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Arborlon was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 October 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Shannara. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Headings

I think it might look better and be easier to read if there are headings for each of the series, agree? Padishar 23:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I think it would also allow us to add some additional depth to each series on this page, i.e. a brief plot introduction, instead of just saying what characters are involved. Sraan 01:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The criticism documentation of the sword of shannara does not belong under the section heading of the first trilogy it is well documented and appropriate on the sword of shannara page. Thus that single line of criticism documentation has been removed from this section.

Conflicting Claims

According to the article the books are chronologically set in the following order:

Year 0: The First King of Shannara - same time as The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara Trilogy

Year 500: The Original Shannara Trilogy

Year 800: The Heritage of Shannara Tetralogy

Year 950: The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara Trilogy

As you can see The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara Trilogy appears both in year 0 (year numbers are made up for this post) and year 950. So which is it? Same time as the First King of Shannara or approximately 950 years after the First King of Shannara? --John Lynch 08:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The prequel The First King of Shannara is set during the lifetime of Jerle Shannara

This is what you're referring to, I assume. Jerle Shannara is the "First King" himself. The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara Trilogy refers in its title to the airship named after the king. --EvilFred 00:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Order of Series

The listing of series is pretty much in chronological order of publication, except the Word/Void trilogy is listed second-to-last. It actually came out after First King and before the Voyage trilogy. Wouldn't it be better to place it there? I can't think of a good justification for having it where it is. I imagine it was there because it was unsure if it was Shannara's world, and then it stayed there when the Genesis series was added at the end, but it seems as if it's justification for being listed last is no longer relevant. Parableman 04:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

Is there any information out there on how the word is pronounced? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.63.19.210 (talk) 22:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on his talk page. the_ed 17 15:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although most fans pronounce Shannara /ʃəˈnɑːrə/, Terry Brooks (the author of the series) pronounces it /ˈʃænərə/ (with the stress on the first syllable, which has the same vowel as 'cat'), as evidenced in this interview, near 08:22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztu3Xj3UuMo&feature=youtu.be&t=8m22s. However, he has publicly stated (for example, about 1/3 of the way down the page here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/1a3261/i_am_terry_brooks_author_of_the_shannara_series) that he doesn't really care how people pronounce the names in his books. I went ahead and added the correct pronunciation to the article. Andrew John Bayles (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The 2016 TV series seems to opt for /ʃəˈnɑːrə/. Given that it's canon, should the pronunciation here be changed or the variant added? Tbfhhvuv (talk) 22:26, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shannara family section

Do we really need a seperate section here, seems like we could merge it with the list of novels section, maybe a small paragraph about the family is warranted but do we need to outline how the family is involved or not in each book? Especially when we would do that anyway in a good book summary section. Nowimnthing (talk) 20:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since I hear no objections I will merge, please converse here before doing blanket reverts. Nowimnthing (talk) 13:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have/had no objections; therefore, there should be no blanket reverts. =) Sorry for forgetting to leave a message back. the_ed 17 22:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Jerle Shannara? Why isn't this explained in the Character section? The link associated with his name is BS. It simply reverts back to the top of the section. Explaining who he is would seem intrinsic to this article. Gil gosseyn (talk) 05:07, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

High/Low Fantasy?

The article claims this is High Fantasy, yet Shannara actually exists on a post-apocalyptic Earth. Going on what the Low Fantasy article states, this would classify as Low Fantasy. "Low fantasy can be described as non-rational events occurring in a rational setting." Ben Mabbott (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think so. First, epic fantasy = high fantasy, and Terry Brooks' site describes them as the former. However, I think that the three Word & Void novels might be low fantasy... —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shannara certainly does not fit the definition given in High fantasy: "High fantasy is defined as fantasy set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than "the real", or "primary" world."

The article on High fantasy you refer to gives what I believe is pretty much a standard definition in the very first line: "HF is (...) defined either by its setting in an imaginary world or by the epic stature of its characters, themes, and plot." I would say Shannara definitely qualifies as the latter. dllu (talk) 12:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The author's website is not a reliable source. It is easy to see how easy it could be abused if it were, so we need some other source than this.-217.248.3.146 (talk) 21:13, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chronological section is missing short stories, The Dark Wraith of Shannara graphic novel

As the subject states, the chronological listing of the novels is missing the short stories and the graphic novel. Of course, once they are added, the name of the section might need to be changed from "Chronological List of Novels" to show that it includes those missing items.

Paladins of Shannara 01 - Allanon's Quest is an e-book short story set directly before The Sword of Shannara.

Paladins of Shannara 03 - The Black Irix is an e-book short story set soon after The Sword of Shannara.

Paladins of Shannara 02 - The Weapons Master's Choice is an e-book short story set sometime before The Wishsong of Shannara.

Indomitable is a short story published in the anthology Legends II, set a few years after The Wishsong of Shannara.

The Dark Wraith of Shannara is a Graphic Novel that shows part of the events of Indomitable, along with a continuation of the story.

There are two other short stories, according to the main Terry Brooks article:

Walker and the Shade of Allanon (Spring 2013) (short story published in Unfettered: New Tales by Masters of Fantasy - This short excerpt is more of a deleted scene than a short story, and takes place during chapter eight of The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara 01: The Ilse Witch.

Imaginary Friends (1991 & Spring 2013) (Word/Void short story published in anthology Once Upon a Time: A Treasury of Modern Fairy Tales, re-published in Unfettered: New Tales by Masters of Fantasy.- Hmm, having JUST NOW read this story, I'd say it shouldn't be included in the chronological listing. It's not a Word/Void story per se, but rather a short juvenile adventure story that shares elements from the later Word/Void works. Terry Brooks described it as a prototype to the Word/Void trilogy. 24.253.192.189 (talk) 22:41, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you are able to add a verifiable reliable source citation, then please just go ahead and add it. After all, anyone can edit Wikipedia. N2e (talk) 04:04, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dysfunctional links

Links on the page to The Four Lands and The Great Wars go to this article itself, which has minimal information on The Four Lands (and the link goes to the top of the Shannara article rather than to the section on the Setting) and even less about The Great Wars - with the GW link redirecting again to the top of the Shannara article rather than anywhere useful. Perhaps someone versed in Wikipedia policy could untangle these? Rmsgrey (talk) 14:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I second this motion. ZFT (talk) 04:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree as well. I think the Wiki process is that someone nominates these dead redirect articles via WP:RfD for deletion.

Based on o ur agreement here, that would seem to be three of us who would think these formerly useful but now unuseful links should be terminated. Cheers. N2e (talk) 22:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone familiar with these books care to add them to this list?

Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy series (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 01:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Changed mention of Eventine fighting the demons in "Wishsong" to "Elfstones"170.224.48.7 (talk) 22:17, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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