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Thin Lizzy

Please do not move pages for no reason. "One Night Only" is not a tribute album. Please check your facts before doing this kind of thing. Thanks. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Stop removing members of the band from the template. You seem to think the band have broken up or something. I suggest you leave these articles alone if you don't know your facts. Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Cut-n-paste move

Hi, I have noticed that you have cut-n-pasted the content of the Antiokh Dmitrievich Kantemir instead of just moving the article. I agree that Antiokh Dmitrievich is a weird name, but please never do cut-n-paste moves: this way you loose the history of article changes and even violate terms of GFDL. If the redicrect has a history and you could not move and article there, then please start WP:RM and an admin will do it for you. Thanks Alex Bakharev (talk) 08:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Tam, de nas nema

Hi, Чръный. Most of the users of Wikipedia do not know how to read Cyrillic, thus, Cyrillic titles are very inconvenient to them. We usually only use Cyrillic titles for the things that were deliberately released by and for Western with Cyrillic titles. Otherwise we either use the name of the song as it was released in the English traslation (if known) or the transliteration of the Cyrillic title. Also as matter of courtesy if a title is somehow established and not obviously wrong (with typos, etc.) it is usually a good idea to discuss any proposed move on the talk page before the move. See WP:MOVE and Wikipedia:BOLD#...but_be_careful for details Alex Bakharev (talk) 20:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ukrainian Orthodox Church

Regarding your edit to Ukrainian Orthodox Church, please note that the current order was agreed upon after careful discussion at Talk:History_of_Christianity_in_Ukraine. If you have suggestions, or additional scientific data, it would be of great help if you would share your thoughts on either discussion page first. Qe2 (talk) 14:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Again, you have changed the order without any discussion and without citing any additional data. As was shown at Talk:History_of_Christianity_in_Ukraine, *all* independent surveys show that the UOC-KP has more followers than the UOC-MP. If you have other data, please feel free to share it. Qe2 (talk) 08:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I see that you added a "Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church (Renovated)" to this page. Do you have any information about this church, or citations regarding its size? Qe2 (talk) 11:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. It is de-faco independent part of Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, although leaders of this organisation consider itself as part of UAOC. (ru:Украинская автокефальная православная церковь (обновлённая), uk:Українська автокефальна православна церква (оновлена)). official name of this organization: "Українська Автокефальна Православна Церква Харківсько-Полтавська Єпархія" - "Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church. Kharkiv-Poltava Eparchy". By the way: you may see their site http://uapc.org.ua/ ~ Чръный человек (talk) 11:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Steve Price

Hi - why did you redirect Steve Price without discussion? You have incorrectly titled the new page, he does not play Rugby, he plays Rugby league. A quick glance at the what links here would show you that the rugby league player is clearly the primary subject - will you be updating the wikilinks after you have fixed the disambig? Thanks,  florrie  10:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I see you know the profession оf Steve Price better than me. (The fact is Rugby Union and Rugby Union league for me are all the same). If I have done something wrorg, plese correct it. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 11:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

The move and renaming is now being discussed here. For future reference, it may be helpful to read WP:DISAMBIG, in particular: A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.  florrie  01:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

What a lot of fuss and bother you've created with the re-direct. What's prompted me to say something is your comment "The fact is Rugby Union and Rugby Union for me are all the same" which I take to mean that to you Rugby League and Rugby Union are the same. Well if you know nothing about the topic, then why are you meddling with the article ?-Sticks66 14:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Age of Enlightenment

Dear Чръный - I've been keeping an eye on the "Age of Enlightenment" template. A while ago I pruned it, with the consent of some other people - it was getting too long. There are three main conditions that I've been suggesting - that the "notable figures" be known for their writing (rather than as politicians, musicians, mathematicians, etc.), that their dates line up with the Enlightenment, and that they meet a decent standard of notability. At that time a lot of people were removed, including the ones you recently added back in. I would be happy to discuss this more on the discussion page (see "this list needs criteria for inclusion") Best! 134.174.140.216 (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Mys Shmidta

Hi, you have moved the page Mys Shmidta to Mys Schimdta. This is an incorrect romanization as stated here: [1] could you please revert this move as well as your identical change to the chukotka autonomous okrug template. Thanks. Fenix down (talk) 16:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the article back as per WP:RUS.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:52, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Hryhorii Skovoroda

