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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (January 16)

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This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Rusalkii (talk) 01:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Bobpurvey1

A tag has been placed on User:Bobpurvey1 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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Draft moved

Now at Draft:Bob Purvey David notMD (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bob Purvey

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bob Purvey

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 00:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm a novice at this and could use some reasonable help editing my draft bio. Anyone interested, please contact me with rates. bobpurvey@aol.com Bobpurvey1 (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editing my draft

Hi, I'm a novice at this and could use some reasonable help editing my draft bio. Anyone interested, please contact me with rates. bobpurvey@aol.com Bobpurvey1 (talk) 01:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are likely going to be scammed if you leave this here. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ooooh, yeah. Bob, if anyone offers to write an article about you for pay, run away. They're scamming you. valereee (talk) 17:20, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the tip. Now I know. Nonetheless, do you know how I can get my bio edited so it conforms to Wikipedia's standards and practices. I'm just over my head in tasks and I tried to edit it but it seems there is a lot to digest to understand how to do it properly. Thanks for any advice. Bob 2603:8001:9BF0:430:202B:16AF:D20E:F124 (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is that you don't create an article about yourself, wait until somebody entirely unconnected with you decides that you arenotable enough. Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like I have to depend on sheer luck that some writer of the type I'm looking for would stumble upon anything notable about me then pick up on writing a bio. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:202B:16AF:D20E:F124 (talk) 20:11, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is typically how an article comes to be written: Someone notices a notable topic that doesn't have an article, and they create it. If a topic is clearly notable it gets created quickly. If it is more bordeline, it takes a bit longer. Wikipedia is fine with that. valereee (talk) 23:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Autobiography is allowed

However, ALL content needs to be verified by reliable source references, ideally at least three. Not your website. Not social media. Not interviews. Etc., etc. A quickie search suggets you are surfer/actor, but I saw nothing that looked like a credible at-length article about you. David notMD (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have lots of magazine articles that refer to me as a champion surfer and actor. Lots of awards too. There's also video and movies, and credits cross referenced on IMDB. Only problem is I do not know how to refer to them in a bio on Wikipedia. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:202B:16AF:D20E:F124 (talk) 06:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to log in when you edit here, videos and IMDb are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 07:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When credits are crossed referenced on IMDB, the reference is usually a media sources, and in my case they are major media sources. Wouldn't they be a reliable reference even if they were a major media source on IMDB?

Ultimately the answer to the question I am searching for is how do I reference a relaible source in my bio in Wikipedia? Bobpurvey1 (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2022

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Your talk page is not the place to create an article either. Theroadislong (talk) 14:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. I understand I have to be notable. Ben Marcus had recently submitted a bio of me that was not supported with references and had images of me that were in question about the copyrights. I have since edited the bio to conform to the standards I hope and deleted the images in question. Also, the references are linked in a .PDF version, which I do not know how to upload. Also, I do not know where best to place the .PDF version with the links to the references. Could you please help guide me through the maze you first suggested? Thanks, Bob 2603:8001:9BF0:430:5480:274F:7187:7C39 (talk) 16:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you copy your article to your sandbox here User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox and read WP:REFB for help with formatting sources correctly or just edit the existing draft here Draft:Bob Purvey.Theroadislong (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No one seems to want to help me. Did I place the autobiography in the proper place? Bobpurvey1 (talk) 20:33, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bobpurvey1. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. The page User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How do I replace a biography with an autobiography

Hi, originally, I tried to write my bio but after many machinations, a suggestion was made to have someone else write it for me. Ben Marcus tried but arguments were raised about copyrights of my photos, and after explaining numerous times in various but reasonable ways that I owned the photos, then becoming frustrated, the effort became untenable to keep trying to move forward with it. Also, there were a few references made that were inaccurate. Now, I have an autobiography with numerous viable references but don't understand how to structure the links. I have a PDF version with the links embedded. Could someone look at the PDF version and instruct me? Bobpurvey1 (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 21:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I read your comment. It was brief, without explanation and a complete rejection, showing no encouragement to be productive. Makes me wonder what are the professional standards at Wikipedia? Is Wikipedia a public forum supporting the education of the public, or is it a facade that is a private club pretending to be supportive of public education? I have asked for guidance, over and over again, instead I get a complete rejection. Shame on you. Bobpurvey1 (talk) 23:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia with articles about notable topics, it is not a "public forum supporting the education of the public". Per Wikipedia:Autobiography writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged because it is difficult to write a neutral, verifiable autobiography, and there are many pitfalls. If you are genuinely notable in Wikipedia terms, somebody will write an article about you, please wait, your attempts so far are totally unacceptable. see WP:CIR. Theroadislong (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 06:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop

