Talk:Racial segregation in Canada

Copied content from Racial segregation

Right now the draft is just attributed copied content from racial segregation but I want to eventually make it much more detailed about everything. There's way more than a few random sentences and there should be a much better overview of the overall topic. But I wanted somewhere to start at least to work from... so that's why the draft is kind of all over the place. I doubt anyone cares, but I like outlining my thought process. Clovermoss (talk) 02:58, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

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@Bilorv: For when you have the time to take a look at the draft (again, no rush!), I figured it'd be helpful if you were aware of some background information.

• Racial segregation in Canada is a blue link but it is currently a redirect to Racial segregation. I added content about the Indian hospitals there a few months ago. My idea was that there is likely enough out there for this to be its own seperate article (like Racial segregation in the United States). I was honestly surprised an article didn't already exist.
• Some content in this draft is copied with attribution from other articles.
• I'm not sure how I should go about this organization-wise so that's why I started with the federal/provincial/territory distinctions. Maybe something else would work better.
• I'm thinking trying to find sources like the sfn would likely be the best for actually covering something like this in detail with historical context.

Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, Clovermoss. I couldn't even commit to putting this on my longlist of things to work on, I'm afraid, but I'm happy to give feedback.

Articles of this nature are often quite poor-quality and it's easy to create what will become a laundry list of news-related controversies about racism in Canada (through lots of editors adding one example at a time). The "Medical segregation" is good as it's about a general historical phenomenon and undoubtedly a type of segregation. Once the Canadian Encyclopedia quote is rewritten in our own words (it's an encyclopedia article so not necessary to preserve verbatim wording) it'll be the strongest part of the article.

Other content really needs to use the word "segregation" and have sources that make the connection clear. The Chinese head tax and Exclusion Act (while morally contemptible) are about discouraging immigration—is segregation not limited to restrictions of people living in Canada? Even the Inuit identification disc numbers need clearer linking to segregation: what were the disc numbers used for in practice?

As you highlight, I would look to sources like Colour-Coded: A Legal History of Racism in Canada, or books or journal articles, rather than news pieces wherever possible, but it's essential that the sources use the word "segregation" (or similar key words). Copying content within Wikipedia (with proper attribution) can be a good base to work from, but the content needs adaptation so it's crystal clear why it fits in this draft. Residential segregation in Greater Vancouver and Canadian Indian residential school system look like the strongest "See also" links to get more content from, but after copying and pasting you need further research and selectiveness in what is a description of segregation. — Bilorv (talk) 23:09, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the input Bilorv. Some of your advice is actually part of what I was thinking I should do but I was uncertain if that was actually the right course of action. What I'm trying to say is that your advice is more helpful than you might think :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Clovermoss, I'm glad to hear it! — Bilorv (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)