Could you please look at this? It is incredible. --Antoni Chojnacki (talk) 13:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I really don't understand where I have to look? ~ Чръный человек (talk) 13:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hryhorii Skovoroda Can I expect any support from your side? --Antoni Chojnacki (talk) 22:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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Jerome (Shaw)

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New page

I just created Elena Frolova. Welcome to contribute if you are interested. My very best wishes (talk) 00:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Based on your edits on ruwiki you should be interested... I think she is a good poet, but what she does with her music and song is simply incredible. She takes good poetry, but something I would not be especially impressed with (e.g. "Buzina" by Tsvetaeva is hardly one of her best), and transforms it with enormous passion to something beyond imagination. Probably only best songs by Pugacheva and a few songs by others would be in the same league. Others either do not reach same level of performance or create very nice and beautiful songs, nothing more. Speaking about Blazhenny (or Blazhennykh?) [2],[3], I think we need an article about him too.My very best wishes (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Done, Veniamin Blazhenny. My very best wishes (talk) 21:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Переименования

Именование статей о клириках с фамилией в скобках в англоязычной традиции неслыханно и в данном языковом разделе не используется. Просьба воздержаться от неконсенсусных переименований. --Ghirla^-трёп- 05:50, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Слово "неслыханно" свидетельствует о вашем недостаточном знакомстве с источниками. Результаты поиска в гугле свидетельствуют о том, что очень даже слыханно. Могу также сказать и то что в викиэнциклопедии orthodoxwiki.org для монашествующих используется именно именование со скобками. Конечно, викисайт не может служить авторитетным источником, но тот факт, что сообщество, основная часть которого по-русски не говорит, избрала такую модель именования статей, кое о чём горит. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 06:40, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Но мы-то в википедии, а не на сайте монашествующих. Здесь свои традиции, которые точечными переименованиями не изменишь. --Ghirla^-трёп- 06:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Я имел ввиду не викиэнциклопедию для монашествующих, а то что в викиэнциклопедии orthodoxwiki.org при именовании статей о монашествующих используются скобки.

Конечно традиции англовики Вам известны лучше, чем мне, но насколько я успел заметить в англовики, в отличие от русской, не разработано правил для именования статей о православном духовенстве. Если с белым духовенством всё вобщем ясно: статья именуются так же как и у светских лиц, то с монашесвующими, особенно епископами начинаются уже неясности: вот например, отчего статья именуется "Filaret, Metropolitan of Moscow", а не например "Metropolitan Filaret of Moscow" или или "Philaret (Drozdov) of Moscow", или "Metropolitan Filaret (Drozdov)", не говоря уже о "Philaret (Drozdov)", версии, которую я предлагал. Уверяю вас, подобные варианты при именовании статей о православных епископах мне встречались. Собственно, мои "точечные" переименования были направлены в точм числе и на наведение порядка в именовании статей. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 12:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Yuri Kublanovsky

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People of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent

Dear Чръный человек,

Since you seem to be a rational soul and know about Orthodoxy and the "Byzantine" (no pun intended!) subtleties of 'old European' cultural categorization and Church(es) history, I’m writing to draw your attention to the fact that some reckless Wiki-Boeotians want to delete the “People of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent” and the “American of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent” categories!

See this page

Your erudite editorial help in the current « deletion debate » would be appreciated

Cordially,

--B.Andersohn (talk) 13:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello, you made 4 recent edits to the Kiril article without providing a single edit summary. Perhaps, with 3, they were minor edits, but this one involved the removal of significant information. Maybe the edit was correct, maybe not, but to not explain it is rude to other editors and creates more work for them. If you explain, then we know immediately why you did it and don't have to guess or revert. Why exactly did you remove this info, btw? Malick78 (talk) 12:18, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

This passage (with "wife") is not needed. Patriarch Cyril has been never married, in fact he is a monk, that fully eliminates any possibility of getting married. Moreover, three links following this phrase does not contain information about Lydia Leonovа's marital status (1st and 3rd link I couln't open). ~ Чръный человек (talk) 12:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll AGF, but in future please leave proper summaries. Bol'shoe spasibo. Malick78 (talk) 22:43, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I see somebody reverted all your edits from today on that page! I happen to agree with the revert, so unless you give proper summaries I'll back the other editor. Especially about the Pussy Riot stuff - that should stay and is entirely legitimate (how you could delete it WITHOUT a summary beggars belief). Regards, Malick78 (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

