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[edit]Better organisation: Split tropical cyclone from waterspout (and any other usage of the word in this context). Content for the TC section should mention that a TC can bring its peak winds overland without actually making landfall, and give an example storm.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ioke would be a good example of that, wouldn't it? Titoxd(?!?) 07:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Requested move 14 May 2015
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Landfall (meteorology) → Landfall – I think this is clearly the primary topic, as can be readily confirmed with hit counts. – Juliancolton | Talk 22:47, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Is this the one with the song by Adele? I'm not convinced that this title does so well without the topic clarification. GregKaye 23:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- What song? I'm not sure I follow. "Landfall" is quite a standard term in meteorology and disaster management circles, and indeed amongst the general public... at least in North America. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Skyfall. An American based encyclopaedia presents articles such as climate | meteorology | Encyclopedia Britannica. GregKaye 04:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- I really don't understand now. Could you please take it from the top...? – Juliancolton | Talk 16:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Given that there are several other uses of landfall and that, arguably, the word used is not intuitively descriptive of the phenomena, I am not convinced that the removal of the parenthesis is helpful and am yet to see reasoning for this being advantageous. Someone might easily see "landfall" and make an association with, for instance, Rockfall or as a measurement in a phenomena such as Subsidence. GregKaye 06:48, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- ...yes, but the entirety of my argument is that this is the primary topic, superseding the other instances (all of which are extremely obscure); this is allowable by the Wikipedia:DAB guideline. If somebody incorrectly associates "landfall" with something completely different, that's none of my concern. The vast, vast majority of educated persons will know "landfall" to be a meteorological concept, and not a similar-ish sounding song title or unassociated geological phenomenon. Near as I can tell, the first ten+ pages of Google Scholar hits for "landfall" are all about tropical cyclones, not landslides and certainly not Adele. Your concerns are unfounded I'm afraid. – Juliancolton | Talk 13:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- M-185 is also a primary topic superseding all other uses of "M-185" but we still used M-185 (Michigan highway) because the meaning would otherwise be unclear. GregKaye 16:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- But, there's also M-94 and M-94 (Michigan highway). Also, be aware there's no other M-185 except the highway.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 17:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- It's a good job that most article titles are also accompanied by article text, so that the hopelessly confounded reader can educate themselves as to their true meanings. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:45, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- The origin of the meteorological term is from the nautical term... arriving at land from a ship on water -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- M-185 is also a primary topic superseding all other uses of "M-185" but we still used M-185 (Michigan highway) because the meaning would otherwise be unclear. GregKaye 16:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- ...yes, but the entirety of my argument is that this is the primary topic, superseding the other instances (all of which are extremely obscure); this is allowable by the Wikipedia:DAB guideline. If somebody incorrectly associates "landfall" with something completely different, that's none of my concern. The vast, vast majority of educated persons will know "landfall" to be a meteorological concept, and not a similar-ish sounding song title or unassociated geological phenomenon. Near as I can tell, the first ten+ pages of Google Scholar hits for "landfall" are all about tropical cyclones, not landslides and certainly not Adele. Your concerns are unfounded I'm afraid. – Juliancolton | Talk 13:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- Given that there are several other uses of landfall and that, arguably, the word used is not intuitively descriptive of the phenomena, I am not convinced that the removal of the parenthesis is helpful and am yet to see reasoning for this being advantageous. Someone might easily see "landfall" and make an association with, for instance, Rockfall or as a measurement in a phenomena such as Subsidence. GregKaye 06:48, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- I really don't understand now. Could you please take it from the top...? – Juliancolton | Talk 16:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Skyfall. An American based encyclopaedia presents articles such as climate | meteorology | Encyclopedia Britannica. GregKaye 04:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The meteorological term is the primary topic. Calidum T|C 23:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment the nautical term (getting from ship on water to land) is also prominent, as is the science fiction term for landing from space -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Are you going to merge the disambiguation page into a hatnote onto this article? -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:04, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support. This satisfies the greater enduring notability and educational value part of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Zarcadia (talk) 16:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Page Landfall is currently a disambig with 10 choices. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Consideration for Start-class
[edit]This page looks more like a Start-class article to me. It doesn't have a lot of content, and few pictures. Hdjensofjfnen (If you want to trout me, go ahead!) 18:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC)