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deOrphaning script
[edit]Hello everyone! I was just working on responding to a couple bug reports for a script that I worked up as part of a request from this project, and I noticed that only a couple people (who weren't even on this mailing list) are actually using the script. A little history on the script: In March of 2014, Jim Cartar came to my user talk page and said he needed some help in acquiring a script for a backlog drive that he was working on that could keep track of and score deOrphanings for a scored backlog drive. I took that request to the project's talk page (BackLog Drive "DO" (De-Orphaning) script proposal) and there was near unanimous support for this. I thought about the proposal and decided the best way to do it was to build a new script (which is still no where near as comprehensive as Manishearth's OrphanTabs) and build into it a mechanism that will make BLD scoring easy.
What I'm wondering at this point is, since there appears to be only two people using the script, should I continue to develop this script with a goal of using it for scoring BLDs or just debug the existing script and leave it at that. Thanks for any replies or comments.
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- I can see your concern. However, it looks like "http://broom02.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Computer%20Science%20Teachers%20Association" is actually an exact copy of the current Wikipedia article. They took the content as noted at the bottom of their article "Content from Wikipedia". What do we do in this case? Cypherquest (talk) 07:59, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
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- Hi Diannaa - I've reviewed the page and don't see the tag. The article is primarily three sentences plus reference information. None of the three sentences are copied directly from the site and are used to create a concise summary of the overall purpose and scope of the organization. Rather than recommending deletion, would you be willing to work together to improve the article? Cypherquest (talk) 19:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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Ways to improve ISCA Influential Paper Award
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- Hi Kudpung - I'm continuing to add internal and external links. These are notable authors and notable, influential papers in this field. I likely should have had more references when I made the first version. These papers are by some of the most influential people in this area. They definitely meet the guidelines for notability (in our field and beyond). Cypherquest (talk) 02:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of SIGARCH
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Nomination of ISCA Influential Paper Award for deletion
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The article Journal of Computing Sciences in Colleges has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG.
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- Thank you, Randykitty - I've improved the article to list some of the services that index this journal. This journal is a long-standing journal in the relatively new field of computer science education. The Journal is indexed by several highly recognized services in computer science. The journal has significant coverage in Google Scholar, including journal articles with hundreds of citations. In this new and important area, the journal is second in importance only to the top journal in the field, the ACM Technical Symposium on Computer Science Education. This information was not available in the original version of the article, and has been added to address the concerns raised. I believe these improvements address both WP:GNG demonstrating coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject and WP:NJournals in that coverage by various Association for Computing Machinery services (ACM is among the most prestigious professional organizations in the field of computer science), demonstrate that it is significant, interesting, or unusual enough to be worthy of notice, as established by reliable sources. Please let me know if you have other concerns.
Cypherquest (talk) 15:31, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your edits. Unfortunately, this is most certainly not enough to satisfy GNG (which demands independent sources that discuss a subject in-depth). And none of those databases that you added are selective in the sense of NJournals either. (The ACM Digital Library is actually not even an indexing database but an access platform). So I'm afraid that this is not enough yet. Please note that "important" is not necessarily synonymous with "notable" (in the WP sense). --Randykitty (talk) 16:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of Journal of Computing Sciences in Colleges for deletion
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- Academic journals are pretty specific to their intended audience. The afd notice lists Google Scholar is a recommended way to search for notability - it provides over 10,000 hits. It's pretty notable. On the upside, I cast my first vote in a Wikipedia discussion. Woo woo! :) Cypherquest (talk) 17:22, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
About Underrepresented minority (URM) groups...
[edit]Hello,
this paper could interest you I think : http://science.sciencemag.org/content/357/6356/1101
I am French (and I do not write very well in English), so I prefer to let you introduce these elements in the article Underrepresented group if you consider it useful.
Thanks for your work in wikipedia.
