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Black veil brides

Hi NawlinWiki

Could you do me a favor and let me know who was the latest editor to recreate the just-deleted version of the above-captioned article?

Thanks, ^Bongo_matic 23:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.

This may not be an appropriate answer to provide...can you expand on why you are asking?  Frank  |  talk  23:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I already replied on Bongomatic's talk page -- it looks like s/he was monitoring spam about this band on the page BVB. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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article

hi. The article you deleted is a notable company located in westchester county new york. It is the largest producer of autographed sports memorabilia and is a substantial sports marketing company as well. There is a similar company listed under the category:Companies based in Westchester County, New York, which is ANC Sports. I am going to recreate the article in the hopes that you will allow for adequate time to expand the article, make editing corrections, and the like. Thank You--MikahO'Neil (talk) 12:52, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OTS Solutions Deleted

Hi Nawlink

what things are require to create an organization profile page on Wikipedia? I can provide the sources links from new papers etc but you have already deleted that article :(. This company is one of the leading Product engineering company based in Burbank. what information do you need to approve this article?

Thank you Robobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robobs

John Patrick Acquaviva

Hi, the article you just deleted is about a notable football freestyler, one of the younguest proffessional freestylers in the world, he has worked with Red Bull and many other venezuelan and colombian brands. check his website and see for yourself, and i would appreatiate a reply on why you deleted the article.

If he is notable according to reliable sources (not merely his own website), and you can write an article (in English) about him that complies with Wikipedia policies, then go ahead and write that article. -- Hoary (talk) 15:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

what are reliable sources? there are a load of pictures of him being interviewd by many TV stations wich are very notable in colombia and south america, such as CARACOL NOTICIAS, but the newspaper links are in spanish because the newspapers are from venezuela and colombia. Can you help me make a page about him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JessicaC180 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with using sources that are in Spanish. Just make sure that they are independent and reliable sources, and that you have identified them clearly. No, I'm not going to help you write the article, because I know nothing about the boy or the subject, can't read Spanish, and am about to go to bed. But maybe somebody else will help. -- Hoary (talk) 15:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

well, you can watch this video if yuo like, and tell me that a 16 year old who can do all that dossent desserve his own wikipedia page, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOZqNQZpJI —Preceding unsigned comment added by JessicaC180 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

You wrote above that the newspaper links are in spanish because the newspapers are from venezuela and colombia. If you can write an article about him from material in Venezuelan and Colombian newspapers, I'd guess that the result would be OK. I don't know for sure as I know nothing about this subject. This article history page suggests that a good person to ask would be User:Mamaberry11; you can ask him/her here. -- Hoary (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OTS Solutions Deleted

Fine then how can you define listing of these companies in wikipedia :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_Outsource http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameTantra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nous_Infosystems

Robobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robobs

Thank you Nawlin. and yes I have seen the links provided by you now can I add the article agin with verified sources links?

Tomb Raider 9 Origins

Hi - I need some SPEEDY help with this page. This is nothing more than a fan page, and the article creator attempted to change the wording on a sentence I left on the talk page. Thanks. ArcAngel (talk) 19:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Damn you're fast

You deleted the Riverfront Church article before i could even post the db-g11 tag on it. Good job. By the way, I am looking to get rollback privelages, as I have been spending a lot of time reverting full page blankings by a series of IP adresses. When I do, half the time my internet slows to a halt as I am undoing something at the same time as the bot. With rollback, I wouldn't get stuck. Nezzadar (talk) 20:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry re: false alarm for the IP vandalism - I glanced and mistook the 2008 for an 09. I'll warn them again I suppose. THanks for the good work —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clovis Sangrail (talk • contribs) 12:39, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Steven G. Lisa

I think this one could do with a dose of salt - it's his third time in, and there were others about his firm and his "foundation", and attempts by SPA SmoothborePhlebotomus (talk · contribs) to shoehorn his name into Jerome H. Lemelson, citing a reference which didn't mention him. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

poop

I've proposed that this article and its talk page, which you semiprotected nearly a year ago, might be unprotected and watched with great vigilance to see if the problem has gone away. --TS 22:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

• • Done, let's see what happens. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

    Thanks for removing edit semiprotection from the article. Could you do the same to the talk page, please? --TS 03:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

    • Did that too. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Crosby VFD

I dont think its fair to delete an article that hasnt even been finished yet, I was in the middle of making corrections to make it more neutral. Please do not delete this article.

