Talk:Imine
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I don't think many people have really looked at either page that much since they've been written, so I'll just do it myself if I don't get any feedback about it in a week or so. Ghiles 08:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Opposed to merge: an imine is not an reaction and Alkylimino-de-oxo-bisubstitution is not a functional group, that should be obvious. Please recognize that wiki contains about 300 organic reactions and about 200 functional groups and that you can interconvert functional groups with the aid of the reactions. If you start merging things get messy. Please consult the rules on merging: this proposal hardly qualifies and I will remove the notices within 24 hours V8rik 17:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, My Ketone!
[edit](to the tune of "Oh, My Darling Clementine")
Oh, my ketone! Oh, my ketone! And my primary amine. You reacted, lost some water and You formed a new imine.
Now the lone pair on the N then Bonds with carbonyl C. Pi electrons go to O, a Proton shifts fast as can be.
Now the O is feeling greedy Grabs an H from OH3. Free electrons from the N then Form a pi bond, water leaves.
Now the N is protonated And a plus charge can be seen. So the water yanks the H off And we've formed a new imine.
Oh, my ketone! Oh, my ketone! And my primary amine. You reacted, lost some water and You formed a new imine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.155.203 (talk) 18:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am lost for words... V8rik (talk) 20:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Incorrect image
[edit]I don't know how to change pictures for articles but the picture in this article is most definitely NOT an imine. It's a trisubstituted olefin. It doesn't even contain a nitrogen! Please change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.30.129.32 (talk) 20:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- thanks for the notice, someone recently made an incorrect image switch but the image has been switched back V8rik (talk) 20:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
"It may be regarded as an ammonia (NH3) molecule in which two hydrogen atoms have been replaced by a group" is not true. In ammonia, nitrogen has a sp3 hibridation. In imines, nitrogen has a sp2 hibridation. The structure of the nitrogen orbitals and, consequently, their space distribution, is not the same in both compounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.111.238.2 (talk) 07:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Figure for synthesis
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Imine-synthesis.svg/400px-Imine-synthesis.svg.png)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hbf878 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]@Smokefoot: I propose to merge Aldimine into Imine. The aldimine article is a stub, and has seen little to no significant editing since 2011. Aldimines are simply a subset of imines, and the ketimine article already redirects to this article. Very little from the aldimine article isn't already covered in the imine article, so this would almost be a straight redirect. I've added the appropriate templates on both pages concerned.
Disclaimer: I am new to wiki editing, so sincere apologies if I'm flaunting any conventions or treading on any toes.RRBinwood (talk) 23:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Isomerism
[edit]It turns out that aldimine comes in trans- and cis-forms, for instance when the substituents form intramolecular hydrogen bonds. Who can add some sane information about this?
Thanks in advance, Simon de Danser (talk) 10:57, 29 November 2020 (UTC)