01, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Appreciate the info. Be warned that I heard about a virus that can literally terminate your system. Cannot confirm this, nor deny it either. It is reportedly a kind of virus that splits in half, so that if you kill it, you only got 1/2 of it, then it reproduces itself, and goes back to work, until your system is destroyed. Only cure is to have your terminal taken off the net, shut down,then the motherboard,other chips,etc. totally replaced. Allegedly this bug originated in the old Soviet Empire/CIS. I thought that this thing had hit this site.Personally, I hope this is all scuttlebutt, rumor,whatever Wikipedians call it.Martial Law 19:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip

Sorry about adding categories with unnecessary apostrophes. Don't you hate filthy newbies?!  :) wknight94 18:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

What up Will?

Long time no hear. I've been away from Wiki for a while. Now I'm ba-a-a-ack. :) So Willow, you gonna try to delete my entry again? I myself have doubts as to my notability. I think it should be deleted. :) Aww, just funnin' ya. HOw goes it? What's the latest? Do you like the Apprentice? Kinda cool hunh. NSKinsella (Stephan Kinsella) 21:56, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Feel free to look over the Wikipedia:deletion policy and see if Stephan Kinsella qualifies. The instructions on what to do next are included. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:24, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Willow, surely you wouldn't suggest I interfere in this manner w/ my own entry, would you? I mean really, aren't I biased? I would think you, of all people, would be a stickler for such rules! :) NSKinsella (Stephan Kinsella) 15:10, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Since you added your own entry, it'd be fitting for you to remove it as well. However, it strikes me as unbelievable that you would doubt your own notability. -Willmcw 17:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

• Willow, I didn't "add" my own entry, now, did I? Rather, I simply re-erected something similar to the one you helped to unjustifiably delete earlier, which first version I did not "add" (though the person who put it up apparently heavily borrowed from my own bio available on my website). Anyway, actually, I don't think you are justified in saying it's unbelievable that I would doubt my own notability. In fact I am quite aware of my status in this regard. (Whether I fit Wiki's own criteria for notability is another matter.) What is your name, anyway--people seem to assume your name is "Will" and just call you that, but I don't know if it's safe to assume your name is Will just b/c your handle is "willmcw". Maybe your name is Willow. Maybe it's Spanky. Who knows? NSKinsella (Stephan Kinsella) 21:10, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, my name here is "Willmcw", it is not Willow. The Stephan Kinsella article had been deleted, then you added it back again. "Re-erected" if you prefer. In any case, if you want to "un-re-erect" it then go ahead and follow the policy I've given you above. Have a nice day. -Willmcw 22:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Need help with article

Need help with a article I had just created. It is:Fictional Resistance Movement/

Fictional Resistance Groups, a article about fictional resistance fighters. Any errors

I ought to know about ?Martial Law 06:37, 24 October 2005 (UTC) :)

More cabalism

Welcome to the Islamist cabal. [2] SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:22, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of which - I just wanted to let you know that I am working on my Evidence for the RfAr. It seems it is necesary to restate evidence already included in the initial filing. Is that correct? Thanks, Johntex\^talk 18:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I believe that it is apparently necessary to restate your evidence. -Willmcw 06:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Wilma too scared to tangle with my current location( Ha! Ha!)

Wilma did NOT hit our area, just concearned for the Floridians.Martial Law 07:24, 26 October 2005 (UTC) :)

Article Deletion ?

Why is the article "Malevolent Alien Abduction Research" being deleted ?Martial Law 08:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC) :)

I'm not defending it, it is a source of info. where people can report some really nasty alien contact without the ridicule,etc., someone researching material for a horrific Sci-fi novel,movie,etc., can find material there.Martial Law 08:25, 26 October 2005 (UTC) :)

You mentioned that the article Malevolent Alien Abduction Research is,nt notable, so I had a Wikipedian who IS a UFO Abductee examine it to give his opinion to make a sick article better. Hope this has'nt offended you.Martial Law 05:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

No problem. The whole community is in the active, ongoing process of deciding which topics are of sufficient merit to include. Within different general topics rough standards have been set to help establish notability. For example, the benchmarks for writers include having been in wide-circulation preiodical, a moderately selling book, etc. In the case of website, the Alexa.com rating is the benchmark, as I mentioned before.