Like I said I was making changes and have not had time to cite sources yet.

May I recreate the article with prewriten information that is more neutral? I mean this is govenment organization. We should be allowed to have a Wikipedia article.

I have decided to make the article a section in the Crosby, Texas page. Sorry for the miscommunication. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cap9993 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Nawlin as suggested by you I have created OTS Solutions page at my user page first. Please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Robobs/OTS_Solutions and approve it.

Thanks in Advance Robobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robobs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robobs (talk • contribs) 08:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Elite Registrations

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Talk:Israpm

Sorry about recreating the talk page. Must have been a race/edit conflict. Eeekster (talk) 04:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

OTS Solutions Not Approved

fine Nawlin, Thanks for your help :( :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robobs (talk • contribs) 04:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Prokarma article deletion

Hi Nawlin,

I am new to the Wikipedia universe. I did read the guidelines on posting information of a company (staying objective and not use it as advertising or promotion vehicle). I am curious if the ProKarma page was deleted due to the tone it was written. All aspects of the article were factual (inc.500 ranking). It did have a story-telling tone and I am wondering if this caused it's deletion.

I would like at to resubmit an article about the company, and would appreciate any guidance you have. I researched other approved articles from similar companies (accenture), to pattern the article from. But I found it difficult to compare a private company with a publicly traded company.

Again any help on creating an approved article would be much appreciated. Bontrac (talk) 14:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Logafide

Technically he's beyond his final warning as he did it twice: you warned him for the second infraction as I was about to warn him for the first. HalfShadow 00:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• I'll give him/her the benefit of the doubt -- seems to have stopped. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

My entry on AMAC is not spam and not advertising

You admins are just not taking the time to figure out what the entry is about before hitting delete. You hit delete before I had a chance to even read and understand why my article was being flagged, let alone rewrite it or discuss it. You should have a way to moderate without deleting someone's work immediately after they hit save. That is just obnoxious. Nice way to make an impression on a new contributer.

Nihiltres, the original fast draw on the delete key, agreed that my article didn't meet the criteria it was flagged for, then apparently went in search of another reason instead of undeleting it or apologizing. It seems to me you can find a reason to delete just about anything in the criteria if you try. It's that ambiguous. Don't just assume I didn't read and don't understand. There is some chance it is you that did not read and does not understand.

So let me explain to you what I am trying to do.

I am trying to document that there is a group trying to compete with AARP calling itself more "conservative", because oh yeah, everyone knows AARP is a bunch of liberal commies. I want to show that it is being funded by the insurance industry, which I believe is the reason it is anti-healthcare reform, but I can't prove that without a lot of research that is not my job, I can't just come out and say it. What I CAN say that Medicare advantage is a sponsor of AMAC and Medicare advantage is the privatized part of medicare, which is significant, but I had to do it in a way that relied on facts and did not show my bias, so it is subtle. Because it is subtle, if you quickly scan it and hit delete, you will miss ALL of that. You will completely miss the point. Which is what you all did. The rest of the content is mostly just some additional information to fill out the picture of the group. I could care less who founded it or where it's headquartered, but it seemed like something that someone might want to know. It needed some WORDS. There is NOTHING in there that was promoting this organization in any way, and it did have a point. You just didn't get it.

