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4th Generation?

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The current information on a "4th Generation Estima" seems to be suspicious. Anyone care to provide evidence for the outlandish features and distant time frame claimed by the author? Thanks. Superchan7 (talk) 08:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

0th Generation?

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In Australia there was a Tarago not currently listed on this page. Manufactured from about 1984 till 1990. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.209.164 (talk) 09:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC) This vehicle is discussed in the following article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Van. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.113.236.198 (talk) 09:23, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Odd" POV

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I removed:

It was an odd mid-engined rear wheel drive vehicle, replacing the simply-named Van. The Previa was criticized for its rounded "one-box" styling and low-output 2.4 L I4 engine, which was located under the driver's seat.

Saying it is 'odd' seems rather pov, and the engine is not under the driver's seat especially. If so it would be offset but in fact is in the middle. Lets hope we can add a more helpful description! Billlion 23:43, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Eggvan

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An odd term, but it does indeed "check out"! See http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=eggvan&btnG=Google+Search for results. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3rd gen Toyota Estima

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There's a 3.0L engine in the 2nd gen Toyota Estima Aeras(special version with body kits)in Malaysia.And there is also a new 3rd gen version of the estima. I think we should add the new info about the 3rd gen estima on this page and redirect the toyota estima page to this page. Tourqe 10:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem somewhat odd, considering that they are basically the same vehicle. I'll put up merge tags and see what people think. SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think? I consider it a good idea to merge the two, since they basically cover the same vehicle. Support? Oppose? Comments? Let's build some consensus... SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree - same car, so having two articles is distracting. The Previa article doesn't even link to jp:wikipedia. Since the vehicle was called Previa in English markets, I think the Estima article should fold into Previa. Combining them is a job though - each has good text. BTW - does the Estima S3 still have a mid-engine layout?76.168.255.60 07:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Toyota Previa is not a Toyota Estima so Merging would be a bad think linking the 2 articles is the best way to go.
Yes it is! Read the article, please!--Airplaneman (talk) 19:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed

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I removed "it was the evolution of the toyota van or van wagon " because it just sat there, exactly like that, at the end of the intro. Maybe, "It evolved from the Toyota van or station wagon" would go?--Airplaneman (talk) 19:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3rd gen

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Yes please cover the third gen, it is out now and i think it should be written up asap

Merging

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I agree with the merging due to the length of the Estima article as long as sufficient linking was put in place

Under which title?

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The original name of the vehicle is Estima but that's only used in Japan. In the rest of the world it's called the Previa except in Australia where it's called the Tarago. Unfortunately in Australia, the name Tarago was also used on the Ace range.

Result? - Confusion.

Experts would know it as the Estima range but Joe Public might not. However, several versions only exist as Estimas, not as Previas so merging the two would produce a very complex article.

On balance I think it best they stay separate but cross linked.

T.E.O.C. 15:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since in English-speaking countries, the vehicle was primarily known as "Previa", it seems that would be the logical choice for a merger. The other issues can be addressed through redirects and good, old-fashioned disambiguation. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The names Estima Emina and Estima Lucida are not only used in Japan, as there is a thriving import market in the UK. It might be worth mentioning this to avoid the confusion described above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Norman21 (talkcontribs) 16:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding platforms and relatives

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The article needs mentioning that since 2nd generation Estima/Previa is based on contemporary Camry platform. Plus, Alphard is the closest Estima's relative, differing only externally in a more boxy body. North-American-specific Sienna shares the same platform. Bolkhov 08:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move

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Why is this under Toyota Previa? Where in the world is it still sold as the Previa? Everywhere I've seen it, it's the Estima (and in AUS, the Tarago). Ever since the Sienna's NA introduction, the Previa has vanished. Please tell me if I am wrong. Luigi6138 00:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is how it was released in the Anglosphere. Keep it how it is. Reginmund 02:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Leave it as-is. SchuminWeb (Talk) 10:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - released as "Previa" in most English-sepaking countries. It may not still be sold under "Previa", but at the time it was released in the Angolsphere, this is what it was called. Leave the way it is. Raime 14:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Picture

