Talk:Michael J. Freeman

Opening discussion

I hope that the COI editors can find their way here as they appear eager to learn the correct way to edit with a conflict of interest and as far as I know the Talk Page is where they belong. I have not begun much article clean-up yet because I am hoping for some discussion here.TeeVeeed (talk) 13:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

teeVeeeed, I have no COI but have followed freeman for years because I was in the toy business. FYI see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecpub7_y7o4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.101.142.227 (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I've restored to the stub. There is multiple problems with the spam that you restored. It's spam. The text originally posted by a paid (declared on their user page) is promotional and supplied by the subjects family. OP is not competent enough in their second language to write like that. It is not supported by the sources provided. Look at the "Talk 'n Play" section. First sentence "In 1984, he created Talk 'n Play (also called Electronic Talk'n Play)." claimed to be supported by a wordpress blog (not a reliable source) that does not even mention Freeman. The second cite states "Our promoted brands group was again led by Kenner, in part due to the continued enthusiasm for its Littlest Pet Shop(R) and Jurassic Park(TM) items, while Hasbro Toy, after a difficult period during the year, began to see an up-turn in several of its products, including Tonka's Talk 'N Play Fire Truck(TM) and The Real Power Tool Shop(TM). " does not really verify the claims from the Wikipedia article. The rest is unsourced despite containing a quote which always requires attribution that is not here. Please don't rerestore such poorly sourced material that is the preferred text of a paying client of someone blatantly ignoring Wikipedia's 5 pillars.. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

You are 100% wrong about freeman. He invented Electronic Talk'N Play. I know for a fact. One should do some research before making such aspersions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.216.197.78 (talk) 20:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining the problemsUser:Duffbeerforme. Dang I thought that I checked every ref. but I did not examine the text close enough. I think we can very carefully unstub some of the content and sources thanks to your closer evaluations? The Larry King youtube clip is kind of weird? It offers nothing but an ostensibly, (speeded-up audio?) very very young Larry King repeating the name "Michael Freeman" is a genius and zero context. I'm not comfortable with that particular clip being used as a source here and do not think the article needs it but if there is something more "beefy" or robust like an official transcript or audio interview with more than repeated partial introductions strung together with a photo of Larry King by an unknown youtube user, that would be better. TeeVeeed (talk) 00:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Also, User:Duffbeerforme so I think that wordpress blog source is okay? The unattributed quote must go. The Hasbro mention hmm well it was not the same toy really so that could go. I'm not seeing a language problem there in the most recent unstubbied version. I'm going to clean that up and unstub.TeeVeeed (talk) 11:25, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

refs moved to this Talk Page from my talk page

(left on my talk page by Preceding unsigned comment added by IP) (copied)NY Times: Freeman owns the most expensive dollhouse in the world:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/arts/design/dollhouse-appraised-at-8-5-million-is-to-tour.html?_r=0

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2015-11-11/astolat-dollhouse-castle-photos-worlds-most-expensive

New York Magazine..Inventor of Leachim, 2-XL, and more etc. https://books.google.com/books?id=bNECAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA40&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

2XL website; http://2xlrobot.com/

freeman on CNN fn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJ1Sx0T8DI&t=13s

Kiplingers Magazine https://books.google.com/books?id=Rf4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA76&source=gbs_toc_r&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

   MISC. http://mentalfloss.com/article/87066/remembering-first-smart-toy-2-xl 

freeman patents; http://patents.justia.com/inventor/michael-j-freeman

general info http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=1689987

http://www.megomuseum.com/catalog/1980e/2xl.shtml — TeeVeeed (talk) 11:04, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

So this "dollhouse" stuff. ? First of all there is a WP article on the dollhouse, and it is kind of a mess. Really first is that I have not been able to confirm that it is the same Michael Freeman. His wife in the dollhouse mentions/articles is "Lois". His wife when he invented a talking educational computer is "Gail". We have to be careful here because there are many Michael Freemans and even a bishop with middle initial "J" whose books have even been attributed to this Michael J. TeeVeeed (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

message templates can now be removed

Fix up done and checked. Drycroft4 (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Checked and done. Also fixing new section here.TeeVeeed (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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