The last thing I am trying to do is advertise for this group. I want to document it's existence and expose it for what it is - a front for the insurance industry. Since the reason it was flagged is not valid, please tell my what I should change to make it comply. Work WITH me instead of looking for a reason to delete. It would probably take less or your time AND mine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allisoj1 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I understand you.. kind of

This organization I'm writing about may not be important enough to deserve an entry. That makes some sense. It's also extremely subjective. I will see what I can find out, but it's not worth that much to me. I'm just a civilian, annoyed by the devious ways corporations push their agenda. Medicare Advantage thinks AMAC is worth sponsoring, and that is HUGE. That right there is notable. Medicare Advantage is the insurance industry and big Pharma. That's the point. The fact that this group probably IS the corporate interest group basically or a PR or lobbyist firm hired by them to create a front group is why I think it is notable. However, it also means the group is probably not a real organization exactly, so no, AMAC in and of itself, by it's achievements or the fame or reputation of it's leaders, is probably nothing. It's fake. It's just out there trying to sign people up to a mailing list and scare them into acting and voting against their own best interests. That's the point. The fact that they are not really notable, but are trying to pretend to be notable, is what makes them notable. LOL That's why I thought it should be documented, but I'm not an investigative journalist, and I will only go so far... Maybe I should just quit. Maybe I'll give it to Greg Palast to look into. Then I can cite his article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Palast

You might just try to be a little more empathetic. I never posted to wiki and all the sudden I get this warning immediately after saving and before I can even react, my entry is gone, poof. There was no way I could have had time to add the hold on tag, let alone explain why I disagreed, and you would have ignored it anyway. A normal person would have just given up. Lucky for you I'm not normal. Something is really wrong with the process IMHO. If you get a lot of PO'd people on here, this is probably why. Allisoj1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC).

Wikipedia requires reliable sources and a legitimate claim to notability in order to have an article on a subject. Wikipedia does not *create* news or buzz; it only *reports* on such. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!)} 02:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Camp Envy article stub deleted before we could update

The Camp Envy page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Envy was created as an article stub, and was deleted (repeatedly) before our writer could submit an initial version of the page. We believe that Camp Envy was a historically significant event that deserves an article on Wikipedia.

An important element of the annual Burningman culture and arts festival is theme camps. In fact, many of these are documented on Wikipedia, for example Shangri-La (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri_La_Village), Palenque Norte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palenque_Norte), and the Guns and Dope Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_and_Dope_Party). Burningman theme camps are generally complex affairs, and often include both strong communities and elaborate art projects.

Camp Envy, which occurred this year, was the first entirely online theme camp in Burningman history. Such a historically significant event is at least as deserving of its own page as Palenque Norte. Please unlock this topic for re-creation, so we can appropriately document its history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TProphet (talk • contribs) 05:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• The article cited only to Facebook pages, and essentially said "This is a Facebook group with 350 members". It wasn't actually a theme camp -- it was an online group. We routinely delete articles on web content unless they show, by reliable independent sources, that the web content meets the notability standards of WP:WEB. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Spencer Day article deleted

Spencer Day was on the Late Late Show last night (9/9/09); his third album, Vagabond, was just released. See http://spencerday.com/, http://www.amazon.com/Vagabond-Spencer-Day/dp/B002F24SEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1252557779&sr=8-1. Seems wrong that Wikipedia would not have this article. Yes, there are "millions and millions" of musicians, but far fewer that perform on network television. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adallas (talk • contribs) 04:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

• I deleted this article in July of 2008; its only content then was "Spencer Day (born June 26, 1978) is an American singer-songwriter. (His bio is being updated.)" Obviously, he had not yet appeared on network TV. Feel free to write an article on Mr. Day. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Question

You reverted all the edits of User:YellowKid64 (even proper warnings) citing he is banned. Who is he and why is he banned? Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

• It's either User:Hamish Ross or User:ByAppointmentTo. My guess is BaT because of the username attacking User:Nishkid64 and the post to Nishkid's talk page. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
  • My mistake, it's Hamish Ross, see User:Ramish Hoss. He better hope his probation officer doesn't find out. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

SoftInWay article deletion

Hi Nawlin,

The article you deleted is about a notable company, one of the largest provider of engineering software and training in Massachusetts which also contributes to the development of turbomachinery design worldwide by participating in international events for engineers and publishing its papers in the related periodicals (e.g. http://www.turbomachinerymag.com/sub/2009/March-.pdf#page=27). It also helps develop new technologies to such companies as Wood Group, MAN Turbo and Avio which have their own pages throughout Wiki. If you don't mind, I'm going to recreate this article and expand it - first in my sandbox and then move it to the public space.

Ballistic film productions

I think you were the admin who accepted the CSD. It has been recreated within minutes. Can't find the right criteria to relist it. Can you help ? Thanks. -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 14:51, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

PJPII High School football (Slidell, LA)

NawlinWiki,

Can you please further explain why the page I created that has a football schedule and statistics for a team that can be found online? I find the importance of this for people who may no longer live in the area to easily keep up with the schools athletics. I understand that wikipedia is not a newspaper but an encyclopedia, statistics and schedule do not meet guidelines of an encyclopedia?

I am not understanding what's the harm in adding a link to football statistics on the schools wikipedia page. Knoxiouscobra (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

why my article is removed?

I didn't understand.Because it has no reliable source?Or 1pondo has a copyright?I'm a beginner,maybe you should explan in a simple language.--俠刀行 (talk) 18:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

California State University, Long Beach

You recently protected the California State University, Long Beach article for excessive vandalism. Looking at the history I'm not seeing much activity at all, and the recent edits have been appropriate. Are you seeing something that does not show up in the history? Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 22:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, it's based on stuff in the edit filter logs (attempted edits by a longtime vandal who's a CSULB student). NawlinWiki (talk) 22:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I now see that in the edit filter logs. Thank you for catching that and protecting the article. ~~`~

IRPS - The Board Game

Hello,

Today, you deleted IRPS - The Board Game under A1. While I agree the article needed to go, I don't agree with your stretching the definition of "no context" to make it happen. The subject was easily identifiable so A1 didn't apply. It also didn't fit under A7 do to the nature of the subject, which is why I had tagged it for PROD deletion. I submit that there is no harm in allowing "junk" like this to stick around for 7 days, but there is harm in stretching the rules to delete things for which they don't apply.

Thank you for your consideration, ThaddeusB (talk) 23:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

• It was an awfully short article that didn't really describe the game, so maybe I should have used A3. Anyway, thanks for your comments - I will keep them in mind. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

For doing a better job of reversion than I did...

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Claire Robinson

Hi, I saw that a little over a year ago, an article for Claire Robinson was deleted. Presumably, this was before she had her own TV show on the food network, and was wondering if it'd be appropriate to recreate the article. Her show is "5 Ingredient Fix." Thanks <tommy> (talk) 17:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

• The deleted article was not about this Claire Robinson, but about a high school student with the same name. Go for it. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

YAY I got approval to make my OWN article!! K, gimme a 2 hours to get a template etc. Thanks! <tommy> (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE: Article created, but it needs work. I'm new to wikipedia so any improvements you could add would help the page. I'd like a picture but I know we can't just have any old pic on here. Claire Robinson <tommy> (talk) 18:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from The Kevin Trudeau Show

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Guidance Requested

Last week, I suggested a small addition to the Hurricane Katrina page and posted it on the talk page of the article asking for feedback.

If I am reading the history background correctly, I noticed today that someone had changed the article to include my suggestions on the 11th but that you removed them immediately.

I believe that they were good additions and sources were fully cited.

I want to follow proper protocols and would appreciate your feedback and assistance.

Thank you,

SCPS70458 (talk) 20:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• No, all I did on the 11th was revert a partial blanking of the talk page. I haven't done anything lately to the article, which itself has not been edited since Sept. 8th. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. How shall I proceed with the suggestion? Will one of the editors who controls this page respond? I know this must be a simple question but I have not been able to find answers on the help pages.

SCPS70458 (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

InsertFunnyUserName

May I ask, who is this user a sock of? Triplestop x3 23:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Seems like User:Pickbothmanlol to me. 23:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

RoomSaver Removal: Why? Can it be undeleted?

I apologize for this page appearing like an advertisement. I assume that is because I was creating redirecting links to searchable keywords like the companies website and it's previous trademarked name. I don't think that I was redirecting correctly and that is why it appeared to be spam. Can you please explain to me how to add keyword names to the wiki page so that when searched, the RoomSaver will be found? I didn't want people to be confused when searching for the page, so I was trying to make it simpler. The content on the page was not advertising and if you read the page, you would see that. It is a significant company for many reasons listed within the page. Is it possible to be undeleted? I have been researching online to find significant articles to avoid the speedy deletion as suggested by another administrator. If I did it wrong, please let me know prior to a speedy deletion. There is a lot of information that I may have just lost that I was proud of writing. It is only my first wikipage and I wanted to make it perfect. I am learning here.