The fact is Patriarch never said anything specifically about Pussy Riot. In 2012, there were many cases where people are directly displayed extreme aggression against Christian symbols. Just a case of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was the most famous. The message of the patriarch in the fact that people can not act like that. Patriarch's words were presented incorrectly, their original meaning was distorted. I generally watch the patriarch, but I never heard him say exactly what had happened in the CSC: "they were "doing the work of Satan"". And if he did not say that the whole section is lost it's reason. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 07:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

The fact that you didn't hear of him saying that is not a reason to delete (without a summary) info with RS. I see that [again you have failed to give summaries]; if you continue to do so I will report you for disruptive editing. I asked you very politely the first time, I can't for the life of me see why you think it's ok to break a basic rule of WP etiquette. Malick78 (talk) 18:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

New page

This may need your expertise. Do you know if are any images available? My very best wishes (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I checked and corrected. Free image is not available. Someone uploaded his photo under a free license, but adminimtrator did not believe that picture was free and deleted it. ~ 16:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! However, I am not sure that you made correct move (just to be like on ruwiki). It is my understanding that "Hieromonk Roman" makes sense, but simply "Roman" does not. This is like Apostle Paul versus simply "Paul". Perhaps more important, "Hieromonk Roman" in this context actually appears as his pen-name (strange, is not it?). My very best wishes (talk) 19:43, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

George (Schaefer)

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Re: Cornelius (Jakobs)

Hi mate! I saw the above at AFD and it looked like you had stepped away for a couple of hours. So I did some cleaning up, added some sources and responded at the AFD. Please feel free to fix anything I might have gotten wrong (I do plenty with the Catholic Church but Eastern Orthodoxy is well outside my comfort zone). Hopefully the sources I added were okay but feel free to swap them out if you find better ones. It was really just a matter of making a few fixes so I could justify !voting to keep it. Let me know if I can help in any way. Cheers, Stalwart111 07:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Deep thanks for your edits. The sources you found are very important. The article, i thunk, would not be deleted. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 18:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't think it will be. Again, let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers, Stalwart111 13:37, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Michael (Donskoff)

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I'm sorry, I did not have time to finish article at that time. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 09:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Russian saints

Hello, you may have noticed that I created the first part of the article List of Russian saints, List of Russian saints (until 15th century). You may help me finding the missing dates of canonization and correct some errors. Regards. Tomcat (7) 16:13, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

"The most orthodox" is wrong translation of word "Благоверный". Right-beleiving (from OCA site) is better. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Почему? Так считает Русско-английский словарь религиозной лексики [4]. С уважением.--Tomcat (7) 13:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Но в вашей же ссылке (чуть ниже) написано: "благоверный
1) Jocular: husband
2) Religion: blessed
3) Christianity: right-believing".

"The most orthodox" - в обратном переводе на русский ведь будет звучать как "православнейший". Что же выходит: все прочие святые не такие православные как святые цари и князья? ~ Чръный человек (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Ещё один недостаток этого списка в том, что здесь нет единой системы в именах: они могут как переводиться: Michael, так и траслитерироваться: Mikhail. А ещё в некоторых местах тут откуда то взялись греческие формы имён, наример Agaphodoros. Я постарался привести всё к одной форме. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 13:36, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Да, я знаю, это частая проблема в английском языке, есть несколько видов транскрипции. Например можно писать Rublev, или Rublyov, и.т.д. Я думаю нужно писать иноческие имён на греческом, а мiрние русские — на русском. Вот Andrew я бы оставил Andrey. Tomcat (7) 15:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Когда я пишу о православном духовенстве я в целом использую такую практику: монашеские имена (даваемые в церковнославянской форме) переводятся, а светские (по паспорту) - транслитерируются. Но со святыми всё несколько сложней - ведь в месяцеслове и в житиях они тоже даются как монашеские, то есть в церковнославянской форме: Феодор, а не Фёдор; Иоанн, а не Иван; Алексий, а не Алексей, и др. И поэтому я считаю возможным использовать перевод этих имён, а не транслитерацию. В истониках на английском языке уже устоялось называть Ионна Крошташского John of Kronstadt. Перевод для всех святых используется и на сайте ПЦА. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits and clarifications. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:04, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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Yes I see that it is licensed and I apologize for missing that. However a wiki almost by definition does not qualify as a reliable source. That means while the words can be used under the license, any content needs to be supported by reliable sources.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:54, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hamlet (1964 film)