Do not paste your biography or anything else en-masse, anywhere on Wikipedia ever again. Not only is it promotional it's an outright copyright violation which has legal implications. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was placed in the "Teahouse" to get help with editing it. I don't understand why you are referring to it as a publication for speedy deletion. I thought the Teahouse was an internal place to get editing help. I own the product. I produced it. I reserve all rights. Why are you referring to it as a copyright infringement? I clicked on the link for the Teahouse. Did the link take me else wear? Where else should I place it to get editing help? 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

IP who I assume is Bobpurvey1, the Teahouse is place to ask for help, but it is not a place to drop huge amounts of text for review. You can use a link instead. Also, do not copy/paste text from elsewhere to Wikipedia - even if you wrote the text - unless it has been released under a compatible license. The bio on IMDb is copyrighted - there's a copyright notice at the bottom. It's entirely unsuitable as an article in any case.

I've restored the question part (just the question part) of your post at the Teahouse. You may get more responses there. 97.126.103.107 (talk) 18:53, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Bobpurvey1/Sandbox

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The Teahouse states to be "Welcoming" and "polite". You are not offering ideas that are welcoming or polite. I suggest you back off being harsh and acting like the bully on the block, but rather be kind, polite, and offer supportive ideas, encouragement to follow the rules, explaining to the novice how one might achieve their purpose/goal. Wikipedia is a maze and very difficult to navigate for anyone new to the site. Obviously I am making numerous attempts to conform to Wikipedia's standards. Encountering harsh critiques such as yours makes the Wikipedia experiences almost intolerable. Try being more considerate. Its professional to take the time to accommodate ignorance. Ignorance is not a fault - we're all born ignorant. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:Autobiography if your life and achievements are verifiable and genuinely notable, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later, but creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged: we want biographies here, not autobiographies. Please STOP. Theroadislong (talk) 19:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir, please follow the back and forth. I stopped trying to submit an autobiography a two days ago. The autobiography was re-written into a biography. Now I am encountering another obstacle, which is that I am submitting the bio rather than the preferred way via a neutral writer. So now, since the bio is practically written, I own the copyrights to everything, I m willing to offer a volunteer from the Teahouse to edit it and conform the citations with the URLs that are readily available. If you can encourage a writer in the Teahouse to take on this volunteer, simple task it would be greatly appreciated. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong: I have no ego about having the bio on Wikipedia. My purpose is to have a presence on Wikipedia so that I might cut to the quick with executives who are unfamiliar with me when I pitch solutions for environmental fixes to our water concerns. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 19:55, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put, that is not what Wikipedia is for. That's what you resume is for. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not reply to any of my concerns here. You are not helpful. I will not reply to yours anymore. Sorry. Bobpurvey1 (talk) 21:09, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will not contest the deletion for I understand the amount is too much to digest. Thank you for leaving the pertinent information. Should you know of a volunteer writer in the Teahouse who can take on the task, encouraging them would be greatly appreciated. Nonetheless, I appreciate it if you don't have the time. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your reason for wanting an article is incompatible with our guidelines. Your "purpose is to have a presence on Wikipedia so that I might cut to the quick with executives" that is NOT what Wikipedia is for, you have been told many, many, many times. Theroadislong (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why are there bios on Wikipedia? 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 20:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am truly curious about your answer. 2603:8001:9BF0:430:801F:821E:A3C7:CA5B (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because we are an encyclopaedia. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please sign in before commenting here. Theroadislong (talk) 20:24, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be having great difficulty understanding how Wikipedia works, please read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help and then come back again. Theroadislong (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia editors are human beings who volunteer their leisure time to improve this encyclopedia. Why send them on a fool's errand to benefit your career, as opposed to adding to the body of world knowledge? It's totally a non-starter. Seriously, who advised you to try this?--Quisqualis (talk) 20:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read my bio? Bobpurvey1 (talk) 21:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I read it. Why are you being argumentative? I will not reply to any more of your messages. Bobpurvey1 (talk) 21:07, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]