Thank you for the speedy response. I did not mean to make it seem like advertising. I added the page to "road trip" because I have used the coupon guide for road trips and am a big fan. I was shocked when I saw that it was not on wikipedia so I made a page. I thought it would be useful for people who go on road trips. Like I said, this is only my first page. Can you at least allow me to edit the page privately to eliminate everything that appears as advertising until it is ready to be published? I am just trying to find information and as I do, I add to the page. Some of it is direct quotes, in quotations, and I guess that is what appears as promotion. The section where I said it had helped millions, is because it has, and because it was one of the sentences I initially added in order to make it a significant company in order to avoid speedy deletion as suggested by the other admin. I am not trying to advertise, just inform.

Thank you for allowing me to edit the page. Can you please inform me how to make search words redirect to the page so that I do not make the same ("spamming") mistake again? Also, how do I publish this page when it is ready or is it the same as I did before? Sorry for the inconvenience.

I have just edited out any advertising sounding statements and added many independent sources and additional information to the page. I would like to make it public now if it is possible. Please let me know if there are any issues. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BDHuneycutt (talk • contribs) 13:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Recent Deletion ON A christopher l

The author has now authored 4 or 5 nonsense articles. I reported him to AIV but if a lighter touch is nec. you might be able to help out. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 14:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

NM someone beat you. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 14:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Bollywood Box Office Dashboard Deleted

Hi,

You have deleted my Bollywood Box Office Dashboard article. The work on this article would be complete soon. It will provide latest updates on Bollywood Box Office Collections and even would track the progress of Bollywood. Please allow the article to finish. Believe me, It has something pretty new information to share. - Sandeep Gupta —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandeepguptawiki (talk • contribs) 05:39, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Move-protected article

Hi, I see you page-protected Big Star (band) in July 2008 with this edit, with the comment "Protected Big Star (band): no reason to move this page w/o discussion [move=sysop])". It was recently suggested on the talk page that the article should now be moved to Big Star. I can't say I disagree. Please could you comment in that discussion or perhaps unprotect and/or carry out the move if you're in agreement. Thanks. PL290 (talk) 12:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• Unprotected, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for ConceptDraw PROJECT

An editor has asked for a deletion review of ConceptDraw PROJECT. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Mary Travers

The protection log says you protected Mary Travers (singer) but it its logs don't show it protected and it doesn't have the protection template icon. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Requesting Deletion review for Hosted_Solutions

I would like to know why this page has been deleted when it is almost identical to many other business pages such as Savvis and Radware which I used to base the start of this page off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savvis

AfD for Murder of Annie Le

Why didn't you post the result of the AfD on the talk page? Dabomb87 (talk) 21:24, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, forgot, done now, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

FTS Infotech

Hi there. I'm trying to figure out why the recent page for FTS Infotech was deleted and what we can do in order to improve it or modify it so it's not as "PR" as was noted. This is our first time submitting something and any suggestions would be very much appreciated as we think this would be a great stepping stone for our company. Thank you.

Wisapps (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The article was deleted per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FTS Infotech for not meeting Wikipedia's standard of notability. Wikipedia is not a "stepping stone" for "up and coming" organizations. Evil saltine (talk) 18:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Dune Allen Realty

I still do not understand why Dune Allen realty has been deleted when Resort Quest remains. My article stated the exact type of information as Resort Quest whose heading states, "ResortQuest International, Inc. is a vacation rental property management company headquartered in Fort Walton Beach, FL." Mine stated, "Dune Allen Realty is a vacation rental property management company since 1958 located on the gulf coast of Northwest Florida in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida." What is the difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Number1beach (talk • contribs)

• No difference, other than that ResortQuest is owned by the notable company Leucadia National. I've redirected the ResortQuest page to the Leucadia page. In general, please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.Number1beach (talk) 19:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Abdominal obesity

Your edit says: "Protected Abdominal obesity: Excessive vandalism: target per abuse filter log ([move=sysop] (indefinite))" but an IP editor has vandalised it without impediment. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 07:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

• Right - as the log indicates, I only protected it against page moves, not editing. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Article deletion

wow, you really managed to delete my article fast... Could you please allow us some time to let us take this thing off the ground?

