Talk:Oh, Pretty Woman
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The opening iconic guitar lick is Harold Bradley playing a Stromberg guitar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:483:5580:D0E0:6906:382F:96F0:84BD (talk) 03:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]What an amazing experience. I saw this article in Recent Changes and cruised over to check it out because I used to be in a band that did this song. The article was kind of skimpy, so I did a Google search to see if I could add anything. I was stunned to find that the song had been the subject of a Supreme Court decision greatly expanding the fair use doctrine, with all kinds of tantalizing side issues. So, the moral of this story is, always look it up first, even if you think you are just writing a courtesy stub. Ortolan88
From what I understand, it is not fair use to reprint lyrics in their entirety. Kingturtle 03:42 17 May 2003 (UTC)
- This is a quote from the Supreme Court case, case law is considered to be in the public domain, considering the legal importance of the case, the comparison of the lyrics of the song should be studied. I've added notices to make it clear that there is a claim to it being fair use as it is central to understanding a very important contemporary issue in an evolving area of copyright law. Perhaps we should wait until one of these copyright holders contact the designated agent of Wikipedia and then convince his lawyers not to remove it because it may be fair use and then let them sue to create new case law on fair use. OCILLA does give the ISP 10 days after an infringement claim is made to determine if there is infringement, during that period ISP is sheltered from being sued. If this happens (I doubt it) it should get lots of publicity for Wikipedia. No? (...also for the songs, probably even sell a few records...) — Alex756 04:23 17 May 2003 (UTC)
So. Pretty Woman or Oh, Pretty Woman? -- Zoe
- Maybe Pretty Woman as there are two works discussed on this page that are called Pretty Woman (the film (or is it movie) and the song). Alex756
- The song's title is "Oh, Pretty Woman". It is no more correct to call it "Pretty Woman" than it is to suggest that "American Pie" is titled "Pie". Bonalaw 12:27, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Not really. When the Roy Orbison 45 was first released in 1964, the title of the song on the label was indeed "Pretty Woman." At some point during its initial chart run, the song title was changed to "Oh, Pretty Woman"; I suspect it was done to prevent confusion with an older Tin Pan Alley song called "Pretty Woman." I can document the original title with a scan of an original 45 rpm label if necessary. Strangely, the same thing happened when Van Halen did its remake of the song. Its original 45s called the song "Pretty Woman," as did the original picture sleeves. This time, though, rather than use the title "Oh, Pretty Woman" when the revised labels and sleeves were issued, the title used was "(Oh) Pretty Woman" -- with the "Oh" in parentheses. Again, I can document this with the record and/or picture sleeve. Cheemo 04:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- So is that the original cover in the article, because there is no Oh in that cover? It's seems rather odd to me that the name of the article is with Oh and cover is not. 85.217.20.77 (talk) 01:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- Not really. When the Roy Orbison 45 was first released in 1964, the title of the song on the label was indeed "Pretty Woman." At some point during its initial chart run, the song title was changed to "Oh, Pretty Woman"; I suspect it was done to prevent confusion with an older Tin Pan Alley song called "Pretty Woman." I can document the original title with a scan of an original 45 rpm label if necessary. Strangely, the same thing happened when Van Halen did its remake of the song. Its original 45s called the song "Pretty Woman," as did the original picture sleeves. This time, though, rather than use the title "Oh, Pretty Woman" when the revised labels and sleeves were issued, the title used was "(Oh) Pretty Woman" -- with the "Oh" in parentheses. Again, I can document this with the record and/or picture sleeve. Cheemo 04:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- The song's title is "Oh, Pretty Woman". It is no more correct to call it "Pretty Woman" than it is to suggest that "American Pie" is titled "Pie". Bonalaw 12:27, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I am not sure if this is the correct place to place this but Bob Moore long time Nashville upright and electric bassist is listed as as being the bassist on this record as well as many other Roy Orbison records, he was also a partner in Monument records while this was recorded. I do not wish to add anything to the article myself as it seems unduly complicated but this is something the writer may want to look into. This is just one example: https://kxrb.com/story-behind-the-song-oh-pretty-woman-by-roy-orbison/
Albert King Song?
[edit]I just wondered whether anyone knew enough about the other song Oh, Pretty WOman, recorded by Albert King on a Stax Records release, and also by Gary Moore on his album Still Got the Blues, to be able to add it to this page? It is an entirely different song, but I believe worth mentioning. I believe the lyricist is named AC Williams, but cannot be certain. Holypeanut 22:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The song was written by AC Williams but I haven't been able to uncover more details. It is a wonderful song and I wonder if it was inspired by the Orbison version. [James Almond 13 Nov 2006]
Does somebody have a reference for the coment of the beatles cover in the White album [Daniel 1 Feb 2006]
Sexual predator?
[edit]Why, exactly, does it state that the narrator of the song is a sexual predator? I see no reason to believe that this is true, so I am editing it to say "man" instead. If anyone feels differently, feel free to revert the change; however, please state your reasons for doing so here. Z? (talk) 04:32, 10 September 2008 (
HAL BLAINE
Hal Blaine plays the drums?
80's version
[edit]Why no information about Roy Orbison's own cover of this song he did in 80s? (not live version)
"Oh"
[edit]Some versions of the original Monument single had the title "Pretty Woman".[1] However, later versions had the title "Oh, Pretty Woman".[2] - see also [3] Most overseas releases, such as this UK release, give it the title "Oh, Pretty Woman".[4] Compilations of chart placings, such as those by Joel Whitburn, give it the title "Oh, Pretty Woman".[5] Roy Orbison's official website gives it the title "Oh, Pretty Woman".[6] BMI says "Oh Pretty Woman (Legal Title)". [7] - BMI Work #1103512. Secondary sources like this article - [8]- give it the title "Oh Pretty Woman". So, I hope the IP who keeps trying to remove the word "Oh" will now stop doing so. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.discogs.com/Roy-Orbison-And-The-Candy-Men-Pretty-Woman-Yo-Te-Amo-Maria/release/5462662
- ^ https://www.discogs.com/Roy-Orbison-And-The-Candy-Men-Oh-Pretty-Woman/release/2122052
- ^ http://www.45cat.com/record/45851
- ^ https://www.discogs.com/Roy-Orbison-Oh-Pretty-Woman-Yo-Te-Amo-Maria/release/5372236
- ^ Whitburn, Joel (2003). Top Pop Singles 1955-2002 (1st ed.). Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin: Record Research Inc. p. 525. ISBN 0-89820-155-1.
- ^ http://www.royorbison.com/opwfactsheet
- ^ http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=1103512&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID
- ^ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopmusic/11063578/Roy-Orbison-50-years-of-Oh-Pretty-Woman.html
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Release date
[edit]Once again, someone has used the date of the Billboard issue in which the single made it to the Hot 100 as the release date of the song, in this case August 29. It was reviewed in the August 15 issue, so it must have been released before that. Since there doesn't seem to be any source giving a specific date of the actual record release, I'm going to change it to just August. I'm also skeptical about the supposed August 1 recording date. PatConolly (talk) 07:22, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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