Thanks for clarifying your reason for deleting the reference to Stepan Oleksenko. But I notice that both the Russian and Ukrainian Wikipedia articles on him describe him as Ukrainian; his parents were Ukrainian; he trained as an actor and worked principally in Kiev. In the context of this article, is it not reasonable to refer to him as Ukrainian? Lampernist (talk) 12:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

• I do not agree with phrase "first language was not Russian". I did not find his detailed biography. I do not know when he moved from Volgograd (then Stalingrad) oblast, where he was born, to Kiev. But the Ukrainian schools in the Stalingrad oblast were not existed. But in Kiev, where he lived after the war, school education was in Russian, although the Ukrainian language and history were also studied. I want to note that Kiev during the times of Soviet Ukraine was for the most part a Russian-speaking city. This is particularly evident in a society of people with higher education. It's incorrect to represent Olexenko as a certain semi-foreigner, to whom the Russian language was not native. The situation was completely different with the Baltic actors. They were born, lived and studied in the interwar period, when Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were not part of the USSR. The study of the Russian language at that time was not mandatory. The culture there was not Russian and not Soviet. Such situation notedly continued even after the entry of these countries into the USSR. Therefore, the Baltic actors were often recruited for the role of foreigners in Soviet films. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

From what you say, the central point about casting actors from contrasted ethnic backgrounds is indeed more strongly made by confining the references to the Baltic actors. Thank you for your explanation. Lampernist (talk) 14:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Vasyl Hryhorovych-Barskyi

I not suppose, that an English Wikipedia is a place for "Russiafication" or "Ukrainization" or another "...ation", but for collecting an information, if it's possible true and correct. And article about Vasyl Hryhorovych-Barskyi was created with this name, that you moved without any explanations. Also I see, that you at the Revision history page left a some words written, that can be understands as an offensive and not accorded with the grammar of the Russian or the Ukrainian languages ("щирый украйинець и сторонник мовы"). Please, avoid it, because I think, it's not a good idea to offend any nation, language etc. Sincerely, --Noel baran (talk) 09:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

• The article does not contain any sources at all. You renamed this article, based on conviction, and not on sources analysis. Most of all, I do not understand why you comletely removed the Russian-language transcription from head of the article. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 10:08, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Tha article "was created with this name", as I wrote before, and you, based on conviction, and not on sources analysis, renamed it. About the Russian-language transcription, it's possible to leave it (as related to time, that Barskyi was in a time of the Russian Empire), but surly together with an Ukrainian one. But I see, that you removed an Ukrainian. Maybe, it's better for us, to ask an arbitrage, because we are blaming each other--Noel baran (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine site spells him as Vasyl Grigorivich-Barsky. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 10:23, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Metro Stations

Can I ask you too hold off on more edits? I’m going to have to do a lot of cleanup. You’ve done everything in lowercase, but some of your translations aren’t actually correct or entirely proper English. So id rather you hold off and work with someone on this just to minimize the cleanup work. TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 10:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Do it if you sure. I stopped my Moscow Metro edits here. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 10:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. A lot of the translations were extremely literal. And in some casss, there is already an explanation of the name in the article, which may be better since there are some nuances in how various stations received their names. Kievskaya isn’t really named after Kiev, it’s named for the railroad station. TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 11:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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Why do you keep adding full stops after references?

You keep doing it. Adding a reference, followed by a full stop. See here; In 1975, he appeared in film Circasia about happenings in a small Irish traveling circus [5]. The full stop is before the reference. The source is weak btw. H Havens (talk) 20:18, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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Please provide a source

Could you provide a source for your change to Latvian Orthodox Autonomous Church ("During 1994-2011 it was part of the Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church")? EDIT: forgot to sign. Veverve (talk) 12:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

You have made some edits, but you still have not provided any source to support them. Veverve (talk) 12:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

It was a erroneous decision to create such article due to lack of accurate information about Latvian Orthodox Autonomous Church. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Could you translate this article?