Arcadia666 (talk) 01:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Arcadia666

• In none of your postings have you asserted that this 3-month-old band -- whose only song is apparently only available on Facebook -- meets the notability standards of WP:BAND. If you can't do that, please don't repost the article. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• I havent been able to assert anything, thanks to the fact that the article keeps on getting deleted

Arcadia666 (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Arcadia666

• • The idea is that you don't post until you *can* assert that the band meets WP:BAND. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• • • But how can I assert ANYTHING unless the article itself is up there? for all you know, i was going to do so, before you deleted the article. Arcadia666 (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Arcadia666

• • • • But you didn't. See speedy delete category a7 -- articles about bands which do not assert their subject's notability may be deleted at any time. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• • • • • Yeah, because the article was deleted before I had the chance to. You know, no offense, I saw this while looking at your user page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick Arcadia666 (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Arcadia666

• Sorry, but Wikipedia does not document "rising" bands. Even one cited assertion of notability as specified on WP:BAND is enough to keep the article from being speedy deleted. Evil saltine (talk) 02:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

A troll returns

You blocked User:79.75.24.41. It is back as User:Bevel. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

starfall

hey Nawlin... I'm out of fish to bop you with mate... but how many kids you got? Erich (talk) 11:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

ps can you please put that page back? I'd stuck a hangon tag on it but you must have missed it... please? see talk:starfall.com. I am contesting the notability issue, although I accept that I didn't spell out the notability grounds in the stub

Solver (band) deletion

What appliable parts of WP:BAND do you think are not adressed in the references added to the article? Diego (talk) 13:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

• My prod notice was before you added the additional references, most notably the Sydney Morning Herald article. That satisfies my concerns for now. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Nukeateen (band) deletion

What appliable parts of A7 do you think are relevent to the deletion, there are relative references? Considering I'd added a hangon and disputed I think this was deleted a little too rapidly, surely the significance is a historical significance, as Nukeateen are a significant band to wellingborough. Could you please clarify?

• None of the references are independent sources -- they are merely music aggregator sites that anyone can add themselves to. I saw no assertion that the band met any of the criteria of WP:MUSIC. It's not enough that you say they're significant. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:48, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Modjo (Energy)

Hi Nawlin, I am familiar with the Wiki guidlines and my article got deleted immediately. I also researched many articles on Wikipedia with similar products that haven't been deleted. Could you please give me some more detailed info which parts of the article are promotional? I spend a lot of time writing this article and would like to repost it, and I am not sure which part is not according to the guidlines. Thanks

Speedy deletion of Care Pest & Wildlife Control

Please allow me a chance to finish the article. Care Pest is gaining widespread media attention in our province (B.C.) as the first extermination company to use bed bug sniffing dogs. People are asking who we are and our brand has now become a franchise available in North America. We are also the first pest control company in our province to be certified in humane pest control by the S.P.C.A.Carepest (talk) 18:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Joshua Gracia (speedy delete)

Hey there, just letting you know that User:The.iceman7 (talk) just recently created the new article Joshua Gracia (you deleted Joshua gracia yesterday). I tagged it with speedy delete (a7). -M.Nelson (talk) 18:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Nukeateen (band) deletion

I've restored the original post before I'd altered it, this had been on wiki for a year and had been previously approved so should be okay, but just in case I've added a cite to BBC/NME which should be okay, if not then I can't do much more as all other references are in print only (this band was around in 1995 and just reformed). Can I just check, is the bands official website not considered a reliable resource for reference? Thanks for you response, Jon.

