Talk:Jezus Leeft
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![]() | On 28 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jesus Lives to Jezus Leeft. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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[edit]All of the sources talk about "Jezus Leeft" or "Jezus redt", none of them mentioning an English translation. I propose to move the article to the Dutch title "Jezus Leeft", giving the English translation between parentheses in the first sentence. --Randykitty (talk) 19:41, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- Randykitty, I agree, the article should be renamed. It seems that the party refers to itself as "Jezusleeft", (https://www.jezusleeft.nl) but is listed in the results for the recent European Elections as "JEZUS LEEFT". See https://www.verkiezingsuitslagen.nl/verkiezingen/detail/EP20190523 Vexations (talk) 20:21, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 28 November 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 20:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Jesus Lives → Jezus Leeft – Per the, admittedly, old discussion above.
Furthermore, almost all sources in this article, and those that I can see when searching for the party, and the party's own website, www
Would appreciate feedback,
Moshe Moshe1022 (talk) 20:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support Seems reasonable. Koopinator (talk) 17:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support, I can't help feeling that the current title should cover something else. BD2412 T 16:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose - that's because "Jeezus Leeft" is in a different language, Dutch, and has been translated into English "Jesus Lives". All political parties in the Netherlands have article titles which have been translated into English. You can find a whole list of the articles at "List of political parties in the Netherlands". This move would break that formatting/precedent. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:46, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
WP:UE. As mentioned in my argument, the sources in the article refers to it as "Jezus Leeft". The only English language source introduces it as 'Jezus Leeft', followed by a translation. Moshe1022 (talk) 20:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage
- Furthermore - since there is a lack of English sources about the article - WP:UE states that
. Moshe1022 (talk) 20:57, 30 November 2023 (UTC)If there are too few reliable English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject
- Furthermore - since there is a lack of English sources about the article - WP:UE states that
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support as far less ambiguous than the current title, which is also a generic Christian slogan in English (albeit an article for that slogan wouldn't have the second word capitalized). Plus, as others have mentioned, the sources present it translated. Bensci54 (talk) 18:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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