User talk:Jimbo Wales

Welcome to my talk page. Please sign and date your entries by inserting ~~~~ at the end.
Start a new talk topic.

This is Jimbo Wales's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Archives: Index, Index, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251: 10 days

This user talk page might be watched by friendly talk page stalkers, which means that someone other than me might reply to your query. Their input is welcome and their help with messages that I cannot reply to quickly is appreciated.

Daily pageviews of User:Jimbo Wales

A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org

This talkpage has been mentioned by a media organization:

Matthew Gault (8 December 2021). "Wikipedia Editors Very Mad About Jimmy Wales' NFT of a Wikipedia Edit". Vice Media. The trouble began when Wales posted an announcement about the auction on his user talk page—a kind of message board where users communicate directly with each other.

The POTY contest is dissolving before our eyes

I'm begging for your attention and help! ArionStar (talk) 00:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if we could put it on that Community Wishlist thing. The WMF will probably want to rename it first though... ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the issue with picture of the year? Feel like I've missed a news item... CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legoktm has stepped back, and nobody else seems to really understand the backend. CMD (talk) 07:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the backend in case anyone technical wants to poke around: https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/toolforge-repos/poty-stuff –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any admin to help us? ArionStar (talk) 14:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the technical background to help with this, but it would be reasonable to post this request to AN and/or the VP to draw some more eyes to it. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was a post in July here, although as xaosflux notes the main discussion is on Commons. CMD (talk) 14:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a need for an En-WP admin to get involved, or a Commons admin, or someone who is both? Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The primary discussion for this topic is at: commons:Commons talk:Picture of the Year. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lack of response there is worse than here. ArionStar (talk) 15:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This shouldn't just fade away, it's a regular yearly competition and has a valued history. Maybe Another Believer might have an idea or two, or the visual arts Wikiproject or photography Wikiproject? Randy Kryn (talk) 15:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An admin who knows about wiki scripts? ArionStar (talk) 02:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a message to that page, which I would appreciate any comments on. —Ingenuity (t • c) 13:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have also added comments to the page, including asking WMF to put some of their paid tech personnel in place to handle or fix the tech aspects of running this longtime and important contest. Too much talk about the contest being extinct, please lower that aspect and handwringing and concentrate on getting the "scripts" (whatever those are) running again and the 2024 rendition of the contest underway. As mentioned, if nobody can handle the tech aspects on Commons then WMF should take over that responsibility, at least until others pick up the baton. Things like this are what donors expect when donating to WMF, that their funding assures the maintenance of the major projects and essential moving parts such as POTY. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday, Jimbo!

The Signpost: 14 August 2024

In the media: Portland pol profile paid for from public purse

Recent research: STORM: AI agents role-play as "Wikipedia editors" and "experts" to create Wikipedia-like articles, a more sophisticated effort than previous auto-generation systems

In focus: Twitter marks the spot

News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded

Special report: Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?

Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing

Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird

Humour: I'm proud to be a template

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The encyclopedia that anyone can edit….

regardless whether they support all of the five pillars all of the time? Why not ask them to promise they’ll do that? If not, then bye. Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a religion. It has no creed. It has no articles of faith. Asking people to make 'promises' unverifiable through any Earthly powers would achieve nothing, beyond quite possibly putting a great number of people off through being so utterly patronising. Judge people by what they do, not what they promise to believe in. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Making a promise has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with honesty. Honest people who promise to support the five pillars will make an effort to abide by them, and will leave Wikipedia if they feel unable to abide by them. I think there’s a non-negligible number of Wikipedians who are honest, don’t you think? As for the dishonest ones, sure, a promise would be worthless, and Wikipedia’s flawed and feeble mechanisms for stopping concerted gangs of propagandists will continue to fail no more than they already fail. Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have a somewhat naïve understanding of the human psyche in regard to such things as self-assessment of personal 'honesty'. If we were really like that, the world would be a much simpler place. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:08, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promises can sometimes be worthwhile even when there’s no promise-enforcing mechanism. You vaguely suggest I’m naïve, so I’ll return the favor by suggesting you’re cynical. I think there are quite a few honest Wikipedians who don’t give a hoot about one pillar or another, and feel free to violate those pillars because (1) they never promised otherwise, and (2) they are able to get away with it. Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there is credible evidence that cynicism is less efficacious than naivete in predicting human behaviour, I'd like to see it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok, who or what is this about? ltbdl☃ (talk) 01:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cynic in me (i.e. most of me, sadly) thinks it is mostly about wishful thinking. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Honesty Can Be Cultivated, Despite Cynicism. In any event, honesty does exist among both cynics and non-cynics; Wikipedia could do a much better job of harnessing it. To the extent it exists, asking people to make and keep a promise is far from futile. Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:39, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]