• The band's own site is not independent, and therefore doesn't meet WP:V. As for the other sources, the BBC site basically says they had one song played on BBC once. That may avoid *speedy* deletion, but I still don't think it meets WP:MUSIC. For NME, is that a site where the bands add their own videos, or does NME select them? NawlinWiki (talk) 11:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I think they select them, as there are only some videos on there and I can't see a way to add them. These are the only references I could find online, appreciate the rules and why they are there so if the decision is made to remove thats fine. Although strange it was online for so long before it was flagged for removal when I updated yesterday. Or is this part of a general clean up and that it can take more than a year sometimes? Jonnyroyster (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC) Jon

Modjo (energy) deletion

Nawlin, my article got deleted 3 times now. I made the changes you told me and it got deleted by another administrator. He told me to not include the ingredietns. I added all statements with references from outside sources, some articles about products on Wikipedia do not have any source and are not deleted. I would really appreciate if you could tell me know what I should do... Thanks

• It's just a product. There's no indication that it's notable, see WP:N. The sources merely confirm the ingredients in the product. There are no sources that would show why this product is well-known enough to be in an encyclopedia. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Nawlin, the source of CVS has all the ingredients inside:[http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?filterBy=&skuId=472060&productId=472060&navAction=jump&navCount=3. I think CVS is a very trustworthy source. The product is advertised in Maxim, ESPN and many other important magazines, there were more than a million products sold in 2008. I think this shows that it's well known. Please let me know what I can do to repost this article without getting deleted. Thanks

Removal of PROD from IChill Relaxation Shot

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Vandalism

Is there anything that can be done about the two users: Fluffy Bunny loves NLR and PODS Watch, who continue to vandalize my talk page and the pages that I edit?

Keep an eye on this guy, please

User:DarkSummoner made some decidedly blatant POV edits on Glenn Beck (TV program), then left some not-so-nice comments on my talk page afterward. I hit him with an immediate only warning, as he looks like he may be a troublemaker. My time on WP will be hit-or-miss over the next three days, so keep an eye on this guy, please. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 08:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk Page Deletion

Hello,
We have shared a couple of messages in the past week but I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe that you are a human being with whom it is able to carry out any form of effective communication. You have deleted my page about C-Tech Innovation and though I have tried to explain the importance of my article to the whole Wikipedia Community through my talk page [1], you have remained steadfast in acting in the most bolshy manner. Many of my colleagues would describe you as 'a sad person who obtains a power trip from deleting articles off the wikisphere'. I am determined to prove them wrong and that is why I believe you will reply this comment with some form of human justification for your recent actions.
Admo88

Follow up

Here's a news site[2].
I hope we can finally put this matter to rest...
Admo88

• Looks like a PR release to me. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Request

An author of a deleted page has requested a copy if it. [3]. Cheers! <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 04:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleted EphBlog page

You deleted the EphBlog page that I had created without first discussing the issue, even after I provided three separate reliable sources that reported on EphBlog. If the reason for the deletion was that I had not demonstrated the importance of the site, could you please undelete (?) the page so that I might add that information. Given that I provided three different references, I thought that I might have at least 48 hours before the page was deleted. David.Kane (talk) 01:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

AN/I discussion

Hello. User:129.240.250.124 has begun a discussion about the edit filter for your talk page on WP:AN/I. He/she requested that someone else notify you due to apparently being blocked by the filter. Thanks. Evil saltine (talk) 08:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI notice

Hi NawlinWiki, a post concerning the abuse filter on your talkpage has been placed on admin's noticeboard. Could you take a look at it? Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Schoolblock

Hello. User:142.227.221.65, whom you blocked in December, seems to be back and vandalising articles again. What should be done? Shreevatsa (talk) 13:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

• Hadn't been warned recently, so I've given a level 4 warning. Any further vandalism will get them blocked. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 14:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

IP Vandalism

This is getting ridiculous...thoughts? Maybe a short semiprotection of some userpages will make him bored? --kelapstick (talk) 17:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

• That's what this user wants. Using the edit filter instead. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:57, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Clearly, this is the same person constantly changing his IP, a 190.25.96/ and 190.25.99/ range block might make sense.--Giants27(c|s) 17:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Looking into that, although he used a 190.27 as well. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
      • I think we've got it stopped with the edit filter. A rangeblock of 190.25 through 190.27 would be too broad. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
        • Excellent, nice work. Thanks! --kelapstick (talk) 18:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
          • I just had 4 hits on my userpage, so it's still occuring.--Giants27(c|s) 18:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
            • The catch is, every time someone reverts, he adds them to the list such as... --kelapstick (talk) 18:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
• Got the latest. Keep me advised. Too big a range to rangeblock. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Quick question about G12