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Thank you for your interest in reviewing. The pages provide clarification of the common term 'symbolic logic' as it has different meanings depending on context. Which references did you think might be original research? Please help by cleaning up any offending references. I'll provide additional support for 'symbolic logic' as a specific subject in art by enhancing the description and providing additional independent links.Cypherquest (talk) 18:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Symbolic language in music is important as well. It's different from symbolic language in literature (although lyrics is a bit of a cross-over), but symbolic language in music is important even without words, maybe a subset of art?Cypherquest (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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- @Rosguill: I've added additional references referring to 'symbolic language' in an engineering context. Please review to see if your suggestions have been addressed. Thank you for reviewing the article and offering constructive comments! Cypherquest (talk) 23:40, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- It looks a lot better now, good work. signed, Rosguill talk 05:48, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Symbolic language (art), it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Hzh (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Symbolic language (engineering). Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Hzh (talk) 23:50, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- It's a novel synthesis every time a person writes a new Wikipedia article. If I turn to Wikipedia for information and it's not available, I want to fix that, and I'll write an article. In addition, the guideline doesn't say you can't write a "novel synthesis" - we do that all the time. It says we can't write a "novel synthesis that advances a position". There is no position to be gained and as you can see from the earlier reviewer, symbolic language is just a known thing in engineering.Cypherquest (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think you may have misread the relevant policy, or at least focused on the wrong part. Concerns about original research are not contingent on the presence of neutrality issues. signed, Rosguill talk 05:53, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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Again, the response from the earlier discussion on Symbolic language (art) -
- Symbolic language is an important thing in engineering. It's critical to be able to communicate a great deal of information concisely. That's a fundamental truth that doesn't require footnotes (like the Wikipedia example that Paris is the capital of France). The articles began when I turned to Wikipedia for something related to computing or engineering and I found many, many articles that discuss 'symbolic language' that had nothing to do with what I needed. We use disambiguation articles to assist with this, but in this case, the disambiguation alone is a jumping off spot into large independent scholarly areas. Take a look at the Wikidictionary definition of symbolic logic linked in the article - it doesn't address symbolic language in art or in music. The categories and "See also" links (which are extensive for each article) are completely different depending on the context. Each context article is complex - it links to many other Wikipedia articles to help readers understand the topic in the context in which they are interested. In turn, it provides an internal and appropriate link when this common term in used throughout Wikipedia. There are many JSTOR and other references as well as extensive, art-specific, links to related internal and external useful, notable, scholarly works are provided. I believe in good faith that all issues have been addressed, that it warrants an article, and that combining all these areas into one would be more likely to confuse than support readers (as evidenced by the very different categories selected for each different article). "Symbolic language" just means very different things depending on the discipline. Thus, I have removed the original research question and replaced it with a more formal definition. I have removed the notability as this topic is covered in notable sources specific to the field of art and visual imagery. Again, the articles are in response to my own attempt to use Wikipedia to find information that was not yet provided. There is no original research in any of these, except that the article itself didn't exist yet (which is why it was written). Writing a useful, well-connected Wikipedia article is not original research. I'm quite sure any active editor can be blocked. I believe Wikipedia is one of the greatest resources available and one of the most important, collaborative undertakings ever done by humanity. We don't all agree, but I'm grateful for every person who takes time to participate. The article is better for your suggestions.Cypherquest (talk) 14:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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[edit] Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Symbolic language (art), without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please give a reference on the definition as used in art. Hzh (talk) 15:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- Your notice says to remove it after they have been addressed, and they have been addressed. The term is used all over but a definition is hard to find - that's what we use Wikipedia for - is to find out what things are. It's only when I turn to Wikipedia and the answer is not there (or in some other reasonably accessible source), that an article is warranted. Wikipedia provides the novel synthesis of all that information. We know it means something very different in engineering that in art. Writing the article addresses this gap - the use of a common term without a clear definition. Readers now at least are closer - when you say 'symbolic language' in what context are you using it? We know it means very different things. So the pages are useful in that they attempt to codify what that 'thing' is - and provide a variety of links to Wikipedia articles to help the reader learn more about the topic in the requested context. Wikipedia is the synthesis of all those uses and a way for readers to get the information needed. The disambiguation is necessary because this term/topic is important and distinct in each field. It is used widely in music as well with yet a different meaning outside the definition linked. As the primary encyclopedia - a place to collect knowledge from around the globe and transmit it - where is the best place to capture symbolic logic in music? It will have its own definition, its own internal and external links, its own history and development. Symbolic language is used hundreds of times in Wikipedia - internal links are a key aspect and benefit of a web-based encyclopedia. Parallelism and category theory is part of the reasoning. The term has a meaning in engineering - just as it does in literature, art, and music. Why would/should the article be removed to substitute with a non-parallel one? General is not specific, an approach is not an example, it's there because it is logically correct and useful. Conversely, what would be the single biggest advantage of deleting one or more of these?