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The first picture should be updated with the current 3rd generation Previa to provide a worldwide perspective to this article. The Previa is no longer sold in NA, but this article should not have a NA bias as the car continues to sell in Eurasia and is particularly successful in the Far East. If people here approve I am willing to provide such a picture. I agree with merging Previa/Estima. Off-topic: the 3rd generation is a beautiful car. Superchan7 02:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bear in mind, please, that the third generation Previa is NOT (not yet, anyway) being offered for sale by Toyota in any of the western European markets that I know about - which is quite a lot of them. It IS being sold in Japan and with its Australian name in Australia, and maybe in other Asian markets known to you. It is possible that grey imports from Japan will turn up in European rhd markets (ie UK, Ireland, Malta and ... um) in due course: I guess that depends a little bit on the currency movements, whether it's worthwhile for lots of people to go through all the cost and hassle of exporting a second hand car halfway round the planet: so far, two years after the thing was launched in Asia, I've seen precisely ONE of the latest versions in the UK (and with a UK license plate). But meantime, if you want to think of the Previa as a car sold world wide, think of Versions I and II. If you want to think of it as a current model, then think of it as an Asian market model. Quite where this takes us with the discussion of which version should appear in the top info box I don't know: as long as all the three versions appear somewhere on the page, I would not myself become too agitated about which is at the top of the list, as long as it's a reasonably 'good' - clear and appropriate - picture. But since you appear to think the car is widely sold in Eurasia, and it's not, I guess you may wish to reevaluate your own suggestion.
Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your point is well taken, but I pictured the intent of the article as providing a current view of the Previa/Estima line. You are very correct in that the third generation is not sold worldwide as an officially licensed and supported Toyota product. Superchan7 (talk) 08:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Second generation (2000-2005)

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In the article: "This first generation Estima Hybrid used a single electric motor and a mechanical CVT in its transmission."

According to hybrid-vehicle.net: 'The Japanese Estima Hybrid uses a 2.4 liter, four-cylinder engine couple with front and rear electric motors driving the 4WD configuration. This four-wheel drive system has been dubbed E-Four, which regulates a rear-mounted, rear-wheel propelled electric motor and coordinates electric power distribution to all four wheels.' and 'The Toyota Estima Hybrid Minivan is the world's first hybrid minivan and first mass-produced hybrid 4-wheel drive vehicle.' [1] (For Toyota press release, see [2]) Shouldn't there be two motors? North wiki (talk) 20:03, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Terrible horn"? Really?

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We apparently have at least one editor who has decided that since "editorialistic" and "encyclopedic" both start with the same letter, that it's okay to confuse one with the other. I'm just going to tag it for now. I honestly don't know what else to do with it.Boomshadow talk contribs 16:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Toyota Canarado

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I have removed reference to the "Toyota Canarado" as an alternative name for Asia-Pacific markets from the article. There does not appear to be evidence of this name, except for websites based on the actual en.wiki article and for parts websites offering Estima/Previa/Tarago/Canarado parts. For example, there are no images, news, reviews, used car listings, etc of this car available online. This appears to be a long-standing hoax added on 13 January 2013 by Special:Contributions/27.252.142.139: [3] and [4]. OSX (talkcontributions) 01:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aggro

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Ford Europe's third generation Galaxy, launched in 2006, was also aggressively priced

That has too much testosterone for ease of comprehension. Priced low, or priced high? -- Hoary (talk) 00:10, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Estima in the Caribbean

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There is a number of Toyota Estima sold in the caribbean and these are late gen 2013-15. It is not very common but is observed to be an attractive vehicle. There is an issue of acquiring replacment part at reasonable cost which hinders vehicle sale (Chenrycheif (talk) 13:44, 5 April 2019 (UTC)).[reply]

They are probably grey market imports - which means that Toyota doesn't officially support them in your country. This is common to all grey market imports anywhere in the world.  Stepho  talk  22:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]