Alien abduction is a significant topic and I'm glad that Wikipedia can cover it properly. However in many cases it would be more useful to improve existing articles rather than create new ones. MAAR may not be notable enough for an article on its own, but it may well be notable enough for a mention in one of our other alien abduction articles. Likewise, I already went ahead and merged your "Enterprise Mission" article into that of its webmaster, Richard C. Hoagland. Much of the website article simply duplicated what was already in the biography. Say, did you see that Invasion TV show? Cheers, -Willmcw 05:48, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Can the article Malevolent Alien Abduction Research article be merged, as you had proposed ? Can it be stated upon merger that there are some really nasty UFO/Alien encounters going on, to counter reports of aliens allegedly giving people missions of spreading alien related propaganda, forming UFO cults that may self terminate, like what happened with the Heaven's Gate cult ? This may save some lives of people who has had these encounters.Martial Law 20:40, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

I see that you've essentially already done it, by adding the same info to Abduction Phenomenon#Alien Abduction Research Organizations. Why don't you focus on cleaning up and improving that material? -Willmcw 20:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I did see the TV series AND did have some CE-1 encounters, one horiffic CE-3+. What is it with all of these glitches on Wikipedia ?Martial Law 20:49, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

Wikipedia is a very popular website requiring considerable processing power which is operated on a shoe-string budget. I'm amazed we don't have more technical problems. Regarding your personal experiences, I hope you've written them down and communicated them to one of these groups that study the phenomenon. Best wishes. -Willmcw 21:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Already placed article into the Abduction Phenomena article. You can now have the seperate article terminated. Is the article UFO Casebook slated for deletion ?Martial Law 22:05, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

Re: your message to me about a talk page

Your message to me: Please do not edit or remove the talk page entries of other users. -Willmcw 00:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Samivel"

I don't know what this refers to. What is this about? If someone thinks I deleted something from their talk page, I'd like to know. If, on the other hand, I am not allowed to delete anything from my own talk page, I'd like to know that too. Do you know what I deleted?--Samivel 18:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

What fresh hell?

Thankfully reverted. [3] SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

It's whack-a-nomination. [4] SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:07, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, perhaps

"Perhaps the photo was distorted to make Berlet look obese "in good faith" but I doubt it."

LOL! SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:56, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Quasiturbine

Thanks for your comments on my talk page. Internal combustion engines of all sorts old and new have been a recent Wikipedia interest of mine, and energy development is an interest of long standing. The talk page discussion has been interesting and is not over yet IMO, and there's lots more to do on the article. Stay tuned.

One question: Have you any idea what happened to delay the closure of the deletion debate? Accidents happen, but the admin/housekeeping team (of which I am proud to be a small part) normally does better than that. Andrewa 00:57, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't know what happened. Re-reading my comment I see that I couldn't figure it out back in December, either. The original article might have been deleted, and then recreated. The current article has (some) verifiable info, though I'm not sure what our notability standard is for tehnology. Many of the assertions in the article have been claims or predictions that aren't backed up by any testing or actual data. The participation of the inventor in the article complicates editing. -Willmcw 01:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

The article was deleted last December after a strong and valid consensus had been reached to delete it, but for some reason the admin who deleted the article didn't close the debate, nor did they speedy delete the article when it was almost immediately recreated. Or that's the way it seems to me. Academic now, I'll ask the admin themselves sometime but they may well not remember.

There's a similar discussion going on in French Wikipedia, but there they seem to have some formidable expertise on team. Vive la Wikipedia! Andrewa 02:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Reverting my AfD edits

Why, exactly, did you see fit to revert my edits to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lerner-LaRouche_debate? Kurt Weber 01:37, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

My sincere apologies - I must have hit the "Rollback" button by mistake. - Willmcw 01:40, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

NP...it happens. Kurt Weber 01:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Tip on changing periods and quotes

Thanks for the tip on periods and quotes. I was aware that Wikipedia allowed for differences in usage, such as in something like "instalment" vs. "installment" but I was unaware that periods inside punctuation wasn't universal. -Volfy 06:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)