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August 2020

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Information icon Hello, I'm Canterbury Tail. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Canterbury Tail talk 12:49, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You did make a mistake those are facts Princejacorian18 (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're not quoting sources, you're messing up formating and I'm afraid your edits are not in standard English. You're adding comments that are clear conjecture, and you're not providing any references or sources for the changes. In fact in many cases your edits are contradicting the reliable sources that are already there. Canterbury Tail talk 13:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sources I come from those families and I’m making changes to what isn’t true or facts. I’m not change anything else. I’m telling the truth. But if you don’t want to know people to know then ok it ok. But let people think that they were this and that. At least I gave answers Princejacorian18 (talk) 13:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is based on WP:VERIFIABILITY, if you can't provide sources it can't go in. Canterbury Tail talk 13:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You want to know why there are no sources on those because nobody thought about it. I choose to say it so everyone knows the truth or close to understand everything about those famous families in japan history. But whatever Princejacorian18 (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, you may be blocked from editing. Canterbury Tail talk 13:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You know whatever I don’t need this. Keep adding unsourced stuff when I come from those people and have they dna in me. You say I’m adding unsourced stuff. I bet you my stuff is more sources then almost everything they were said about them. I gave more answers to who they are so when I said about sanada clan you think it all lies and did you found out the facts about them or notice something about a family history never told. Or you are think everything that is said was untrue I challenged you on this fact. Block me I don’t care. At least I told facts then know half stuff. This place should be teaching people about people like if you don’t know something or everything you can start it off and later someone add more to the talk about them. Help people to understand. If it not sources for you let me make a decision to give people a question on the history of people that I know well. If not fact show me I’m wrong not blocked me or changed it before telling me what facts to you. I say it now you say I can’t give a talking point to something that could have facts and if one day I’m right then what. You would put as facts. Princejacorian18 (talk) 13:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because you have more half truth stuff then you know I’m this site and I’m fixing stuff that I know not facts to those people. If I’m wrong then tell me not block me over nothing. But I see you let half truth on the site then let the full truth for everyone to understand and see what facts and what isn’t. Princejacorian18 (talk) 13:32, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying above. However Wikipedia is based on references and verifiability, not truth. If you cannot provide a source for your edits, then they cannot go in. And no you are not a valid source. Canterbury Tail talk 13:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow then whatever keep half truth on here. I will keep my full truths. But you know what I’m saying let me put it like this. Since your not listening to a word I say. Here what I say facts are facts where do you know those facts come from. You say a lot of my editing is wrong on your facts. Then understand what I see isn’t a fact. So I should put claimed first for you to take it as facts. On the sanada or imagawa page. I come from those people. You can’t say I’m wrong on facts. You just say that I don’t understand. You want to know why because your not thinking about stuff. You just tell me rules that don’t say anything about my facts. And I challenge you on this. Tell me what not source on my edit and show me where the sources is. Princejacorian18 (talk) 13:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not fully understanding your English, but what I think you're saying is basically that you are descended from some of these clans and as a result anything you say on the topic is the truth. Is that right? I'm going to drop a welcome template below that has links to all of Wikipedia's rules and policies, and I suggest you read them. If afterwards you're able to provide reliable sources for your edits then they can stay, but without sources it's purely your word which is not acceptable in an encyclopaedia. Canterbury Tail talk 13:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What I’m saying is this I’m adding questions to talking point that could be facts and I come from clans and I have some facts. You can’t say that you can’t understand my English. You ask me in the message to say if you made a mistake and I told you. You did made a mistake by not asking me what I know. So on the topic I could say everything that you deleted is true and what would I do with half truth stuff on those but now I see why people hate website. Because you all just say rules then give facts. But can you give facts to my edit being wrong or not fact base for you. that what I’m asking? Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That what I’m asking as a question. But you keep going for everything else but that question. Because if you don’t have facts for me and almost all of stuff have facts to it. And a lot of people never thought about tokugawa clan I changed on history and everything I said was fact and sourced that his grandfather was apart of the taira clan and that made him the first taira shogunate you have it on here. So that could stay. I changed nitta clan claimed to just being taira clan. Because his mother come from a clan offspring of them. Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I gave everything that was fact and everything on the history and you know that. But there is a little known of the history so I put what is known and add the taira clan to it. That all. Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is do you have any sources to prove what you're saying. You keep saying they're facts, but you present no evidence for it. You need to provide evidence and references or your changes will not be accepted. And you need to enter text in an encyclopaedic form, text such as "A little is known about they history in japan but here some facts." is not encyclopaedic and comes across as purely your opinion. And this "He was a poor monk. His grandkids become low rate samurai and his grandkids saw a chance to get high rate. By telling people claiming to be from the nitta clan. They went though many clans until they become under imagawa clan they become highly respected that Tokugawa Ieyasu become rich under oda clan. So it started his want to become shogun because of his first wive come from the imagawa clan. So he had many lovers and kids. Because he feared that he will loose shogunate to fast without many sons." makes little to no sense in English. In this edit you deleted a valid reference, and inserted unencyclopaedic speech and nonsense English and again had no support for your claims. Also note on Wikipedia Competence is required and I'm sorry to say it, but your English just doesn't appear to be up to the level needed to contribute to the English language Wikipedia. Don't get me wrong, it's miles better than my Japanese, but as it is your edits are being reverted by multiple people and won't be kept in the articles. Canterbury Tail talk 14:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But I’m leaving because you can’t tell me what is fact and what isn’t.but you only take what works for you. Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The onus is on you to prove what you insert is correct, if you don't do that then anyone else can remove it. As I've linked previously you need to provide sources for your claims, otherwise it's just purely your word for it. Canterbury Tail talk 14:23, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they told people of they claimed to the clan and imagawa clan they were under them which is facts and yes he married the daughter of imagawa yoshimoto. And there are sources of him saying that he fear of loosing the shogunate like the first one. And he had many wives and lovers that is true by how many kids he had. So you can’t say I’m wrong on that. And the person before say the ancestors of clan was a poor monk so I keep it. They become respected by many clans before he became shogun the monk would had grandkids that could samurai it makes sense to that because if they stay as monks then they would had been still monks and the shogunate wouldn’t happened then. He respected them that imagawa yoshimoto got mistress daughter to marry him so yes. I’m giving you facts and sources at the same time and explain why I changed it. And all you say is it makes no sense in English. But you don’t give me sources to why it not facts. Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not everything I said is words there facts to them. But ok keep it the same I’m out of this. Princejacorian18 (talk) 14:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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