If content on a new article is copied straight out of a social networking site like Myspace or Facebook, would it apply under this criteria? I see you were the one who deleted the last article I tagged for WP:CSD, so I thought you might be a good person to ask. Xenocide^{Talk|Contributions} 19:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you delete my article Tomato Turtle: A Trip to the Park...please dont just say it was against the rules please personally tell me why on my page.

~~jedimaster3410

reliable independent sources

can u give me an example of a "reliable independent source?"

-jedimaster3410

The New York Times. Evil saltine (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

any?

So any newspaper or Tv station? If not what are the requirements?

-jedimaster3410

Opinion please

I originally tried to contact GTBacchus's with this, but he has not responded and seems to be fairly inactive right now. I left him this (with a couple of clarifications here):

I just wanted to get your opinion on an editor's behavior at Talk:Kitchen Nightmares (here and here). I, and several others, feel that User:Roman888 is being tendentious, disruptive, and purposely obtuse. At the beginning, he canvassed for votes (and still complains about not using votes to decide and feels that one person disagreeing voids consensus). For weeks, he's been complaining that there was no consensus made about the issue, made a bunch of baseless accusations about the editors there, refused to move into dispute resolution unless it was on his terms (we moved forward anyway with an RFC), and continually twists and distorts policies/guidelines around to suit his argument.

After I left the original message to GTB, Roman seemed to back down and hadn't left a message in over a week. However, he has left another today and he's escalated to outright hounding another user. I just wanted to get an admin's opinion on where to go from here. Please also let me know if our perceptions are wrong here. Thanks. --13² 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I should have included a bit more here. Roman is, by no means, a bad editor. You can see his contributions elsewhere and they are good. He seems to be focusing this disruptive behavior purely on this article, no others. I think this just furthers the frustration for us though because we know he's not like this elsewhere. Thanks again for any opinion you can provide. --13² 17:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Once Is Not Enough

You were involved with this page at one point, concerning the movie of the same title. In reading the page for the first time, it seems to me that it is little more than an amateur movie review, and very much point of view at that, and hence really is inappropriate as a Wikipedia page. Who would ultimately act on or arbitrate such a sentiment?

Many thanks in advance for any help, advice or forwarding here.

Dreadarthur (talk) 18:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I ended up deleting most of the page. From what I could read, this was little other than someone's little parody of Jacqueline Susann's writing style, as opposed to an appropriate Wikipedia page in tone or referencing. I hope this isn't considered too presumptuous on my part, since I have no oversight role.

Dreadarthur (talk) 02:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

tomato turtle page

First of all Its not a self published book, and second im not related to the author. Also its not about the author its about the book (otherwise i would have titled the page "Thomas Strock" do those answers make a difference in the deletion of the page? Thanks and please respond on my talk page

-jedimaster3410 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedimaster3410 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

definitinon

technically according to wikipedia "Self-publishing is the publishing of books and other media by the authors of those works, rather than by established, third-party publishers" there is a third party publisher...Tate Publishing...please post on my talk page and thanks for continually helping me through this

-jedimaster3410 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedimaster3410 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Alloys

Hi NawlinWiki

Can you please explain to me how Axis communications can have a page in that format but you deleted the Alloys page? You didn't provide a chance to complete and flesh out the history. See talk page for details. reagrds

Winesy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winesy (talk • contribs) 02:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Boticca

Thanks for catching that (twice!). I was nominating for AfD during your first deletion. Thanks for catching the 2nd instance as well. ;o) --OliverTwisted ^(Talk) (Stuff) 02:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Oops!

My bad -- I reverted your reversion over at Stock market index. I have to watch those stale Huggle diffs more closely! SMC (talk) 14:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Ljackson california2008

Hi. You just userfied this but (hidden because it overflows to the right) it contains a nasty personal attack on his step-mother; I was just tagging it db-atk. REgards, JohnCD (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)