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"From Catalonia"

I know there's been some drama about this, especially with a certain sockpuppet who shall not be named, but is there consensus on whether to leave "from Catalonia" in the article? It seems unnecessary since the article already mentions that he's from Barcelona, and the edit that put the phrase in there is from the aforementioned sockpuppet. Ice Cream Sandwich 7 (talk) 04:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The real debate is more of identity than geographical location. The accepted consensus of a 2018 RfC asks for sources identifying the subject as Catalan, for the generally accepted phrasing "Spanish from Catalonia" to be included. A quick search brings up The Guardian (a Catalan teenager), La Monde (the young Catalan), ESPN Aus (This Catalan kid). IDK if he played for the Catalonia youth teams, there's been something of a hiatus, but he promoted them earlier this year. It's up to users to assess if those RS mentions and any secondary information make the identity clear. Kingsif (talk) 05:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This nonsense. Xavi, Busquets, Piqué etc. are all from Catalonia, and no one has it mentioned in the first sentence. Why should we make an exception for Yamal? Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 15:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Different descriptions is not "making an exception", and this discussion will be more productive if you come in with an open mind. It is something we can (and do) do, if there are sources. I don't know if the larger discussions at WP:FOOTY and WP:CATALONIA are still ongoing, but besides reflecting sources, this article has the extra dimension of a sock edit-warring over it. Kingsif (talk) 16:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point, but in my opinion this will be a pointless discussion, because in the end "from Catalonia" will be removed, it's only a matter of time. There isn't a particular reason that differentiate Yamal from similar situation. Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 06:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even if there isn't a reason for Yamal to be different to the others, does not mean it will be removed... when we have a pre-existing consensus that this phrasing can be (but is not forced to be) included, there isn't any precedent, and similar cases including it or not is simply whether someone has decided to add it. So, like, you're not presenting a valid argument for removal – in a case when even just "sock did it" would be a valid argument. Kingsif (talk) 10:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to refer to Lamine Yamal throughout the article

The article was recently changed to use just "Lamine" to refer to him throughout; convention is to use primary surname, unless there's a common name reason not to. I think we can agree that it would be a bit whiplash to refer to him as "Nasraoui", but then the common name seems to be "Lamine Yamal" together, which doesn't read that well. Are there sources where he is referred to just as "Lamine" or "Yamal", so this can be settled? Kingsif (talk) 05:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the style for Cristiano Ronaldo? That seems to be the most obvious comparison. Crowsus (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It uses Ronaldo Kingsif (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go with Yamal then, people probably think that's his surname anyway so it would not look out of place to use it. [edit] I don't disagree with using what sources say, but there will be many sources referring to "Cristiano Ronaldo", "Cristiano" or "CR7" but at some point Wikipedia has decided on "Ronaldo" so just for the sake of consistency with the double-forename situation it might be good to do likewise. Trying to think of others... "Roberto Carlos" is displayed like that throughout his article but I think it looks a bit awkward typed out again and again (it is used 71 times in the prose), and I would say Brazilian nicknames are a bit more 'official' than European ones (nobody is calling the left-back Carlos), but that's maybe just my perception. Personally my vote would be for "Yamal". Crowsus (talk) 15:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd default to "Yamal", too, I'll update the article - this thread is here for future discussion Kingsif (talk) 21:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lamine Yamal's height

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His height is now 1.80 m as stated on the official La Liga site. https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/player/lamine-yamal 82.78.75.90 (talk) 09:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Isochrone (talk) 13:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]