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Is it my imagination, or does this article bear a striking resemblance to Sam Neill's IMDb bio? --Paul A 04:30 Mar 25, 2003 (UTC)

unencyclopedic

where he acquired his nickname 'Sam'. Apparently there were too many Nigels at the school, and he felt that people tended to like people called Sam more than they liked people called Nigel.

fairly unencyclopedic, at the very least it would need a source. clarkk 10:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I posted below about a source for Sam Neill. Per that source, Sam Neill verified the facts of her site. In it, Sam Neill does mention that he switched to nickname of Sam for a variety of reasons - namely that Nigel was a source of ridicule.

Controversy

"This controversy is minor if any as the group exciting the controversy was revealed to be attention seekers and had no moral objections to the advertisement [SIC]."

No mention of who the said group actually are. Labelling the unnamed group as 'attention seekers' does not seem very objective at all, especially when the author is unable to publish the name of the group.

I changed the voice over for the bank from controversial to trivia. It hardly seems controversial to do voice overs for a bank unless there is a known controversy with said bank. I followed the link and found no such controversy. Regards.

Having done more research, I found a great soruce for trivia. Unfortunately, I'm just too dim-witted to do a reference http://www.ibiblio.org/samneill/snfaq.html.

The reference's methodology: Although the contents of this FAQ have been verified as accurate by Mr. Neill, the information in the FAQ was compiled and written by Erika Grams. In other words, this FAQ should in no way be construed as an official statement from Mr. Neill.

How is it controversial at all? I see no conflict of interest and the section itself doesn't contain any information at all on why it is controversial... it just seems to be FUD and so long as there are no objections, I'll soon remove it. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 09:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Best Known"

How does the "best known for" statement fit into the NPOV idea? Unless there's survey data, this doesn't strike me as an appropriate statement for an encyclopedic article on an actor who has several other highly recognizable roles. Also, the made-for-TV Hallmark production Merlin is missing from the TV/filmography section. I don't know which heading it would go under to add it. SkepticalGal 05:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Films"

Why does it say he was in The Lord of the Rings (2001)?!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.51.103.106 (talk) 13:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Sam Neill was in the movie "In Cold Blood" (1996), directed by Jonathan Kaplan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Random12345678910 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo weaving played Lord Elrond. I love Sam Neil but he no elf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.207.131 (talk) 03:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Submerged is not listed in his Television work. He was in a TV movie titled Submerged(2001) as Lt. Cmdr. Charles B. 'Swede' Momsen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.222.69 (talk) 02:33, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Stutter"

Im surprised that no-one had bothered inserting information about Sam's stutter. For any stutterer (such as myself), Sam is an inspiration. Not only did he overcome most of his stutter but he went on to become a successful actor. I've just added this small section under his personal life as i believe its a significant triumph of this terrible disorder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.12.95 (talk) 07:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

bad photo

The photo shows only a quite useless profile without any eyes. This person could be anyone and this bad photo is not improving the article, it worsens it. --93.135.122.22 (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doubts

"Neil resides in Sydney, Australia". Is this correct? Neil is a local authority councillor in Otago, New Zealand, a position he would not be entitled to hold if he resided in a different country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.104.178.4 (talk) 11:21, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thorn Birds?

Floating around in the Youtube universe tonight I came upon a screen capture image of a scene from the Tv miniseries "The Thorn Birds". I have no recollection of him in the movie, but nonetheless, there he was...(a younger)...Sam Neill. I'm quie certain. Yet no mention of the appearance in this artcle. How come? Perhaps someone could collaborate this evidence? The film centered around a sheep station in Australia, so it would have been a perfect cast for Sam.

Omagh?

"Inside the Living Daylights" vid claims he was BORN in NZ, fwiw. just bad info? 173.9.95.217 (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He has said he was born in Northern Ireland in a recent interview. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Concussion?

