Talk:John Wayne Glover
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Direct copy and paste
[edit]It looks as though this article before I started working on it was a direct copy and past fro this website. It still needs more work done to it. [email protected]. 07:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Images
[edit]I think it might be appropriate to take photos of the scenes of the crimes. I think an image of the Mosman RSL would be good, as this is where, John Wayne Glover spent his victims money after killing them. The book that I have also gives details on where the crimes happened as in street names and stuff like that. But it does not give details on the exact location. [email protected]. 05:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
NPOV
[edit]Well, isn't this a very fine read. I found myself enjoying the dark material, despite myself.
However, the intended audience is non-encyclopedic. The material is sensationalist.
Many citations are to www.thecrimeweb.com, but upon review, much of the material here is un-sourced and unfounded embellishment relative to the actual citation material.
This article reads like a cheap dime-store novella. Several paragraphs allege the criminal's frame of mind and several go into unnecessary detail of alleged personal observations or sensations, by either the murderer or the victim -- unknowable and without citations to even a single reliable para-normal resource. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.253.170 (talk) 00:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- All the information came from this book http://books.boomerangbooks.com/featuredbook1.asp?StoreURL=boomerang&bookid=0330362933 and has been slightly reworded so that it is not a direct copy and past. If any one wants to check they have to buy the book or stand in the shop and read for free. I only added the online references so you wouldn't have to do that. I haven't even read what's on these websites . [email protected]. (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifing up your sources, that explains the discrepancies, and the quality of the writing.
- But the amount of detail, even minutae and POV drawn from the book stands in contrast to the material and style seen in comparison to a handful of the other Australian serial killer articles.
- "She had a thin trickle of blood running out of her mouth."
- "He then bent over the body, trying not to look at her face"
67.165.253.170 (talk) 02:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Recent reverting
[edit][From Adam JWC talk page] Mind explaining why you're reverting the changes made to this article? They seemed fine to me. --Closedmouth (talk) 06:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- There seems to be a lot of deductions. [email protected]. (talk) 06:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Have you read the article? It's full of POV claims, OR, and strange things like "When she was on the ground he felt a great sensation of extraordinary power and great control, it made him feel invincible." These edits are a great improvement. Please reconsider. --Closedmouth (talk) 06:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Thats how it was written in the book but reworded not to be a direct copy. Chang it back but I will be adding certing things to it later possibly pictures of the scenes of crimes that were committed. Surely some content can remain that was deleted. [email protected]. (talk) 06:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Adam, the edits that you reverted were improvements. The items removed were not proper writing for an encyclopedia. Yes, that book you used to write essentially all of the article is fine as a reliable source of information, but that doesn't mean have to include everything or its non-encyclopedia style of writing. I hope you understand it is a question of the difference between documentary (which can be very tabloidy) vs encyclopedia style (which has to dry, factual and non-emotive). I've tried improving this article's written style before and you have just reverted. There are also comments on its talk page to the same effect.
- I would also suggest that you don't do blind reverts (surely it wasn't all bad?) without edit summaries. Please be more circumspect about your editing. thanks --Merbabu (talk) 10:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
True, but instead of deleting huge chunks of text, it could be re written, some of what was deleted was what you reworded. I thought the removal of content was excessive, some of it could have stayed. [email protected]. (talk) 11:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Typo
[edit]Although not the best edit i have made to following change
Glover was put under constant police surveillance including at one stage, placing an automatic tracking device on Glover's. To make sure that he wasn't being followed, Glover would drive around the block more than once, or drive the wrong way up one way streets. has been changed to: Glover was put under constant police surveillance, at one stage, with an automatic tracking device. To make sure that he wasn't being followed, Glover would drive around the block more than once, or drive the wrong way up one way streets. Lp000021 (talk) 10:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
A mysterious letter?
[edit]Is is true that the police received an anonymous letter from a profiler? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:D553:E94B:B0AF:4C6F (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
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