Hello. Could you please translate this article in English? Veverve (talk) 01:58, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I decided to try to do it myself. If you have time, could you please have a look a what I did? Veverve (talk) 04:17, 30 November 2019 (UTC) EDIT: As you can see, in my translation I took the liberty of updating the information and to remove most of the unsourced parts of the article. I believe the Russian version of the article should be updated. Since you speak Russian, I suggest you to do it. Veverve (talk) 13:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! By the way, if you need help to correct one one your articles, feel free to ask me. Veverve (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I think "Role of the DECR" section contains too big quotation. It can be claimed to be copyright infringement. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I tried to reduce it a bit. Veverve (talk) 23:36, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Could you help me?

Could you add what this article says in this section of this article? I kind of get what the article is saying, but the translation from Google translate is far from being perfect this time. Veverve (talk) 13:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

• This judgment does not apply to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine established by the Patriarchate of Constantinople, but to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which is in unity with the Moscow Patriarchate (but actially not depended on Moscow). This news contains reference information: "On December 20, 2018, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a law obliging the UOC to indicate its affiliation to the Russian Orthodox Church in its name. On December 22, 2018 the fifth President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed the relevant law.
  The document provides that a religious organization, which is a part of the structure of a religious organization with the center in the state, "committed military aggression against Ukraine and temporarily occupied its territory", is obliged to display in its name the belonging to such a center outside the country.
  Meanwhile, the UOC stated that it does not fall under this law, since its administrative center is not in Moscow, but in Kiev.
  On April 22, 2019, the District administrative court of Kiev granted the application of the Kiev Metropolis of the UOC to secure a claim for the cancellation of the order of the Ministry of culture of Ukraine, in accordance with which the Kiev metropolis of the UOC had to make changes to its name. Thus, the process of renaming the UOC was suspended.
  Subsequently, the Ministry of culture appealed against this decision of the court. However, on July 22, the decision of the District administrative court was confirmed by the decision of the Sixth administrative court of appeal.
  In response, the Ministry of culture of Ukraine appealed to the Supreme Court with a cassation appeal, asking to cancel these decisions of the courts. In November, first Deputy Minister Svetlana Fomenko said that the Department [i.e. Ukrainian Ministry of Culture] intends in the near future to intensify efforts to resolve the issue of renaming the UOC." After that the Supreme court of Ukraine rejected the appeal of the Ministry of culture ~ Чръный человек (talk) 13:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, but it is not the part which is giving me troubles. The partI need to understand is:

"Верховный суд Украины оставил без удовлетворения кассационную жалобу министерства культуры на решение Окружного административного суда Киева о приостановке переименования Украинской православной церкви.

Как сообщается в Едином государственном реестре судебных решений, соответствующее постановление суд принял по результатам заседания 11 декабря.

"Коллегия судей соглашается с выводами судов предыдущих инстанций, которые установили, что применение мер обеспечения этого иска путем запрета совершения всем уполномоченным регистрационным органам любых регистрационных действий в отношении сведений в Единый государственный реестр о Киевской митрополии УПЦ и ее структурных религиозных организациях до решения данного спора по существу заявленных исковых требований является целесообразным и необходимым, поскольку непринятие таких мер может существенно осложнить или вообще сделать невозможным исполнение решения суда в случае удовлетворения исковых требований и усложнить эффективную защиту и восстановление прав и интересов истца, для защиты которых он обратился в суд", - говорится в обосновании позиции суда.

Постановление вступает в законную силу со дня его принятия и обжалованию не подлежит."

