Talk:Jade-class aircraft carrier
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Reviewer: Ed! (talk • message • contribs • count • logs • email)
- It is reasonably well written:
- A little background on the two ships would help. What were they doing before they were selected, and how were they acquired?
- They were operating on Norddeutscher Lloyd's East Asia Service - added. As to how, Groner simply states that they were "taken over..." with no indication that there was any compensation to NDL. Parsecboy (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- Why were these two ships selected? It sounds like half of the characteristics of the ships derived from their pre-existing states, not how they were going to be modified.
- Groner doesn't say why - presumably because they were relatively large, sufficiently fast ships. Parsecboy (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- "This was due to the resignation of Admiral Erich Raeder, the commander in chief of the Kriegsmarine, the previous month." - why did this affect things? Was Raeder an outspoken proponent of the conversions or did someone else decide not to pursue them?
- Raeder resigned to protest Hitler's order that the entire German surface fleet be broken up after the Battle of the Barents Sea - added a line to this effect. Parsecboy (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- A little background on the two ships would help. What were they doing before they were selected, and how were they acquired?
- It is factually accurate and verifiable:
- Pass
- It is broad in its coverage:
- Pass
- It follows the neutral point of view policy:
- Pass
- It is stable:
- Pass
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:
- It seems that an article like this has a particularly strong need for images, given the unusual nature of the ships or what they were supposed to look like. Are there any diagrams or drawings at least?
- Nothing free use - there's a linedrawing in Groner that would probably fall under fair use. Parsecboy (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- Overall:
- Just have a few suggestions, once again trying to get a "bigger picture" view surrounding the project and how it came to be. Otherwise a great article. —Ed!(talk) 04:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's all clear enough now. Passing the GA. —Ed!(talk) 22:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- Just have a few suggestions, once again trying to get a "bigger picture" view surrounding the project and how it came to be. Otherwise a great article. —Ed!(talk) 04:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Ships' names
[edit]The conversion projects for these two ships were codenamed "Jade" and "Elbe", and the project to convert the cruiser Seydlitz was codenamed "Weser-1". The ships themselves were never renamed. --Cosal (talk) 22:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Evidence, please? As is apparently habit for you, you are making changes to articles without sources. Parsecboy (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- For instance: http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/gneisenau/index.html Gneisenau ==> Projekt Jade; http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/potsdam/index.html Potsdam ==> Projekt Elbe; http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/seydlitzcvl/history.html Seydlitz ==> Projekt Weser-1. Please provide evidence that these three ships were actually renamed as you claim (and not simply "Groener"; but edition, language, year of publication, page number.) Your habit, if I may return the compliment, seems to be to simply ignore and revert? --Cosal (talk) 22:44, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Again, you present only non-reliable websites as your evidence. And I don't need to provide the information you request, as it is already in the article. Parsecboy (talk) 23:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- For instance: http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/gneisenau/index.html Gneisenau ==> Projekt Jade; http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/potsdam/index.html Potsdam ==> Projekt Elbe; http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/seydlitzcvl/history.html Seydlitz ==> Projekt Weser-1. Please provide evidence that these three ships were actually renamed as you claim (and not simply "Groener"; but edition, language, year of publication, page number.) Your habit, if I may return the compliment, seems to be to simply ignore and revert? --Cosal (talk) 22:44, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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