I dont recall seeing him in Concussion at all. I know if I did. I checked IMDB and he's not credited. This should be taken off his screen credits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.32.102.228 (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Noriko Watanabe

I've removed the link to the article about Noriko Watanabe. According to IMDB, there are two women by this name in the film industry: an actress and a make-up artist. Sam Neill married the make-up artist, according to this article. Also, if anyone finds a reliable source that gives a year for when Watanabe and Neil separated or divorced, please add details to the article and infobox. Thanks. Meticulo (talk) 09:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Harrow

An anon recently added to the article "From 1978 to 1989, Neill was married to actress Lisa Harrow Impossible. They never met each other until they began working together on Omen III: The Final Conflict in 1981" (anon's addition in bold). This is supported by (for example) In 1980, I was playing the journalist, Kate Reynolds, on the horror film Omen III: The Final Conflict. Being in the film introduced me to Sam [Neill, who gave me my beloved son, Tim]. I have been unable to find a source for the earlier start of their relationship, other than sources which might have been influenced by this Wikipedia article. Indeed, I haven't seen a reliable source which says they were legally married.

Prior to 5 September 2015, this article mentioned their son but not marriage, and the infobox listed "spouse = Lisa Harrow (19?? – c. 1989); 1 child
Noriko Watanabe (2 September 1989 – present); 1 child". On that date, an anon who has made no other edits changed the question marks so the first year read 1998, an obviously incorrect year. The edit summary was "Awesomely". Later that day, @AlexBogue89: changed the year to 1978, which is more plausible, but I don't know if this was based on some information not cited or an attempt to correct an obvious error. Since then, the infobox line has had mention of a divorce in 1989 added. I haven't found any reliable source for this divorce.

The article on Lisa Harrow similarly used question marks in the infobox, until a change to "1978" by an anon in January 2015.

Are there sources for the marriage of these two people, or sources indicating when they began their relationship? If none can be found, I suggest we revert to the earlier version with the question marks, and adjust the "personal life" section similarly.-gadfium 20:24, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've trimmed the dates to say "c. 1980" and removed the mention of marriage.-gadfium 18:56, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TV portrayals

I do recall he portrayed Ian Fleming the James Bond creator in a one night TV drama from his wartime intelligence service in WWII to Fleming's death, portrayedly after a heart attack. However it was so long ago (I place the timing between 1989 when Charles Dance portrayed Fleming in an earler tv drama and one of the 'Jurassic Park' films) that I forgot the title, but it would be worth looking up. I see no mention of Sam Neill in the Ian Fleming wiki article in the section 'Biographical films'.Cloptonson (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Filmography suggested addition

I noticed that Ivanhoe (1983) is not listed among his film credits. However, if you go to the IMDb page or Wikipedia page for the film, he is credited as playing Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert. I don't have an account, so I can't make the edit, but I thought I'd mention it in case someone else wants to. 70.16.100.139 (talk) 02:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's listed under Sam Neill § Television since it's a made-for-TV movie. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Re my additions to the article on Sam Neill and the policy on living persons,, the Policy page on “Biographies of Living People” says that material “challenged or likely to be challenged” shall be supported by neutral sources; but it does not say that quoting from memoirs is forbidden! Re Sam Neill his memoir would enable me to add that he attended Cashmere and Medbury (primary) schools (4 years?) before attending Christs’ College (secondary school), and also why he transferred from Christchurch to Wellington to complete his BA!. I suppose that I better not say that he did not enjoy his time at Medbury in case it was challenged, although reporting a personal reaction could be regarded as a fact not an opinion. Hugo999 (talk) 05:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should not need his memoir to support where he attended school; if you need help finding reliable sources that are independent of the subject, just ask here for assistance and experienced researchers can help. You should not add whether or not he enjoyed a certain school, because that is schoolboy-age trivia and not encyclopedically noteworthy, especially if the source is his memoir. Softlavender (talk) 05:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His autobiography can have WP:ABOUTSELF use. IMO additions like "In 1964 when the Beatles toured Australia and New Zealand (see The Beatles' 1964 world tour), boarders at the school were forbidden by some miserable old bastard from going." from it fails WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]