Veverve (talk) 14:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

This phrase is very difficult to understand even in Russian: "применение мер обеспечения этого иска путем запрета совершения всем уполномоченным регистрационным органам любых регистрационных действий в отношении сведений в Единый государственный реестр о Киевской митрополии УПЦ и ее структурных религиозных организациях до решения данного спора по существу заявленных исковых требований является целесообразным и необходимым". This roughly means, that all authorized registration bodies are prohibited to perform any registration [i.e. changing] actions in relation to the Kiev metropolis of the UOC and its structural religious organizations prior to the resolution of court dispute on the merits of the claimed claims. This decision of the courts of previous instances was recognized as "suitable and necessary". The rationale for such a decision was that in the case of satisfaction of the claims it can "significantly complicate or even make impossible the execution of the judgment and complicate the effective protection and restoration of the rights and interests of the plaintiff, for the protection of which [i.e. rights and interests] it appealed to the court." ~ Чръный человек (talk) 14:27, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Veverve (talk) 22:33, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Need you to check my draft

Hello! I tried to make a rought schematic of the schisms which came out of the Russian Orthodox Church. Could you please have a look and give me some feedback? I know I still have to add the w:Union of Brest. Veverve (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Quite a strange scheme. It is poorly designed. It is poorly rendered. For exampe old believers have never were united, but they are represented by a single line, and the "branches" of the ROCOR by a different lines. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 20:18, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Well, as I said it is a "rought schematic" so of course it is very ugly and hard to read. I am working with a graphic designer who hopefully will take care of the final design and make things neater. As for the Old Believers, I thought about showing the different churches/sects, but I thought it would have made the schematic too cluttered, and that it would have taken a lot of time to do research on every group. I think the Old Believers need to have their own schematics only for them. As for the splits from the ROCOR, I believe there is no problem.

What I am more interested in is: is the data accurate (nothwistanding my decision to simplify by showing the Old Believers only as one movement and not each church)?

As a sidenote, please ping me next time you answer me, as I only saw your answer today. Veverve (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

May be of any interest to you

This might interest you. I do not know how the Ukrainian Wikipedia deals with articles being mentioned, since there is no Ukrainian version of Template:Press. Veverve (talk) 21:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Please check my translation

Hello, could you check the translation I and a mapper made of this map in Russian? Note: "Tavastians" has been added, and the map is currently very minimalist. Veverve (talk) 20:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

• The translation, you made, is correct. However, the names of territories should be in a different font than the names of towns. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

It is now fixed. Could you also review the information I wrote here? Veverve (talk) 14:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

No. Gramota is much more common term that tomos. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 19:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

The final map is out. Veverve (talk) 15:55, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

• Vyshhorod and Kaniv were transcribed from Ukrainian language, while the rest towns from the Russian language. In Russian they are Vyshhorod and Kanev. In Novgorod-Seversky the final y is missed. ~ 16:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

This is because the translation tries to follow the names of the Wikipedia articles, e.g. Vyshhorod, Principality of Novgorod-Seversk. Veverve (talk) 16:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Oh, you are right for Novgorod-Seversky. Veverve (talk) 16:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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Indonesian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate)

I read at http://friendsofindonesia.org/ that this church had not come under any omophorion. The Moscow Patriarchte only talks about an "Indonesian mission". Are you sure the IOC is still under the MP? Veverve (talk) 11:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

• The Russian Orthodox Church has never establish a structure with the name "Indonesian Orthodox Church". Maybe it was only self-title. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 12:09, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Could you check this timeline?

Hello, could you check this timeline of the schisms from within the ROC and give your feedback? The legends for "**" and "***" will be added later. Veverve (talk) 17:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• In this form, this scheme is quite meaningless because it puts very large schisms (Old Believers, the Kiev Patriarchate) in one row with very small ones. There are a number of small splits. But there is often very little information about them. And there are very many small associations that have broken away from the Moscow Patriarchate. Thus, it is almost impossible to create the complete diagram of all those who have separated once. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 17:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I know, I have only tried to put the main schisms. Thanks for your feedback. Veverve (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

It should be noted that information published by representatives of small associations publish about themselves may significantly distort facts. And there are very few scientific studies on this topic were published and these studies are very fragmentary. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 20:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

The final version is here. Veverve (talk) 14:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Advice for a translation

I translated "Православные церкви вне общения со Вселенским православием" to "Eastern Orthodox churches out of communion with Ecumenical Orthodoxy" on WCommons. However, I second guess this decision: maybe "Eastern Orthodox churches outside of communion with World Orthodoxy" is a better translation. What do you think? Veverve (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