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"An encyclopedia or encyclopædia is a reference work or compendium providing summaries of knowledge from either all branches or from a particular field or discipline.[1] Encyclopedias are divided into articles or entries that are often arranged alphabetically by article name[2] and sometimes by thematic categories. Encyclopedia entries are longer and more detailed than those in most dictionaries.[2] Generally speaking, unlike dictionary entries—which focus on linguistic information about words, such as their etymology, meaning, pronunciation, use, and grammatical forms—encyclopedia articles focus on factual information concerning the subject named in the article's title.[3][4][5][6]
Disambiguation and definition is not enough. We strive to explain not only the words, but also the things and concepts referred to by the words. If a term is common, widely used to mean many different things, and no clear definition captures it, that is when a new Wikipedia article - a summary of the topic is warranted.Cypherquest (talk) 16:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- If something is commonly-used for a topic, then there should be plenty of sources, and we would not be discussing this. Just add the sources that define and discuss symbolic language as applied in engineering, literature, art, etc. then no further discussion is necessary. Verifiability per WP:V is a central policy of Wikipedia, and new articles need to demonstrate that they have valid sources as well as being notable enough for them to exist as separate articles, which so far you haven't demonstrated for some of these articles. You should also not use a definition used in another context as the definition, which is what you have been doing, for example using a definition for computing in the article on mathematics, a random description about a book for a definition in art (the part you quoted is about imaginations created and not about art), and a general definition of a single word "symbol" as the definition for "symbolic language" to apply to a specific field. This is original research. Hzh (talk) 16:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Please stop removing maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Symbolic language (engineering), without resolving the problem that the template refers to. This may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. Hzh (talk) 21:49, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Symbolic language (engineering), you may be blocked from editing. Hzh (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Symbolic language (literature) moved to draftspace
[edit]The article needs more citations to sources that discuss symbolic language in the context of literature, in order to demonstrate that an article with more depth than a dictionary entry can be written about the subject without resorting to original research. I tried looking on Google Scholar but wasn't able to find anything conclusive in the first few pages of results. I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel that the previous concerns have been addressed, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. signed, Rosguill talk 22:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
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- ^ "Encyclopedia". Archived from the original on August 3, 2007. Glossary of Library Terms. Riverside City College, Digital Library/Learning Resource Center. Retrieved on: November 17, 2007.
- ^ a b Hartmann, R. R. K.; James, Gregory; James, Gregory (1998). Dictionary of Lexicography. Routledge. p. 48. ISBN 978-0-415-14143-7. Retrieved July 27, 2010.
- ^ Béjoint, Henri (2000). Modern Lexicography, pp. 30–31. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-829951-6
- ^ "Encyclopaedia". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved July 27, 2010.
An English lexicographer, H.W. Fowler, wrote in the preface to the first edition (1911) of The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English language that a dictionary is concerned with the uses of words and phrases and with giving information about the things for which they stand only so far as current use of the words depends upon knowledge of those things. The emphasis in an encyclopedia is much more on the nature of the things for which the words and phrases stand.
- ^ Hartmann, R. R. K.; Gregory, James (1998). Dictionary of Lexicography. Routledge. p. 49. ISBN 978-0-415-14143-7. Retrieved July 27, 2010.
In contrast with linguistic information, encyclopedia material is more concerned with the description of objective realities than the words or phrases that refer to them. In practice, however, there is no hard and fast boundary between factual and lexical knowledge.
- ^ Cowie, Anthony Paul (2009). The Oxford History of English Lexicography, Volume I. Oxford University Press. p. 22. ISBN 978-0-415-14143-7. Retrieved August 17, 2010.
An 'encyclopedia' (encyclopaedia) usually gives more information than a dictionary; it explains not only the words but also the things and concepts referred to by the words.