• I think "World Orthodoxy" is definitely better especially in connection with the claims of the "Ecumenical Patriarchate" to universal authority in the Church. In addition, the term "World Orthodoxy" is also used by communities that are not part of it ~ Чръный человек (talk) 02:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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The merge proposal for ru:Сергианство has been refused since 2015. Could you do what must be done to close it? Veverve (talk) 20:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Need of feedback for another Eastern Orthodox timeline

Hello. Could you give me any feedback on this timeline whose goal is to show the juridictional origin of each of the mainstream Eastern Orthodox Churches? Veverve (talk) 20:48, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• Church of Cyprus never was a part of pentarchy. It was a part of Patriarchate of Antioch until 431. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 21:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I was not implying that the CoC was in the Pentarchy, but I understand that it can be unclear the way I presented it. Since it is impossible to say whether the CoC was always autocephalous or if it was once part of the Church of Antioch, I changed beginning the draft. You can see the new version here. Veverve (talk) 09:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

The timeline was released today here. Veverve (talk) 19:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help in translation

Hello. I am having trouble translating part of the quote here from Russian to English. Could you have a look?
The original gives: "Нам нужно не на словах, а на деле показать, что верными гражданами Советского Союза, лояльными к Советской власти, могут быть не только равнодушные к православию люди, не только изменники ему, но и самые ревностные приверженцы его, для которых оно дорого, как истина и жизнь, со всеми его догматами и преданиями, со всем его каноническим и богослужебным укладом."
I have translated it pretty clumsily using Google translate and a partial translation as: "We must show, not by words but rather by deeds, that not only those who are indifferent to Orthodoxy, not only those who have betrayed it, but even its most zealous adherents can be faithful citizens of the Soviet Union and loyal to Soviet authority, for whom it is as dear as the truth and life with all its dogmas and traditions, all its canonical and service ways."
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• I had to rearrange the words to make it clear: "We need to show, not in words, but in deeds, that not only people who are indifferent to Orthodox Christianity, not only those who have betrayed it, but also its most zealous adherents, for whom it is dear as truth and life, with all its dogmas and traditions, with all its canonical and liturgical structure can be faithful citizens of the Soviet Union, loyal to the Soviet government". ~ Чръный человек (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
• Also the translation from rocorstudies.org: "We need to show not just in words but in deeds that trustworthy citizens of the Soviet Union, loyal to the Soviet regime, are not only those indifferent to Orthodoxy, not only its apostates, but also its most ardent supporters for whom it, with all its dogmas and traditions, with all its canonical and liturgical order, is as dear as truth and life themselves" (source). ~ Чръный человек (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I have added your translation.
Still, I have another doubt.
How would you translate: "Всякий удар, направленный в Союз, будь то война, бойкот, какое-нибудь общественное бедствие или просто убийство из-за угла, подобное варшавскому, сознается нами как удар, направленный в нас."
I have translated it as: "Any blow directed at the Union, be it a war, a boycott, some kind of social disaster, or just a murder from around the corner, like the Warsaw one, is recognized by us as a blow directed at us."
The last part - "a murder from around the corner, like the Warsaw one" - seems strange to me, especially since it appears to refer to the Polish-Soviet war of 1920.
Veverve (talk) 18:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

• "Any blow aimed at the [Soviet] Union, whether it is a war, a boycott, some public calamity, or just a murder from around the corner, like the Warsaw one, is recognized by us as a blow aimed at us". ~ Чръный человек (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Need of information concerning a True Orthodox Church

Hello. I am facing a strange situation which I am not sure I understand properly, so I would need your help. From what I understand, the First Hierarch of the ROCOR V-F, Filaret (Semovskikh) (yes, its Russian Wikipedia page is in complete disarray), has apparently been replaced by someone else as First Hierarch, Filaret (Rozhnov). Filaret (Semovskikh) refused this election, and created a new Holy Synod. Semovskikh was then removed from office the Holy Synod headed by Rozhnov.
Trying to explain the situation, I wrote:

- ROCOR (V-F (R)): the ROCOR V-F after it excommunicated its First Hierarch Met. Filaret (Semovskikh) in October 2020; the church had apparently previously elected Filaret (Rozhnov) as First Hierarch in 2019, see also here, here, here, here, and here. I may add it in the future.

However, I find it strange that a new First Hierarch was elected before the current one was officially removed. After patiently looking into the older posts of the official website of the ROCOR (V-F (R)), I found no declaration of the Holy Synod about the election of Filaret (Rozhnov) as First Hierarch in 2019. The only place this information is officialy given is in the biography of Filaret (Rozhnov). Could you make some more research to confirm that Filaret (Rozhnov) was elected as First Hierarch in 2019, before Filaret (Semovskikh) was removed?
Also, could you find the official website of the church Filaret (Semovskikh) is now leading? Veverve (talk) 22:51, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Apparently, the website of the church of Filaret (Semovskikh) is this. Veverve (talk) 02:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

• In 2019, Philaret (Rozhnov) was elected deputy First Hierarch: "29 июля/11 августа 2019 года архимандрит Филарет (Рожнов) во исполнение Постановления Архиерейского Синода ПРЦ/РПЦЗ от 8/21 апреля 2019 года рукоположен Первоиерархом Митрополитом Филаретом (Семовских) и Епископом Серафимом (Корабельским) во епископа Московского и Восточно-Российского, а решением Архиерейского Собора от 25 августа/6 сентября 2019 года был избран Заместителем Первоиерарха и Секретарем Синода с возведением в сан архиепископа". ~ Чръный человек (talk) 07:12, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Do you mean interim/acting First Hierarch? If so, is Rozhnov considered a locum tenens of the FH?

Ok, I managed to find the resolution of the synod from August 25/September 6, 2019. In it, Rozhnov is indeed elected as interim chairman of the synod with Semovskikh still keeping his mantle of FH. Also, from reading "Establishment of the Sochi-Black Sea Vicariate under the omophorion of the First Hierarch of the PRTs / ROCOR, Metropolitan Filaret", it seems Semovskikh was preparing to retire. The situation is clearer now. Do you think I missed something? Veverve (talk) 15:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

It is something like President and Vice-President. This scheme originates back in the ROCOR. As long as the First Hierarch is alive and well, the position of Deputy First Hierarch is rather an honorary one. But in the event of the death, incapacity or resignation of the First Hierarch, the deputy immediately receives the rights of the First Hierarch. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 15:55, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I think a section at Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia should be made to explain this hierarchy. Do you have any source supporting this President and Vice-President hierarchy? If you do, I will use them to create a "Structure" section on the ROCOR WP article. I will also add the dioceses of the ROCOR in said section. Veverve (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I have added the section. However, I could not find information about the role of the Vice-President of the Holy Synod, nor the role of the Second Deputy of the First Hierarch; therefore, I would need your help. Veverve (talk) 23:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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Need some feedback and maybe some help

Hello!
I have recently created Canon law of the Eastern Orthodox Church. If you think about anything which could improve the page, please tell me. I already know there is too many direct quotes.
Moreover, I think the litterature on the subject is more abundant in Russian, so if you find information you think could improve the article, feel free to add them. Veverve (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

A page in dire need of improvement

Catacomb Church should be improved, but I cannot do it myself due to the lack of source and the language barrier. So, I am once again asking for your help.

• sources should be checked to see if they match the information given
• the definition of the subject of the article should be made more precise or more complete; currently, it is very vague; it is especially the case on the reasons why those groups left and how they were considered as illegal — I believe they are not illegal anymore now, but the article states "have moved to an illegal position since the 1920s" so it makes it look like they still are
• the body of the article is totally unsourced

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I am not sure if you are very busy or stopped coming to WP, but I could really use some help on this article. Veverve (talk) 10:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. I appreciate your work on some niche topics. However, it seems when you translate an article from the Russian WP, you do not credit the Russian WP article, e.g. for Josephite movement, Catacomb Church, Orthodox International Youth Festival "Bratya". The Template:Translated page should be put in the talk pages of those articles with proper information. Crediting is mandatory as per CC 3.0. Veverve (talk) 08:24, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

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• There is no such article. There is an article "ru:Старообрядчество". ~ Чръный человек (talk) 15:04, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

• Ok, thank you for your answer. I was expecting the Russian WP to have such an article, but I was wrong. Veverve (talk) 22:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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I understand that "Eparchy" is the most literal translation of the russian term "Епархия". But the fact is that on all English-language diocesan websites of the Russian Orthodox Church, the word "Diocese" is used. "Eparchy" is not used anywhere! ~ Чръный человек (talk) 15:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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